Thats pretty disturbing.
I cant imagine one of my teachers coming up to me during school and asking me to fuck them.
Like how does that even happen.
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;47415342]If this were a man and some girls you lot would be crying for his head on a stick.[/QUOTE]
Double standards are double standards, teenage girls having sex with older men is somehow less understandable as teenage boys having sex with older women because obviously the girls aren't doing it because they feel attracted to the older man....right?
I like how people are calling this rape. It's about as far from rape as it could be sexually speaking. The teenagers willingly consented to this. At most, only by the strictest legal definition could this ever be considered rape, since some of them could have been under the age of 18.
Still doesn't make the idiots talking about banging her less stupid.
[QUOTE=ImperialGuard;47415895]By all accounts they did so willingly. Still wrong, but she's not a rapist.[/QUOTE]
Rape criteria
1) are they under the age of consent
Yes, its rape
No, proceed to 2
2) is the person in a position of leadership over the victims
Yes, its rape
No, its creepy but legal
Doesn't really matter if they were willing though, if the prosecution can show she had sex with any of them before they were 16 it would be a rape case, seems like she pled guilty and that probably meant that its to a lesser crime instead
[QUOTE=Sableye;47416346]Double standards are double standards, teenage girls having sex with older men is somehow less understandable as teenage boys having sex with older women because obviously the girls aren't doing it because they feel attracted to the older man....right?[/QUOTE]
I would say that attitude has changed.
[QUOTE=ossumsauce;47416059]Colonial Forge?
Holy shit.
That's literally just down the road from me. My sister went there. *I* almost went there. I have friends who went there.
Damn, never thought i'd be the one to say "yeah that's right near me" on a SH post.[/QUOTE]
I know the feeling all too well. An incident similar to this (teacher/student relationship) actually happened at my highschool, but with the genders switched.
A music teacher was found to have had relations with a student. I actually was a part of his class and knew him quite well. The affair (he was in his late thirties, the student between 14-16 if I remember correctly) was discovered not even a month after I had graduated (June of last year), and apparently took place over a fairly lengthy period of time.
He obviously lost his job and was arrested, and there was much public outcry about the case. He got out on bond (and on the condition that he have no contact with the victim or their family), but was facing up to 50 years in prison for 10 counts of statutory rape if he was found guilty. The last that I had heard about him until recently was his court hearing in the fall. I had forgotten the incident for awhile, only to try and find how the trial was proceeding less than a week ago and discover his obituary.
Very sad. He had recently become a father, too. Why he would ever do such a thing continues to puzzle me.
However, I do know for certain that bias for one gender or the other in cases such as this needs to stop.
[QUOTE=Sableye;47416358]Rape criteria
1) are they under the age of consent
Yes, its rape
No, proceed to 2
2) is the person in a position of leadership over the victims
Yes, its rape
No, its creepy but legal
Doesn't really matter if they were willing though, if the prosecution can show she had sex with any of them before they were 16 it would be a rape case, seems like she pled guilty and that probably meant that its to a lesser crime instead[/QUOTE]
Legally it's rape, but as several people in this thread have said, they were invited not coerced. She may have been their teacher but had she threatened with a grade, which seems not to have happened, then she didn't use a position of power to "coerce" the students.
They were 16+ and knew what they were doing because even the stupidest of high schoolers know how sex works, also stated several times.
Legally? Yes, that counts but all the "thats disgusting!" and other upturned nose, high-horse comments are opinions about something you personally find distasteful. It was wrong legally but it wasn't some abomination where she held them down and threatened to fail them if they didnt feed the clam
[editline]29th March 2015[/editline]
redundancy levels got too high, so apologies for readers
Remember, guys: Kiddy fiddling is okay if you're an attractive female teacher!
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;47415342]If this were a man and some girls you lot would be crying for his head on a stick.[/QUOTE]
no I wouldn't
implying women are any different than men when it comes to sex is dumb
I'd do her and honestly if you were a 18 year old horny boy you would too
[QUOTE=Swiket;47416072]You guys keep talking about "doing it," but do what? We're not all mind readers here, guys.[/QUOTE]
Help her file her taxes if you know what i mean? *bow chika wow woooooooow*
No but really, taxes how do they fuckin' work.
Feel sorry for the husband. Probably an emotional wreck by now.
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;47415342]If this were a man and some girls you lot would be crying for his head on a stick.[/QUOTE]
if the man was attractive and had a big dick i'd do it.
It's ridiculous to me how so many people in here can just sit here and say "they're old enough to know what sex is so obviously they know what they were doing"
if you've ever actually been to a high school you should know that a majority of students are ignorant, uninformed, immature, impressionable, and raging with hormones to the point where they'd probably do anything to see what sex is like if they've never done it before. Not to mention the fact that most sexual education programs in high schools are abstinence based and disregard anything other than basic facts about how each sex organ works.
no I'm not saying teenagers are all incredibly stupid or uninformed, but this is not the first time something like this has happened and it's pretty terrible to act like the teacher was less in the wrong because the students know what sex is. if you've never actually participated in sex chances are you don't fully understand the experience and or anything that comes with it regardless of how much porn you've seen.
also the assumption that they were all or mostly 18 is pretty shit too. Most high schools are within the range of 14-18 with 18 being a larger minority, even in the graduating class. it's ridiculous to assume they were all 18 based on the fact it was a high school, because chances are they weren't, and its still pretty bad to try and justify sex with someone 10+ years your senior. teachers aren't supposed to be your sexual partners.
[QUOTE=Richoxen;47415428]"Real Repercussions" What the fuck does that even mean. They're not 10 year olds they're high schoolers. They fucking knew what they were doing. This shit wouldn't even have been illegal in some western countries.[/QUOTE]
In a lot of western countries it's illegal for a teacher to have sexual relations with one of their pupils even if the student is 18+
I am more concerned that she was cheating on her husband with multiple students. Weird.
[QUOTE=MuffinZerg;47417067]I am more concerned that she was cheating on her husband with multiple students. Weird.[/QUOTE]
Rottening West, yes comrade?
[QUOTE=Sableye;47416358]Rape criteria
1) are they under the age of consent
Yes, its rape
No, proceed to 2
2) is the person in a position of leadership over the victims
Yes, its rape
No, its creepy but legal
Doesn't really matter if they were willing though, if the prosecution can show she had sex with any of them before they were 16 it would be a rape case, seems like she pled guilty and that probably meant that its to a lesser crime instead[/QUOTE]
Yeah but statutory rape laws are generally completely arbitrary bullshit. It sets a hard limit on something that massively varies. If they were six years old and consented then yeah I'd understand but they're simply not. They're practically adults, and before you say "hormones" and such, the exact same thing can be said about people out of highschool, but far less people care about college students boinking adults.
[QUOTE=Egevened;47416879]I'd do her and honestly if you were a 18 year old horny boy you would too[/QUOTE]
which is exactly why teachers shouldn't be fucking their students, cos they're in a position of power over them and 16-18 year olds are the kind of morons who would bone a creepy rapey type who's obviously just using her job to get her hands on convenient sex toys. they're hormonal and inexperienced and as the responsible adult, it's your job to turn them down until they get a few years older and smarter and they realize they were making a mistake. "universally would not say no" is not a defense, it's taking advantage of someone.
If they were one or two years older, not only would it not make the news, but it'd also probably be turned into a fanfic.
I think while the teacher should be ashamed of herself, the "victims" knew exactly what they were doing, and I doubt they're going to be traumatized over it or anything.
[QUOTE=Egon Spengler;47415320]Huh, didn't take long this time for some of Facepunch's worst to come out[/QUOTE]
a guy admitting he'd fuck a teacher of legal age based on a photograph is really Facepunch's worst? Come on now
[I]clearly[/I] you don't know how to access the OIFY.
Can't say I'd do her. She just doesn't look attractive to me. Yes, I know mugshots aren't usually attractive, but she's not really a looker. That's also not mentioning her issues with self esteem, saying that doing all this made her feel "attractive and wanted." That gives me the vibe that she's a big attention whore, and I don't like those types of women.
But yeah, shit's wrong either way you look at it, whether it's in high school or college. And no, the "horny and 16-18" excuse doesn't really work for the students either, because chances are, there are also women in their school around their ages who are just as horny and desperate for sex as they are.
Only way I could see them doing this is if they maybe thought their grades would be better from this teacher, but then that brings up the idea of being graded on your sexual performance instead of your classwork.
I mean, just imagine getting a D in her class.
I think the age isn't as important as the fact the she was their teacher
facepunch is gay
[QUOTE=ImperialGuard;47417211]Yeah but statutory rape laws are generally completely arbitrary bullshit. It sets a hard limit on something that massively varies. If they were six years old and consented then yeah I'd understand but they're simply not. They're practically adults, and before you say "hormones" and such, the exact same thing can be said about people out of highschool, but far less people care about college students boinking adults.[/QUOTE]
Mmmm yes "position of power" in a student/ teacher relationship massively varies. Every other day I'm the teacher, and the next they're the teacher. It's impossible to follow!
Oh. Hang on a second, no it doesn't.
Statutory rape laws exist to stop people in a position of power from using said power as a coercive force to get sex. Should any of these students have said "no sex please", do you really think a teacher who was using her students as sex toys to feel "attractive and wanted" would have taken that lightly? She was just shot down by a fucking 16 year old! How dare that little shit not have sex with her! Well he's never getting anything higher than a C again!
Vice-versa, the students who did have sex with her may not have a positive bias from her, receiving top marks for shit work, etc. as long as they keep the sex up.
Statutory rape laws are not "bullshit", they are a protective mechanism we generally need to stop shit like this impacting the lives of others and those involved. (For the record, if you're caught fucking your university tutor, it wont make the news, but the tutor will usually get reprimanded for it because it's a massive conflict of interest)
Situations like this always make me wonder how she can show up the next morning and teach as normal
"yeah we banged now lets learn the quadratic formula"
[QUOTE=Egevened;47416879]no I wouldn't
implying women are any different than men when it comes to sex is dumb
I'd do her and honestly if you were a 18 year old horny boy you would too[/QUOTE]
if they were 18 there would be no legal repercussion in the first place, genius
Maybe I'm wrong but it could be that the people saying they want to bang her doesn't know any better themselves. Not everyone on facepunch is past adolescence.
[QUOTE=CapsAdmin;47418028]Maybe I'm wrong but it could be that the people saying they want to bang her doesn't know any better themselves. Not everyone on facepunch is past adolescence.[/QUOTE]
It is no secret that facepunch has many sick dudes
[QUOTE=Hat-Wearing Man;47418047]It is no secret that facepunch has many sick dudes[/QUOTE]
My point is that in real life when teenagers say or do something stupid we tell them off and hope they learn but we usually don't label them "sick dudes". A teenager saying something stupid is usually a lot less concerning than if and adult would.
[QUOTE=CapsAdmin;47418177]My point is that in real life when teenagers say or do something stupid we tell them off and hope they learn but we usually don't label them "sick dudes". Teenagers saying stupid things is a lot less serious than adults saying stupid things.[/QUOTE]
i believe hatman was suggesting that these posters are actually adults
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