• YIFY/ YTS shuts down forever - the end of a piracy icon: Popular torrent release group YIFY and its
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[QUOTE=Melnek;49020275]yify was the best for people who didn't have 90 inch computer screens with ten thousand dollars worth of audio equipment nobody wants to download 50gb for just one fucking movie that has pretty much the same exact quality as a 1.1gb one with the only difference being really irrelevant and barely noticeable bitrate changes and slightly compressed audio[/QUOTE] Even the most commonly used Scene size for 720p encodes (4.37GB, intended to fit on a blank DVD) is better than YIFY. Hell, a quality 480p encode, which runs about 2.5-3GB, offers better quality in both audio and video than YIFY ever did. Video quality can be improved through the use of an upscaler (eg MadVR). [QUOTE=latin_geek;49020795]Good. It's fucking inexcusable to lower your bitrate halfway through a file [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/M2wpJlC.png[/IMG] Because the nature of P2P meant the existence of (widely-available, centralized, well-known) YIFY rips meant that better rips were less seeded and therefore less available. I hope that now that tech in general has advanced we can settle for at least 5-10 GB rips in whatever solution becomes popular now.[/QUOTE] I doubt it. To the mainstream there is still a demand for low-quality and low-filesize encodes, so someone will probably step in and try to fill his shoes. [editline]31st October 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Over-Run;49021435]Link? I couldn't find it on google[/QUOTE] SPARKS are a release group, not a site.
you know how when something in the scene gets shutdown everyone's like oh it'll be replaced blah blah blah muh hydra I don't really find that to be the case, when something goes down it's a big fucking deal and a big pain in the ass
I don't understand how people didn't notice YIFY's shit audio quality. It was [I]wretched[/I]. The dynamic range was shit and it was incredibly overcompressed, so everything seemed muffled and squashed together and they would change the bitrathe throughout the film. The video quality wasn't much better, but it was always the distractingly bad audio quality that pulled me out of the movie. There are much better rips in the same size range- YIFY's problem was how they encoded and the fact they tried to cram 1080p into small filesizes.
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;49022410]it's pretty dumb to call other people babies for being more interested in something than you are. clearly when you watch a movie you're just putting any old shit on because you're bored. not everyone is like you, and some people are extremely tentative and engaged when they're watching something. it's also aside from the point anyway. YIFY rips could have been significantly better without being any bigger in file size.[/QUOTE] you can prefer to watch higher quality rips and not lord yourself over people who choose otherwise for assorted reasons [editline]31st October 2015[/editline] what is good enough for some people is absolute garbage tier to some others and people just need to accept that
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;49022535]you can prefer to watch higher quality rips and not lord yourself over people who choose otherwise for assorted reasons [editline]31st October 2015[/editline] what is good enough for some people is absolute garbage tier to some others and people just need to accept that[/QUOTE] nobody in this thread has "lorded themselves over people" because they care less about quality. the only thing anyone said was that yify rips are shit. the rips themselves, not the people who watch them.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;49022535]you can prefer to watch higher quality rips and not lord yourself over people who choose otherwise for assorted reasons [editline]31st October 2015[/editline] what is good enough for some people is absolute garbage tier to some others and people just need to accept that[/QUOTE] Their is no way around it, YIFY rips are shit. I can accept that people want to watch other stuff, but people shouldn't be watching shit. They should find an 720 or 576 encode that respects the viewers eyes and ears. People who think that YIFY rips are acceptable are just ignorant to the other more acceptable options, while still staying in the filesize limitation.
wtf kinda linux distros are u guys talking about that have audio and 1080p
[QUOTE=DuCT;49022633]Their is no way around it, YIFY rips are shit. I can accept that people want to watch other stuff, [B]but people shouldn't be watching shit. They should find[/B] an 720 or 576 encode that respects the viewers eyes and ears. People who think that YIFY rips are acceptable are just ignorant to the other more acceptable options, while still staying in the filesize limitation.[/QUOTE] The thing that you are forgetting is accessibility. YIFY had a fantastic website which became even better when it switched to YTS. Some people just don't have the know how on navigating other websites that may or may not be malicious. I'm not going to sit here and argue about the quality, but accessibility does play a major role in YIFY success.
[QUOTE=DuCT;49022633]Their is no way around it, YIFY rips are shit. I can accept that people want to watch other stuff, but people shouldn't be watching shit. They should find an 720 or 576 encode that respects the viewers eyes and ears. People who think that YIFY rips are acceptable are just ignorant to the other more acceptable options, while still staying in the filesize limitation.[/QUOTE] OK, name me a group that is dedicated to providing the quality you mention here, and that also took the effort to make a very good user friendly web site where you can browse all there releases, with descriptions, user ratings, and all the fancy stuff Yify site had ? If you can't, then why are you even mentioning it ? Yify's quality may not be the greatest, but the service was damn amazing, so I've been told. Edit/ninja'd: damn it peepin, couldn't you wait, lol
[QUOTE=AntonioR;49022804]OK, name me a group that is dedicated to providing the quality you mention here, and that also took the effort to make a very good user friendly web site where you can browse all there releases, with descriptions, user ratings, and all the fancy stuff Yify site had ? If you can't, then why are you even mentioning it ? Yify's quality may not be the greatest, but the service was damn amazing, so I've been told. Edit/ninja'd: damn it peepin, couldn't you wait, lol[/QUOTE] I think part of his point is that it would be better for everyone if more people took a few minutes to learn where to go to get better quality rips. I'm not actually sure whether it's bannable or not to direct people to piracy related sites, but there are other places which are easy enough to navigate and have much better quality stuff.
I only deal with 20-30GB movie files :v: I don't like compression artifacts.
tbh yify had some okay rips, some bad ones, and some really bad ones. overall though they often had a lot of seeders and a low file size making them reasonable to the average torrenter who doesn't care much about quality.
You guys sure complain a lot over over mediocre shit, like their quality releases? They're fucking torrents, YIFY's torrents were fine, if you want to be able to utilize all your audio channels, how bout pay for the fucking movie?
[QUOTE=mr apple;49025723]You guys sure complain a lot over over mediocre shit, like their quality releases? They're fucking torrents, YIFY's torrents were fine, if you want to be able to utilize all your audio channels, how bout pay for the fucking movie?[/QUOTE] It's the same idea as .FLACs. Blowouts in file size for exponentially decreasing improvements in quality. For some reason some people cannot settle for less and can't understand that other people are more than happy to do just that.
[QUOTE=mr apple;49025723]You guys sure complain a lot over over mediocre shit, like their quality releases? They're fucking torrents, YIFY's torrents were fine, if you want to be able to utilize all your audio channels, how bout pay for the fucking movie?[/QUOTE] Personally I would love to support a lot of these, but I completely resent the idea that I cannot legally transfer my newly purchased movie to my media center in order to properly keep it in a organized library that I can always access.
[QUOTE=mr apple;49025723]You guys sure complain a lot over over mediocre shit, like their quality releases? They're fucking torrents, YIFY's torrents were fine, if you want to be able to utilize all your audio channels, how bout pay for the fucking movie?[/QUOTE] they were far from fine. if the audio quality is so bad that you have to choose between not hearing dialogue and waking up your whole fucking neighborhood when something loud happens, the quality really can't get much worse than that. not to mention the video quality was often not as good as if you were to just stream the movie on some shoddy youtube of piracy website in 720p. there was no reason for it to be that bad. as has been stated numerous times in this thread, they could have done a much better job without increasing the filesize. [editline]1st November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Lonestriper;49025985]It's the same idea as .FLACs. Blowouts in file size for exponentially decreasing improvements in quality. For some reason some people cannot settle for less and can't understand that other people are more than happy to do just that.[/QUOTE] that's not true about .FLAC. if a .FLAC is ripped directly from vinyl, even on a modest sound system the difference is enormous compared to a 320 KB/s mp3. I have a song in my library which I'd been listening to for years in MP3 form, when I got the discography of the artist in FLAC I found out there was a nylon string bass being used in the song that literally couldn't be heard in the mp3 version because the frequency was too low. that being said, it doesn't make any difference on poorly produced, heavily compressed music (basically everything from the 80s) for obvious reasons.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fuck, where will I get my movies from now?
[QUOTE=spectator1;49028058]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fuck, where will I get my movies from now?[/QUOTE] blockbuster
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;49027764]that's not true about .FLAC. if a .FLAC is ripped directly from vinyl, even on a modest sound system the difference is enormous compared to a 320 KB/s mp3. I have a song in my library which I'd been listening to for years in MP3 form, when I got the discography of the artist in FLAC I found out there was a nylon string bass being used in the song that literally couldn't be heard in the mp3 version because the frequency was too low. that being said, it doesn't make any difference on poorly produced, heavily compressed music (basically everything from the 80s) for obvious reasons.[/QUOTE] at 320 or VB0, the only real difference between a vinyl rip and MP3 is how they're mastered. I'm also a person who keeps Flac, but only because I prefer the format to MP3; not because I think I can hear above the average human. I suggest you try the A/B/C test NPR put out some time ago: [url]http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality[/url]
I watch movies on my tablet sometimes and its only 150ppi :class:
[QUOTE=Bruhmis;49027764]they were far from fine. if the audio quality is so bad that you have to choose between not hearing dialogue and waking up your whole fucking neighborhood when something loud happens, the quality really can't get much worse than that. not to mention the video quality was often not as good as if you were to just stream the movie on some shoddy youtube of piracy website in 720p. there was no reason for it to be that bad. as has been stated numerous times in this thread, they could have done a much better job without increasing the filesize. [/QUOTE] you should be ashamed for how much youve grossly over-exaggerated the quality of yify rips. what youve said is just blatantly and demonstrably wrong.
[QUOTE=Anti Christ;49029809]you should be ashamed for how much youve grossly over-exaggerated the quality of yify rips. what youve said is just blatantly and demonstrably wrong.[/QUOTE] You're right, it's much worse!
[QUOTE=Anti Christ;49029809]you should be ashamed for how much youve grossly over-exaggerated the quality of yify rips. what youve said is just blatantly and demonstrably wrong.[/QUOTE] I regret to inform you that you are objectively incorrect in your assessment.
[QUOTE=paul simon;49029828]You're right, it's much worse![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Banandana;49029848]I regret to inform you that you are objectively incorrect in your assessment.[/QUOTE] if neither of you can understand any of the audio in a yify rip, yall should get your hearing checked out, cause i can hear everything just fine. sure isnt perfect, but its perfectly legible.
I'm sure you can understand people talking on a telephone but that's not exactly enjoyable and this isn't 1995.
[QUOTE=Banandana;49029966]I'm sure you can understand people talking on a telephone but that's not exactly enjoyable and this isn't 1995.[/QUOTE] again, that is a blatantly and demonstrably wrong exaggeration. [editline]1st November 2015[/editline] i do agree though. isnt 1995. i wish i could tell century link, so that i could at the very least browse facepunch with avatars enabled.
[QUOTE=Anti Christ;49029972]again, that is a blatantly and demonstrably wrong exaggeration.[/QUOTE] My point is that we have the technical capacity to be able to consume that quality of content, so there's no reason why we shouldn't. Combine that with the fact that they bitstarve and transcode the quality until it's gone because it's easier to be lazy than to find a clean source...
[QUOTE=Banandana;49029989]My point is that we have the technical capacity to be able to consume that quality of content, so there's no reason why we shouldn't. Combine that with the fact that they bitstarve and transcode the quality until it's gone because it's easier to be lazy than to find a clean source...[/QUOTE] okay, so dont download yify rips then. thats the whole dang point. the low quality rips are for ppl with low quality internet, or ppl looking for a quick download. the existence of low quality rips doesnt prohibit you from consuming higher quality content. how is this even a thing? why is it such a problem that someone makes a quick and lazy rip for people that want a smaller file size? literally nobody is forcing you to download it lol. it serves its purpose for the intended demographic -- and youre not in that demographic.
[QUOTE=Banandana;49029989]My point is that we have the technical capacity to be able to consume that quality of content, so there's no reason why we shouldn't. Combine that with the fact that they bitstarve and transcode the quality until it's gone because it's easier to be lazy than to find a clean source...[/QUOTE] Yes there is, there are many reasons why. Mostly because not everyone is an obsessive, whiny kid with the free time and storage space for hundreds of gigabytes of negligible differences. Most people actually do things with their time other than downloading then pretentiously discussing the excellent bit-rates of their illegal goods.
[QUOTE=HawkeyeTy;49030036]Yes there is, there are many reasons why. Mostly because not everyone is an obsessive, whiny kid with the free time and storage space for hundreds of gigabytes of negligible differences. Most people actually do things with their time other than downloading then pretentiously discussing the excellent bit-rates of their illegal goods.[/QUOTE] Would you feel better about it if I started throwing around bitrates and speedtest results so you feel more at ease?
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