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[QUOTE=Talishmar;49126581]I think it's more of the perception of having a future than actually having a future. Our local school shooters saw no future for themselves personally and Breivik saw no future for Europe other than war for example.[/QUOTE] So it's just a massive coincidence that huge amounts of violence are surrounding Islamism and Islamic doctrine at this time?

[QUOTE=Da Bomb76;49127009]So it's just a massive coincidence that huge amounts of violence are surrounding Islamism and Islamic doctrine at this time?[/QUOTE] There are violent Buddhists literally commiting genocide in asia. There are violent christians roaming around africa. If you have a country with a bad economy or social issues you will get violent angry people. If you have violent angry person they might use a religion to justify/support their cause. Just so happens that Iraqi and Syria are in a bad way at the moment and they also happen to be religious. Saudi arabia is scarily backwards, I would argue their "branch" of islam (wahhabism) is poisonous but I'm sure there are lots of wahhabi or salafi muslims who are peaceful and don't use it as an excuse to murder, rape and oppress. Bad person + religion = bad "religious" person By branding islam as a whole violent people risk alienating the majority who are peaceful. And alienation is a sure fire way to make people dislike you. Islam itself is much like Christianity teaching equality and charity.

Everyone wants to slam Islam for being violent, but no one ever speaks about the horrors Catholics have done throughout history.

[QUOTE=Code3Response;49127296]Everyone wants to slam Islam for being violent, but no one ever speaks about the horrors Catholics have done throughout history.[/QUOTE] No one does? You must be blind. Not to mention ISIS is now, catholic crimes are a long distant past.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;49127307]No one does? You must be blind. Not to mention ISIS is now, catholic crimes are a long distant past.[/QUOTE] To be fair, while christian terrorism isnt as well documented or as widespread, as islamic terrorism, there's still several examples to be seen - the Tripura conflict in India, the christian militia in the CAR, maronite militia in Lebanon, the Nagaland conflict also in India (the NSCN terrorist group) and so forth.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;49127307]No one does? You must be blind. Not to mention ISIS is now, catholic crimes are a long distant past.[/QUOTE] They aren't too distant. In america alone, there are more christian rightwing terrorist attacks then muslim attacks.

[QUOTE=gastyne;49127479]They aren't too distant. In america alone, there are more christian rightwing terrorist attacks then muslim attacks.[/QUOTE] I'd like a source on that.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;49128415]I'd like a source on that.[/QUOTE] There have been many reports like mosque bombings and abortion clinic bombings done by right wingers. [url]https://www.rt.com/usa/269506-american-terroist-attacks-study/[/url]

[QUOTE=gastyne;49128549]There have been many reports like mosque bombings and abortion clinic bombings done by right wingers. [URL]https://www.rt.com/usa/269506-american-terroist-attacks-study/[/URL][/QUOTE] That list is pretty ridiculous. They include things like the Charleston Church Shooting as a right-wing attack, but it obviously wasn't. It was one crazy racist dude. He didn't have any organizational backing. There's a massive difference between the things listed on the right, and those on the left. The so called "right-wing" terrorists are all individuals working on their own. They aren't part of a bigger movement. For all we know some of these might hold ideals associated with the left, but it doesn't really matter because their crimes aren't done in the name of an organization.

[QUOTE=gastyne;49128549]There have been many reports like mosque bombings and abortion clinic bombings done by right wingers. [url]https://www.rt.com/usa/269506-american-terroist-attacks-study/[/url][/QUOTE] Does right wing spell catholic in US?

[QUOTE=itisjuly;49127307]No one does? You must be blind. Not to mention ISIS is now, catholic crimes are a long distant past.[/QUOTE] Not sure if african nations are predominantly catholic or protestant but kony is Christian. As are many warlords and dodge regimes in africa. Only when a christian in africa does something wrong its a problem with africans rather than a problem with christians. #kony2015 do we still do that? no? oh

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;49131728]Not sure if african nations are predominantly catholic or protestant but kony is Christian. As are many warlords and dodge regimes in africa. Only when a christian in africa does something wrong its a problem with africans rather than a problem with christians. #kony2015 do we still do that? no? oh[/QUOTE] Kony is, at best, a Christian in the same vein as David Koresh. It's a cult with Kony as it's modern day prophet. He's probably not considered a Christian because the entire western world of Christianity would immediately reject him. It's a silly comparison.

[QUOTE=sgman91;49131760]Kony is, at best, a Christian in the same vein as David Koresh. It's a cult with Kony as it's modern day prophet. He's probably not considered a Christian because the entire western world of Christianity would immediately reject him. It's a silly comparison.[/QUOTE] Not only that, he did what he did not to spread a religious regime. And in the end Kony was a big thing at one point.

[QUOTE=sgman91;49131760]Kony is, at best, a Christian in the same vein as David Koresh. It's a cult with Kony as it's modern day prophet.[/quote] The IS is a self declared caliphate. That would make their leader the caliph, ie the successor to Muhammad in that he rules THE caliphate (there is only meant to be one in islam). [quote]He's probably not considered a Christian because the entire western world of Christianity would immediately reject him. It's a silly comparison.[/QUOTE] Can I claim that bagdaddy or whatever his name isn't a muslim because the vast majority reject him? The majority of ISIS' victims are infact muslims. He declares shia's + anyone who doesn't comply with his brand of islam, an apostate or heretic (as in he claims they aren't muslims) to justify their persecution. He's a nut using religion to justify he psychopathic and megalomaniac tendencies, just like kony. Also you picked 1 person I posted. Theres plenty of other christian militas and regimes who do awful things in africa.

Kony used religion?

[QUOTE=itisjuly;49132175]Kony used religion?[/QUOTE] As leader of the "lord's resistance army" trying to establish a state using the ten commandments for law. There is a distinct possibility.