Another questionable thing about the trailer: people with Nintendo systems having active social lives
[QUOTE=Skyward;51233543]Skyrim's a complete oddity. I knew so many people in college who only played the annual CoD and *sport* game, who for some reason explode in excitement every time Skyrim gets mentioned. It really appealed far outside it's intended audience for some reason, and those people LOVE it.[/QUOTE]
Skyrim isn't an oddity in the slightest. It's a very, very lucky game. When Skyrim came out the zeitgeist around The Lord of the Rings was still going, the Hobbit was announced by that time and came out a year later, and Game of Thrones started its first series earlier in the year.
It was inevitable that a game with similar genre, themes, or aesthetic would blow up, and Skyrim was already the biggest fantasy game coming at the time. Bethesda fans were into it, general RPG fans were in to it, and people newly discovering fantasy were in to it.
Now why it's still so incredibly popular after half a decade, that's just because casual players tend to take a lot longer with games than people like us. We'll put more hours into them but a casual player will play with them for an hour or so every few days for months, and Skyrim is fucking huge.
[QUOTE=WaffleCopter;51233669]I'm so on board with this Nintendo Switch, want to preorder! But I wonder how and which games can be played mobile or sitting on a couch, or how much storage space there is etc. But the flexibility of it defiantly has my attention![/QUOTE]
Please do not preorder games or gaming hardware, no matter how defiant it seems.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;51233771]Please do not preorder games or gaming hardware, no matter how defiant it seems.[/QUOTE]
Hmm, I guess it's okay to be cautious but I've thoroughly enjoyed Nintendo related products, would go to a friends how to play their Wii, then I got a WIIU and absolutely loved it. I even went through like 3 3DS each their own generations. I really do have high hopes based on my past experiences. One of the biggest potential sell points for me is the ability to play potential Monster Hunter games that might appear on the system, I'm insanely in love with MH, I'd sink thousands of hours into it. I actually bought the New 3DS just for Monster Hunter. :v:
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;51233743]Except the Wii U was a console that launched at something like $450 here, not far at all from the $500 an Xbone or PS4 costs. The Wii was significantly cheaper than its 'competitors'.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but you live in the land of monstrous animals and obscene prices. In America it released for $300 and came out a year before the other consoles. It was cheaper and it had a head start, and Nintendo fucked it be not releasing any killer apps in the first year. The biggest exclusives it had at launch were New Super Mario Bros. U (a game barely different to any of the other NSMB games), ZombiU, and Nintendo Land. Other than that it only had ports of 360 games.
The Wii U is a fine console, it was Nintendo who caused it to be such an absolute failure.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;51233758]When Skyrim came out the zeitgeist around The Lord of the Rings was still goin[/QUOTE]
What kind of parallel universe are you from?
[QUOTE=Skyward;51233543]Skyrim's a complete oddity. I knew so many people in college who only played the annual CoD and *sport* game, who for some reason explode in excitement every time Skyrim gets mentioned. It really appealed far outside it's intended audience for some reason, and those people LOVE it.[/QUOTE]
Given how much they spent on marketing, it looks to me that they marketed to exactly the audience they intended to market to.
Some call it luck, but I feel like their marketing knows exactly what they're doing.
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So take this with an atom sized grain of salt but these apparently are the Switch's specs. They apparently came from nintendo's developer website
[URL="http://pastebin.com/UD1Vx9rf"]http://pastebin.com/UD1Vx9rf[/URL]
[QUOTE]CPU:
Four ARM Cortex-A57 cores, maximum 2 GHz
L2 cache, 2 MB
64-bit ARMv8
Crypto extension enabled
GPU:
NVIDIA second-generation Maxwell architecture
256 CUDA cores, maximum 1 GHz
1024 FLOPS/cycle
Texture: 16 pixels/cycle
Fill: 14.4 pixels/cycle
Main memory:
Capacity of 4 GB
Bandwidth: 25.6 GB/s
VRAM: shared
System Memory:
Capacity: 32 GB, Maximum transfer rate: 400 MB/s
USB
USB 2.0 and 3.0
Video Output
60 fps, at a maximum of 1920×1080 pixels
Or 30 fps at 3840×2160 pixels
The screen:
6.2" IPS LCD, 1280×720 pixels
Capacitance method, 10-point multi-touch[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Stents*;51233831]What kind of parallel universe are you from?[/QUOTE]
Well if you'd read the next two fucking words in my post you'd see that The Hobbit was coming out soon. Though I shouldn't be harsh, you apparently come from a universe where literacy isn't common.
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[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;51233758]Now why it's still so incredibly popular after half a decade, that's just because casual players tend to take a lot longer with games than people like us. We'll put more hours into them but a casual player will play with them for an hour or so every few days for months, and Skyrim is fucking huge.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget that because of its popularity it also had an enormous mod scene, even some of my friends that usually only play a game at basic face value were pretty into trying out mods and asked for help on occasion getting the nexus ones to work. With so many mods, you could come back to a game a year later and try it out with a huge new set of content (not to mention that full conversion that came out a little while ago). I'm honestly curious if the NX will support modding
[QUOTE=1/4 Life;51233413]Because that's worked so well for them.[/QUOTE]
pretty much yeah
[img]https://puu.sh/rPxEv/a9b54f63fc.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51233868]That's probably old, they explicitly stated it was going to use Pascal cores, also NVIDIA uses their custom Denver cores instead of reference A57[/QUOTE]
32GB memory seems ridiculously low for a modern console too. Unless it doesn't need huge installs and the games aren't that big?
[QUOTE=Rika-chan;51233440]This guy is literally always wrong
He said the 3ds would fail and be the end of Nintendo[/QUOTE]
well the 3ds did have a relatively rocky start.
It started picking up a lot of steam when they started making good games for it rather than n64 remakes.
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;51233902]32GB memory seems ridiculously low for a modern console too. Unless it doesn't need huge installs and the games aren't that big?[/QUOTE]
Considering it uses cartridges I don't see why'd you need much internal space
[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;51233902]32GB memory seems ridiculously low for a modern console too. Unless it doesn't need huge installs and the games aren't that big?[/QUOTE]
IIRC, they're using large-storage sd-style cartridges.
I just want to go back to the good old days of popping in a game and getting straight to playing it.
[QUOTE=Hillo;51233885]pretty much yeah
[img]https://puu.sh/rPxEv/a9b54f63fc.png[/img][/QUOTE]
I think they're probably referencing the fact that the wii u sold abysmally, and worse than that, console sales typically lose money so even if it had sold well unless they were selling lots of games by ratio it would still lose money. We don't need to guess either, we know for a fact that nintendo has been posting massive losses lately, most recently a quarter of a billion dollars in a single quarter. So no, their comment was valid no matter how much you liked what nintendo was putting out - it was NOT working for them financially.
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;51233615]I hate to use the word but the portability feels like a gimmick. Anyone seriously interested in mobile gaming with Nintendo games has a 3DS and u[B]nless they decide to release a pokemon game[/B] no one's going to buy it solely for its handheld capabilities. As a standalone console it's now overpriced and underpowered because of the portable features. So it does both in a mediocre way.
The portability is just really bizarre considering how Nintendo already has the handheld market tied up. I know this is in a different hardware class but I'm not so sure there's a big market for playing games like Skyrim or other non mobile oriented games on the go.[/QUOTE]
I thought I read or heard somewhere that they plan on doing this.
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51233929]Why should it need installs at all? ROM Cartridges have instant memory I/O and modern flash storage can get over 128GB for very cheap, it also supports SD Cards, which also, are very cheap[/QUOTE]
Ooops, I forgot about the cartridges shown in the video, that negates installs. SD card support sounds good too, and with SanDisk coming out with a 1TB SD card, downloading a ton of games instead of using carts shouldn't be an issue.
[QUOTE=Hillo;51233923]Considering it uses cartridges I don't see why'd you need much internal space[/QUOTE]
Because having digital copies is a lot more convenient for many (most?) people
i'm just happy we're finally gonna get a big-screen monster hunter game again
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;51233865]Well if you'd read the next two fucking words in my post you'd see that The Hobbit was coming out soon. Though I shouldn't be harsh, you apparently come from a universe where literacy isn't common.[/QUOTE]
Holy shit, calm the fuck down.
My point was that no one cared too much about the Hobbit films, even before they came out. I don't really think that any LoTR films (or any film/tv in general) was what made Skyrim successful. The elder scrolls was already a well known series with a large fan base. Saying Skyrim was only successful because of the fantasy films is like saying Minecraft was only successful because of Legos.
Combining portables and home into one console is a smart move for Nintendo as they've seen massive success with the portable consoles. Consider me a day 1 adopter, can't wait for it!
[QUOTE=Trogdon;51234074]Combining portables and home into one console is a smart move for Nintendo as they've seen massive success with the portable consoles. Consider me a day 1 adopter, can't wait for it![/QUOTE]
This isn't a portable, though. There is no way that thing would ever be usable as a portable device. With my first look at the thing I see only problems.
Nintendo made a console based on those crappy little snap-on devices you can buy to attach to a tablet. It's like they built something designed to fail. Not necessarily by sales, but structurally. Structurally it's built to fail.
Why are kickstands always so thin?
[QUOTE=Grimhound;51234102]This isn't a portable, though. There is no way that thing would ever be usable as a portable device. With my first look at the thing I see only problems.
Nintendo made a console based on those crappy little snap-on devices you can buy to attach to a tablet. It's like they built something designed to fail. Not necessarily by sales, but structurally. Structurally it's built to fail.[/QUOTE]
If it's not a portable device why is it being advertised as such? You know theyre mostly going to advertise it's portable nature in Japan where they eat that shit up.
They said it would revolutionize console and handheld gaming, and i believe them for once.
Play Skyrim on the go for a whole 2 hours! :D
I wonder if they'll make older games on cartridges so you could play wii/u games on it
[QUOTE=Glaber;51233985]I thought I read or heard somewhere that they plan on doing this.[/QUOTE]
Rather than another game in the traditional series maybe a sequel to Colosseum and XD would be great, out of the ordinary and a pokemon game for everyone to eat up.
[QUOTE=Stents*;51234054]Holy shit, calm the fuck down.
My point was that no one cared too much about the Hobbit films, even before they came out. I don't really think that any LoTR films (or any film/tv in general) was what made Skyrim successful. The elder scrolls was already a well known series with a large fan base. Saying Skyrim was only successful because of the fantasy films is like saying Minecraft was only successful because of Legos.[/QUOTE]
I never said it was only successful because of the Lord of the Rings, I said that the popularity of The Lord of the Rings and of Game of Thrones helped Skyrim get exposure from casual players who otherwise wouldn't have looked at it. Also, just because people around you weren't hyped for The Hobbit doesn't mean there wasn't stupid levels of hype for it. I wasn't impressed by the trailers and I couldn't escape people praising it before it was even out.
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