Verizon sends service termination warning to a FiOS user that used ~7 TB of data for several consecu - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;47646663]I'm still confused on this part. Where does it say that he got in trouble purely for data usage, and not say, hosting servers at home? Again, ISPs generally care FAR more about upstream bandwidth, because their systems are designed to handle far more downstream than up. Most people suck up data through streaming, file downloads and the like, and upload almost nothing. Someone hosting a server that is getting used heavily can cause serious disruptions to a network, even when someone using 5 times as much downstream bandwidth does not, purely because that's how ISPs build their systems. Are verizon being fucks about this? It's quite likely. They've gone from a great ISP to a really shitty one in a few years. Where's the distinct proof of that here though? I haven't seen any.[/QUOTE] The notice was purely for data usage. As for what that usage is with, he was being dodgy. But Verizon's only reason was data usage, which is shitty.

[QUOTE=lavacano;47646399]I dare each and every person in this thread to come up with a name for this kind of plan that isn't false advertising. You can't use "unlimited", because there is a limit, though it's floaty and incredibly rare to hit. You can't define a specific limit because the actual limit is not set in stone and depends too much on uncontrolled variables. yeah see you can't fucking do it, can you? just let them call it unlimited because in the perceptions of 99% of the population it is. pretty much [b]nobody[/b] hits 7TB of data a month except this guy and major businesses.[/QUOTE] Uhh, they could just call it high speed internet? Why do they need a buzzword. Or, if you mean, how would they communicate the general lack of a data cap; they could say "This plan's monthly data-limit varies by region, with a minimum being xTb a month. Contact sales for a data-limit quote for your area."

[QUOTE=lavacano;47646399]I dare each and every person in this thread to come up with a name for this kind of plan that isn't false advertising. You can't use "unlimited", because there is a limit, though it's floaty and incredibly rare to hit. You can't define a specific limit because the actual limit is not set in stone and depends too much on uncontrolled variables. yeah see you can't fucking do it, can you? just let them call it unlimited because in the perceptions of 99% of the population it is. pretty much [b]nobody[/b] hits 7TB of data a month except this guy and major businesses.[/QUOTE] [url]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/unlimited?r=75&src=ref&ch=dic[/url] [url]http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unlimited[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlimited[/url]

[QUOTE=lavacano;47646399]I dare each and every person in this thread to come up with a name for this kind of plan that isn't false advertising. You can't use "unlimited", because there is a limit, though it's floaty and incredibly rare to hit. You can't define a specific limit because the actual limit is not set in stone and depends too much on uncontrolled variables. yeah see you can't fucking do it, can you? just let them call it unlimited because in the perceptions of 99% of the population it is. pretty much [b]nobody[/b] hits 7TB of data a month except this guy and major businesses.[/QUOTE] imo if it's not unlimited it shouldn't be advertised as unlimited. I don't see why it would be so hard to define a specific limit. If 99% of people won't reach the limit then you can just define it somewhat arbitrarily. Like say it's limited to 1TB; it won't matter to the average Joe but it will let people like this guy know that the offer isn't suitable for what they're doing. And 7TB is really way too low to call the connection "unlimited", considering the download speed. As said in the article it amounts to about one day of downloading. I mean it's a 500 mbps connection, I don't think it's unreasonable for customers to think they're allowed to use it to transfer large amounts of data.

[QUOTE=lavacano;47646399]I dare each and every person in this thread to come up with a name for this kind of plan that isn't false advertising. You can't use "unlimited", because there is a limit, though it's floaty and incredibly rare to hit. You can't define a specific limit because the actual limit is not set in stone and depends too much on uncontrolled variables. yeah see you can't fucking do it, can you? just let them call it unlimited because in the perceptions of 99% of the population it is. pretty much [b]nobody[/b] hits 7TB of data a month except this guy and major businesses.[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.midcocomm.com/Services/Internet/[/url] TaDa. No claims of unlimited data, but no hard cap either. If an ISP in the Midwest can do it, I'm sure Verizon can.

"you have no data cap except when we say you do" -Verizon Holy fuck am i glad data caps are pretty much nonexistent in Finland, save for some shitty mobile internet plans. And goddamn those US internet prices are pure legalized robbery, 500mbps is somewhere around 50€/month here

[QUOTE=DudesonFan;47647614]"you have no data cap except when we say you do" -Verizon Holy fuck am i glad data caps are pretty much nonexistent in Finland, save for some shitty mobile internet plans. And goddamn those US internet prices are pure legalized robbery, 500mbps is somewhere around 50€/month here[/QUOTE] Damnit Europe, stop having affordable internet connections. Almost 100 times faster with no cap for the same price.

[QUOTE=Jsm;47634828]And they have every right to impose a vague "excessive" cap. People should read what they sign. Unlimited transfer doesn't exist.[/QUOTE] Yes, people should read their contracts and Verizon does have every right to exercise a cap. That doesn't mean they can advertise anything they want.

[QUOTE=helifreak;47647830]Damnit Europe, stop having affordable internet connections. Almost 100 times faster with no cap for the same price.[/QUOTE] Europe is small with each country having a ton of ISPs, most places having at least 2 options. Easy to upgrade infrastructure + healthy competition results in relatively cheap internet.

[QUOTE=Levelog;47646871]The notice was purely for data usage. As for what that usage is with, he was being dodgy. But Verizon's only reason was data usage, which is shitty.[/QUOTE] he never provided the original notice, just a paraphrased notice

[QUOTE=LordCrypto;47647997]he never provided the original notice, just a paraphrased notice[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/2216154~7875b12fa3f0cf526910bd4cdda68bc2/26566_804"]This[/URL] is just paraphrasing?

if my internet was really slow because some jackass was downloading and uploading absurd quantities of data constantly I'd want it to stop too

[QUOTE=Lolkork;47652501]I you actually need a full 500 mbps down connection then it wont take long until you hit 7tb.[/QUOTE] I can't see what legitimate use requires over 200GB of data [i]per day[/i] that isn't a business or running a server or piracy or anything else explicitly against the ToS, but I can definitely see how a 500mbps connection would be convenient even if you're not doing more than a few GB per day. Residential plans are designed around short-duration high-speed use, which is how normal people use the Internet. An ISP assumes that, like most people, you care about the download speed mostly for how it affects your download times and streaming services, not so it will enable you to download hundreds of gigabytes of data per day. Business plans are for when you have a need for constant use to run a server or provide a service and are priced accordingly.

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;47646663]I'm still confused on this part. Where does it say that he got in trouble purely for data usage, and not say, hosting servers at home?[/QUOTE] that wasn't my point too many people in this thread were caught up on whether "unlimited" was the right term or not, my point is there is no right term. and it's the Big ISPs' fault to begin with for even coming up with data caps.