[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;42297047]The concept of a data cap on anything but a phone is just foreign to me.[/QUOTE]
My ISP has a 250gb datacap and a AUP that limits what you can do on your connection, but the AUP isn't really enforced and they are so incredibly lenient.
Fuckers better not up internet prices anymore.
I don't want to have to miss food for a day again due to Sky's broadband + TV. :C
[QUOTE=markg06;42294554]Well shit, maybe when this is all done ISPs are going to stop charging moronic prices for connections with a data cap.[/QUOTE]
No, they'll charge you more money because it's "new technology."
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42295970]"near infinite" doesn't mean shit. how good is this technology compared to current technology?[/QUOTE]
exactly you cannot be "near infinite" with any real quantity
that term upsets me to no end
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42297243]it doesn't really provide any explanation of what this technology means. it uses unscientific terms like "near infinite" and "essentially...unlimited", which don't actually mean anything. it doesn't actually say how much more bandwidth it would provide or how much better it actually could perform.[/QUOTE]
Hmm, you're actually right - it's obivous it will do better, and probably much better but it's not specified by how much.
[QUOTE=SatansSin;42296890]I'd be happy for a cap above 300gbs.
Sitting at 60gigs for a cap right now.
Feels horrible. Can't webcam with people. Can't stay on some multiplayer games long.
Hell, I can't even update half of the games on my STEAM list;
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All the games that -are- updated, are relatively small in size.[/QUOTE]
My ISP doesn't meter steam downloads
shit is amazing
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;42296115]Scanning exoplanets sounds incredible.
It'd be cool if they could compress people into data and send them into space that way.[/QUOTE]
[I]I want what he's having.[/I]
Download cap is still a thing?
Near-infinite? How does that term make sense at all?
[QUOTE=SCopE5000;42296115]Scanning exoplanets sounds incredible.
It'd be cool if they could compress people into data and send them into space that way.[/QUOTE]
You could, that's the basic idea behind teleportation, though the problem with that is the ability to scan someone completely and without anything changing during the scanning and teleportation process. As it stands, we would need hyper advancement in data acquisition technologies, someone to break quantum mechanics, and the ability to store yoctobytes of information on regular storage drives. Using current technology would kill you to scan your particles (taking a couple million years to scan each particle and its speed (that's if it didn't change when you scanned it)) as well as needing a stack of hard disks a couple light years in length to store the data.... Then there's the whole thing about reconstructing the person on the other end.
I added two Wi-fi cards to my computer(1 being USB and other being PCI) I am using [URL="http://www.connectify.me/dispatch/"]Connectify Dispatch[/URL] to accomplish two connections, I use to have around 1.3Mb/s, connecting to my friend on the same street, I got around 7.8Mb/s combined, he has a better ISP than me that I cannot afford.
[QUOTE=Reviized;42298958]You could, that's the basic idea behind teleportation, though the problem with that is the ability to scan someone completely and without anything changing during the scanning and teleportation process. As it stands, we would need hyper advancement in data acquisition technologies, someone to break quantum mechanics, and the ability to store yoctobytes of information on regular storage drives. Using current technology would kill you to scan your particles (taking a couple million years to scan each particle and its speed (that's if it didn't change when you scanned it)) as well as needing a stack of hard disks a couple light years in length to store the data.... Then there's the whole thing about reconstructing the person on the other end.[/QUOTE]
My speculation on that is that even if you took stock of the position of every atom in your body, you would come out the other end as a braindead corpse. Why do I think this? Because I don't think its going to be possible to scan the position of every electron in the brain faster than they change their positions, making acquiring the "data" in the brain impossible.
[QUOTE=-TheWolf-;42298831]Near-infinite? How does that term make sense at all?[/QUOTE]
The number is so uncomprehendingly big, for all intensive purposes it is ~infinite~ or it is ~hypothetically~ infinite but do to the 'laws of nature' it is not.
Its just laymen speak.
[editline]25th September 2013[/editline]
Also this just comes out and the current Australian Feudal Government wants to crap fibre to the home...
I remember hearing about this technology a few years ago, I guess it's advanced a bit since then.
Probably be bogged down in the "too expensive to be worthwhile" for the next few years. If we're really lucky we'll see it commercially then.
Won't stop shitty ISPs wanting more money from charging to use a certain amount, which is retarded
If you cut the lights off in your house, does the power company stop providing capacity for you? No. Internet's the same way, so why charge more or cut a user off after a certain point, especially if it's only "2% of our users". What is the fucking point
[QUOTE=Adarrek;42298501]Download cap is still a thing?[/QUOTE]
This guy is part of the problem:
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[QUOTE=Some Fucking Moron posted:]These twisted laser beams are so high-fidelity that they actually open up new, unknown areas of science; the tech is so far ahead of demand that scientists aren’t actually sure what they can use it for.[/QUOTE]
Man I completely forgot that the original announcement on the 18th said they were totally bewildered by this, instead of listing a bunch of things it could be used to increase the efficiency of and immediate application in X-ray bursting, FEL design incorporating harmonic generation, unique approaches to laser seeding, and Angstrom-scale matter measuring devices. Looks like the chimpshit who wrote this read:
[QUOTE]Researchers who could take advantage of the special properties of OAM light don’t necessarily know it’s available or what it could do for them.[/QUOTE]
and didn't pick up on the fact that this is an [I]awareness problem[/I], not a "scientists are baffled" problem. Nobody's baffled, they're trying to make people aware that this [I]exists.[/I]
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42295970]"near infinite" doesn't mean shit. how good is this technology compared to current technology?[/QUOTE]
The words "infinite" do not appear in the [URL="https://www.slac.stanford.edu/pubs/slacpubs/15500/slac-pub-15712.pdf"]research paper cited[/URL] nor [URL="http://www6.slac.stanford.edu/news/2013-09-18-twisted-light.aspx"]its announcement[/URL]. The word "unlimited" shows up once in the paper describing the wavelength ranges of free electron lasers and how they work. Bandwidth never appears. There is absolutely no mention of networking, optical fiber, or anything else related to the use of this tech as providing anything to signal transmission in that way. The primary "big thing" of this paper was [I]unprecedented brightness[/I] of the vortices in question. But, you know, fuck mentioning an actual breakthrough, let's relate all science to the internet somehow!
What appears to have happened is that yonder chimpshit conflated this with [URL="http://www.sciencemag.org/content/340/6140/1545.full"]another paper[/URL] he "reported" on in June, which was about a four-mode vortex being used to increase bandwidth in specially-designed fiber lines. If you didn't have any idea how that worked and assumed more modes means more data and more spinning means more modes, then a nearly infinite amount of wavelengths and better shaping would result in ALL THE DATUMS. It doesn't work that way, of course. And while that paper suggested using vortexes when designing fiber multiplexing solutions, actually doing it requires laying new fiber, trying to get fiber transmission closer to their open-air transmission speeds (a continuous struggle), improving the crosstalk situation, etc.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;42296952]Read the article, it provides a very detailed scientific explanation of what this technology means. The author of this article is great.[/QUOTE]
I would be surprised if the author of this article can tie his own shoelaces.
[QUOTE]The advantage of using three dimensions is that you can essentially transmit an unlimited number of signals through a given amount of space.[/QUOTE]
Shannon's theorem establishes an upper bound on what can be transmitted through a noisy channel, [URL="http://www.sciencemag.org/content/340/6140/1545/F3.large.jpg"]these are noisy channels[/URL], [URL="http://www.sciencemag.org/content/340/6140/1545/F4.large.jpg"]they have limits.[/URL] You can't just jam an infinite number of modes in something that suffers destructive interference from mode coupling. This is like reading something about auto manufacturers making a new type of engine and assuming warp drives must be on the horizon.
[editline]24th September 2013[/editline]
Whatever happened to the science reporting where somebody actually read the fucking paper, and if they didn't understand it, called the research team? They love getting interviewed! Once upon a time, Joe Reportman actually spoke with a living breathing human who understood what the pretty colors and confusing math meant and then could write something understandable by laymen without completely bastardizing the actual story.
Everything wrong with this could have been sorted out in two phonecalls if INTERNET JOURNALISTS could be bothered to stop browsing facebook and furiously masturbating long enough to do their job.
[QUOTE]near infinite[/QUOTE]
So not infinite.
[editline]25th September 2013[/editline]
at all.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;42294655]We will have to wait for google fiber to do it then. I'm still patiently awaiting for fiber to get to my little Hicksville, Tennessee.
Other ISPs I'm pretty sure have an inside agreement to fuck people over.[/QUOTE]
Hicksville, Tennessee? Tennessee isn't a huge place. What if we know each other?
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