It's official: Health reform bill (HR 3590) passes House - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Cluckyx;20895488]I'm picking up hints of exageration and bullshit here. Are you honestly saying that he had to sit around with an unplastered unbroken arm for 3 weeks?[/QUOTE] Yes. I think you mean he was sitting around with an unplastered broken arm for 3 weeks, not unbroken.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;20895977]Medicare Prescription Drug Plan? Both Bush tax cuts? Those are enormously expensive and sweeping.[/QUOTE] The bush tax cuts delt with money (budget) and I have to look into the medicare thing. May I please have a link to where reconsiliation was used on the Medicare thing?

America should be proud.

[QUOTE=Lankist;20888960]You all do realize that it isn't done yet right.[/QUOTE] Yeah but this is like the election - months beforehand you could tell Obama had won. Unless there is some sort of major scandal healthcare reform is done.

[QUOTE=Glaber;20895061]Did you even watch what was going on yesterday? The republicans don't just serve the people who wanted this thing, they also serve the people who didn't want it and they sided with them, else they get voted out. Besides, if they did support this thing, would there really be a difference between the two parties?[/QUOTE] Representative democracy. It means that you don't vote for what your constituents want, you vote for what your conscience says is right.

[QUOTE=JDK721v2;20895503]Oh my. Socialized health care could not possibly have any flaws. Both health care systems have their advantages and flaws. It's not that hard to grasp.[/QUOTE] I didn't even mention anything about the health system. I simply called bullshit on it taking 3 weeks,

[QUOTE=Cluckyx;20899184]I didn't even mention anything about the health system. I simply called bullshit on it taking 3 weeks,[/QUOTE] They have longer wait times. A broken arm isn't a life threatening injury so it's not really surprising if he had to wait three weeks.

it was all democrats that voted for this, this whole reconciliation concept is bullshit

[QUOTE=JDK721v2;20899244]They have longer wait times. A broken arm isn't a life threatening injury so it's not really surprising if he had to wait three weeks.[/QUOTE] I live in England. I have a fucked shoulder and went through a period where I dislocated it 4 times in as many months. I have epilepsy and the dislocations were a result of seizures. In each case I was seen within 45 minutes. Dealt with within 2 hours (With all the nitrous I could huff in the mean time) and had an outpatients appointment within the week. Seriously, 3 weeks? There would be a fucking outrage. I don't know where all this[B] "YOU WILL WAIT A YEAR TO HAVE STITCHES"[/B] shit comes from. On your current system I would not be covered because the shoulder would be classed as a result of a currently uninsured presxistring conditions. THe Insurance companies would laugh in m y face. But that's my fault because obviously it's because God hates me because I probably had an abortion or something. :saddowns:

[QUOTE=TheChantzGuy;20899265]it was all democrats that voted for this, this whole reconciliation concept is bullshit[/QUOTE] Do you understand what reconciliation is? Hint: it doesn't mean reconciliation is between the Republicans and Democrats.

[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;20899368]Do you understand what reconciliation is? Hint: it doesn't mean reconciliation is between the Republicans and Democrats.[/QUOTE] Only requires small majority vote to pass

[QUOTE=JDK721v2;20899244]They have longer wait times. A broken arm isn't a life threatening injury so it's not really surprising if he had to wait three weeks.[/QUOTE] Three weeks can cause the bone to settle wrong. The story is bullshit.

[QUOTE=Cluckyx;20895488]I'm picking up hints of exageration and bullshit here. Are you honestly saying that he had to sit around with an unplastered unbroken arm for 3 weeks?[/QUOTE] Canadian hospitals use the Canadian Triage and Acuity Scale to determine when a patient needs to see a doctor. It looks more or less like this: 1. Life threatening injuries 2. Limb threatening injuries 3. Non-life or limb threatening injuries 4. Other You can download the forms that list pretty much every medical condition and where they rank [url=http://www.caep.ca/template.asp?id=B795164082374289BBD9C1C2BF4B8D32]here[/url]. Long story short? That guy was bullshitting. A broken arm is limb threatening and would be seen within a few hours. [editline]11:19PM[/editline] [QUOTE=JDK721v2;20899244]They have longer wait times. A broken arm isn't a life threatening injury so it's not really surprising if he had to wait three weeks.[/QUOTE] See above. You are incredibly wrong. This type of misinformation is absolutely unbelievable. Is this really how you Americans believe healthcare systems in the rest of the world work? I pity you guys.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;20910684]Canadian hospitals use the Canadian Triage and Acuity Scale to determine when a patient needs to see a doctor. It looks more or less like this: 1. Life threatening injuries 2. Limb threatening injuries 3. Non-life or limb threatening injuries 4. Other You can download the forms that list pretty much every medical condition and where they rank [url=http://www.caep.ca/template.asp?id=B795164082374289BBD9C1C2BF4B8D32]here[/url]. Long story short? That guy was bullshitting. A broken arm is limb threatening and would be seen within a few hours. [editline]11:19PM[/editline] See above. You are incredibly wrong. This type of misinformation is absolutely unbelievable. Is this really how you Americans believe healthcare systems in the rest of the world work? I pity you guys.[/QUOTE] Blame Faux News.

[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;20910733]Blame Faux News.[/QUOTE] It's an indoctrination that begins the day they are born and most certainly not the fault of a single news outlet.

I guess I've been indoctrinated well, since I would eventually like to move to the land of maple syrup, Tim Horton's, and free healthcare.

[QUOTE=PrismatexV8;20910776]I guess I've been indoctrinated well, since I would eventually like to move to the land of maple syrup, Tim Horton's, and free healthcare.[/QUOTE] And then when you become truly Canadian you can start to aspire to move to Sweden like us. By the way we don't get free dental care and in most provinces you have to pay for your own prescription drugs unless you have... get this: health insurance

[QUOTE=Zeke129;20911207]And then when you become truly Canadian you can start to aspire to move to Sweden like us.[/QUOTE] Coincidentally, I recently acquired dual Ireland-US citizenship, allowing me to live/work in any of the Schengen countries, with that possibility in mind.