Australia declares war on feral cats with plan to 'cull two million by 2020 - Polidicks

[QUOTE=27X;48261309]Cats are terrible but super territorial asshole birds that kills other birds by bullying them to death are great. k.[/QUOTE] Cats are not native to the country and magpies are k. [editline]23rd July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Megadave;48267846]Isn't Australia the place where you have to have your dogs voice boxes removed if they bark too much? or is it just certain communities?[/QUOTE] I have literally never heard of this before in my life [Editline]a[/editline] Its pretty funny seeing people who have no clue of how fragile our ecosystem is and how much of a threat feral species are that see the culling of feral, ecosystem destroying animals as a bad thing

[QUOTE=TacticalBacon;48263688]I can't help but feel this is going to go about as well as the attempts to curb the rabbit, fox and cane toad populations.[/QUOTE] The cane toad population cull is hilarious though. Cane toad golfing.

Hawaii has the same issue with cats. Along with ferrets.

[QUOTE=killerteacup;48263573]A) The australian magpie is a native protected species in Australia B) The American magpie is entirely different to the Australian magpie and is not our resident asshole territorial bird we have to worry about Get your facts right m8[/QUOTE] australian magpies are still marauding cunts. there are actual cases of magpies literally swooping down to peck people's eyes out, and succeeding.

[QUOTE=Aspen;48268271]The cane toad population cull is hilarious though. Cane toad golfing.[/QUOTE] I heard they make good tea.

[QUOTE=Killuah;48267836]I'm not disconnected, just in a different country and as a matter of fact most pet cats here in the bigger cities are either sterilized(female) or castrated(male)cats as many cities have mandatory castration/sterilizaton for wild cats.[/QUOTE] what makes you "disconnected" in this case is the fact that you can't make a distinction between "taking one life to save another" and taking one like to save an entire ecosystem and everything in it. this is coming from somebody who doesn't eat any animals because of the inherent hypocrisy I see in it. leaving the cats to roam when they have the power to cull them would be destructive and inhumane.

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;48268502]what makes you "disconnected" in this case is the fact that you can't make a distinction between "taking one life to save another" and taking one like to save an entire ecosystem and everything in it. this is coming from somebody who doesn't eat any animals because of the inherent hypocrisy I see in it. leaving the cats to roam when they have the power to cull them would be destructive and inhumane.[/QUOTE] The problem with that is if we start going by that logic, it turns into a really slippery slope. Pretty soon that logic will be used to move people off the land because their property lies within an animal protection area.

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;48268502]what makes you "disconnected" in this case is the fact that you can't make a distinction between "taking one life to save another" and taking one like to save an entire ecosystem and everything in it. this is coming from somebody who doesn't eat any animals because of the inherent hypocrisy I see in it. leaving the cats to roam when they have the power to cull them would be destructive and inhumane.[/QUOTE] I'm just saying that there are better solutions than outright killing and even TNR is just fighting the symptom, not the cause(which is pet owners)

[QUOTE=Killuah;48268598]I'm just saying that there are better solutions than outright killing and even TNR is just fighting the symptom, not the cause(which is pet owners)[/QUOTE] even if every pet owner in australia was rounded up and shipped to an island somewhere that still wouldn't do anything about the immediate danger that the ecosystem is in. there isn't really any better solution. it would cost literally billions of dollars to deal with the problem without killing any cats. [editline]22nd July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Megadave;48268536]The problem with that is if we start going by that logic, it turns into a really slippery slope. Pretty soon that logic will be used to move people off the land because their property lies within an animal protection area.[/QUOTE] that's really not a logical next step from culling cats. but if somebody having land in a specific place was somewhere running the risk of causing massive, irreversible damage to the ecosystem then who in their right mind would disagree with having them removed from that land

[QUOTE=Killuah;48268598]I'm just saying that there are better solutions than outright killing and even TNR is just fighting the symptom, not the cause(which is pet owners)[/QUOTE] At this stage, cat owners are a tiny part of the problem that is millions upon millions of feral cats.

[QUOTE=Killuah;48268598]I'm just saying that there are better solutions than outright killing and even TNR is just fighting the symptom, not the cause(which is pet owners)[/QUOTE] Do you mean sterilisation? How is spending boatloads of money to sterilise feral cats a better solution when it doesn't even stop them from ruining the ecosystem?

The only reason people are so appalled is because cats are a common pet, and it's creating an intense bias in them. Culling destructive invasive species is not only the norm, but an attempt to control damage to the ecosystem. The OP outlines just how horrendous feral cats are on Australia's ecosystem and its wild species. So I ask, should we just sterilize Asian Carp in America too?

[QUOTE=Araknid;48267929]Cats are not native to the country and magpies are k. [editline]23rd July 2015[/editline] I have literally never heard of this before in my life [Editline]a[/editline] Its pretty funny seeing people who have no clue of how fragile our ecosystem is and how much of a threat feral species are that see the culling of feral, ecosystem destroying animals as a bad thing[/QUOTE] Never said it was a bad thing, try rereading with your context cap on.

[QUOTE=27X;48272745]Never said it was a bad thing, try rereading with your context cap on.[/QUOTE] I wasn't saying that you were saying that. I was saying it not directly to you but referring to people who do see this as a bad thing, which is quite a decent amount. We were talking about this in my class today and the amount of people who were against this was mind numbing

[QUOTE=Megadave;48267522]You don't sound biased.[/QUOTE] And you don't understand how fragile our ecosystem is, introduced species have caused the extinction of native fauna in Australia and are threatening our endangered animals. So how can I be biased when birds and other animals are protected , native species when feral cats are an introduced species and are a pest?