• The 2016 New Hampshire Primary.
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[QUOTE=Shovel Mech;49706619]It amazes me how everyone hates Trump. It's a bandwagon.[/QUOTE] actually everyone who likes trump is a racist ain't it easy to just pull stuff out of your ass to discredit those you disagree with
[QUOTE=Shovel Mech;49706619]It amazes me how everyone hates Trump. It's a bandwagon. Trump is the best possible GOP candidate. He's challenging the establishment, he could never defeat the Democrats in an election, his policy outside of immigration is quite moderate, and his more radical policy would be blocked by congress even if he did become President. Democrats should love Trump.[/QUOTE] He's making a joke out of the elections he is only saying what he knows the crazies want to hear, he says crazy stuff to get more press and more attention, close to every policy he wants to enact as president wouldn't happen for one reason of another. We have enough jokes in congress we don't need any more stupid. Take it from someone from New York, we all hate him, hes bankrupted almost as many things as he has made popular and much of what he made decent was handed to him. Zero experience as a politician and sure if Trump was GOP candidate democrats would probably win in a landslide, but I would rather have a strong election than a joke of one. America is better off when our election system is working.
[QUOTE=Radio Yes;49706272]hahahaha Oh You're not joking You legitimately support Trump...[/QUOTE] I sure do. [QUOTE=fruxodaily;49706402]yeah nah, trump is a right wing populist wet dream (like yourself), he's not as radical as Cruz but fuck if he won the GOP would pop itself in the head, Sanders would defeat Trump pretty easily seeing as Trump's septic reputation would make people either choose sanders or stay at home or vote 3rd party [editline]10th February 2016[/editline] ++ polls showed that if it came down to a Trump v Sanders that Sanders is the most electable president and he would win by a great majority However we can both agree that a debate between the two would be very entertaining[/QUOTE] The polls don't mean anything if people don't vote, and most of Bernie's supporters are millennials who don't vote. I imagine the young voter turnout will be higher than it has been in the past but it won't be enough. Trump v Sanders debate would be hilarious, Trump destroys people who agree with him and steal his ideas. I can only imagine how great it would be if he went against a communist. Too bad Hillary is getting the nomination, but those debates should still be pretty good.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;49706676]actually everyone who likes trump is a racist ain't it easy to just pull stuff out of your ass to discredit those you disagree with[/QUOTE] Did you just stop reading my post after that line or..?
[QUOTE=gastyne;49706601]Hope he falls in a landslide.[/QUOTE] Why are you Bernie people so for violence against Trump? I remember when he said he could shoot someone in Manhattan and would gain support you guys said "I wish someone would shoot him", just recently he said he was in favor of Waterboarding and one of the first comments is "someone should waterboard him". You guys don't seem okay, I'm very much against everything Bernie and Hillary stand for but I don't hope someone or something kills them. [editline]9th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Shovel Mech;49707127]Did you just stop reading my post after that line or..?[/QUOTE] He's waiting for Bernie's free school before he learns how to read.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49707130]Why are you Bernie people so for violence against Trump? I remember when he said he could shoot someone in Manhattan and would gain support you guys said "I wish someone would shoot him", just recently he said he was in favor of Waterboarding and one of the first comments is "someone should waterboard him". You guys don't seem okay, I'm very much against everything Bernie and Hillary stand for but I don't hope someone or something kills them. [/QUOTE] I said it mostly as a joke, of course I don't want Trump to die. I just want him to get demolished in the elections. About the shooting point you made; how would you feel if Trump pulled out a gun and just gunned down a random civilian in broad daylight, or what about if it was a mexican or a scary muslim person? I never said anyone should shoot Trump. And about the waterboarding, Trump doesn't seem to acknowledge that waterboarding is incredibly damaging botch mentally and physically, so it would perhaps be an eyeopening experience for him to see what getting waterboarded really is like so he knows what he is advocating.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49707130]He's waiting for Bernie's free school before he learns how to read.[/QUOTE] Public school for children is socialist.
[QUOTE=gastyne;49707165]I said it mostly as a joke, of course I don't want Trump to die. I just want him to get demolished in the elections. About the shooting point you made; how would you feel if Trump pulled out a gun and just gunned down a random civilian in broad daylight, or what about if it was a mexican or a scary muslim person? I never said anyone should shoot Trump. And about the waterboarding, Trump doesn't seem to acknowledge that waterboarding is incredibly damaging botch mentally and physically, so it would perhaps be an eyeopening experience for him to see what getting waterboarded really is like so he knows what he is advocating.[/QUOTE] I never said you for the other two things, I meant you guys as in Bernie supporters. Trump never said he was going to or even implied that he wanted to. He was making a point about how loyal his supporters are. It was totally hypothetical. Of course that would be fucked up if he randomly shot someone, but if he shot a mexican or scary muslim person in self-defense I would totally support it. The shit ISIS is doing is much worse than waterboarding, they're killing innocent civilians in some of the most gruesome ways possible. I'm all for waterboarding, considering what the enemy is doing.
[QUOTE=Da Bomb76;49707167]Public school for children is socialist.[/QUOTE] Ya know who sent children to public school? Stalin. Hitler. Mao. Bernie Sanders. Vote Republican!
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49707130]Why are you Bernie people so for violence against Trump? I remember when he said he could shoot someone in Manhattan and would gain support you guys said "I wish someone would shoot him", just recently he said he was in favor of Waterboarding and one of the first comments is "someone should waterboard him". You guys don't seem okay, I'm very much against everything Bernie and Hillary stand for but I don't hope someone or something kills them. [editline]9th February 2016[/editline] He's waiting for Bernie's free school before he learns how to read.[/QUOTE] One is an example of supporters being stupid.,to which i challenge you to show me a canidate who doesnt have even one dumb supporter The other is the actual canidate saying dumb things
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49707130]He's waiting for Bernie's free school before he learns how to read.[/QUOTE] Why are you Trump supporters so afraid to stop skirting around the issues with cheap jabs like these
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49707170]I never said you for the other two things, I meant you guys as in Bernie supporters.[/QUOTE] Well why are you grouping all Bernie supporters together like that? That's like saying all Trump supporters are violent savages and racists, according to the videos of what his crowd does when a demonstrator shows up. The mob mentality springs up right away and it's like a group of angry hyenas. Obviously I am not saying that is how you are, I don't know you.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49707130] He's waiting for Bernie's free school before he learns how to read.[/QUOTE]Ooo personal attacks, gotta love em.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49707130]Why are you Bernie people so for violence against Trump? I remember when he said he could shoot someone in Manhattan and would gain support you guys said "I wish someone would shoot him", just recently he said he was in favor of Waterboarding and one of the first comments is "someone should waterboard him". You guys don't seem okay, I'm very much against everything Bernie and Hillary stand for but I don't hope someone or something kills them. [editline]9th February 2016[/editline] He's waiting for Bernie's free school before he learns how to read.[/QUOTE] i think anyone who advocates the killing of someone based on their beliefs is morally wrong, it doesn't matter who they support. their political affiliiation is irrelevant to their stance on prima facie murder.
[QUOTE=gastyne;49707191]Well why are you grouping all Bernie supporters together like that? That's like saying all Trump supporters are violent savages and racists, according to the videos of what his crowd does when a demonstrator shows up. The mob mentality springs up right away and it's like a group of angry hyenas. Obviously I am not saying that is how you are, I don't know you.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Zukriuchen;49706676]actually everyone who likes trump is a racist ain't it easy to just pull stuff out of your ass to discredit those you disagree with[/QUOTE] generalizations are always terrible. Personally I support trump because I prefer his Tax plan as well as economic plans as well.
[QUOTE=gastyne;49707191]Well why are you grouping all Bernie supporters together like that? That's like saying all Trump supporters are violent savages and racists, according to the videos of what his crowd does when a demonstrator shows up. The mob mentality springs up right away and it's like a group of angry hyenas. Obviously I am not saying that is how you are, I don't know you.[/QUOTE] I said I see a lot of you guys promoting violence against Trump, which you did.
Totally need the "tool" rating back.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49707222]I said I see a lot of you guys promoting violence against Trump, which you did.[/QUOTE] I see a lot of trump supporters actually do violence against minorities.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49707115]I sure do. The polls don't mean anything if people don't vote, and most of Bernie's supporters are millennials who don't vote. I imagine the young voter turnout will be higher than it has been in the past but it won't be enough. Trump v Sanders debate would be hilarious, Trump destroys people who agree with him and steal his ideas. I can only imagine how great it would be if he went against a [B]communist[/B]. Too bad Hillary is getting the nomination, but those debates should still be pretty good.[/QUOTE] :speechless:
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49707130]Why are you Bernie people so for violence against Trump? I remember when he said he could shoot someone in Manhattan and would gain support you guys said "I wish someone would shoot him", just recently he said he was in favor of Waterboarding and one of the first comments is "someone should waterboard him". You guys don't seem okay, I'm very much against everything Bernie and Hillary stand for but I don't hope someone or something kills them. [editline]9th February 2016[/editline] He's waiting for Bernie's free school before he learns how to read.[/QUOTE] "One Bernie Sanders supporter said this, so they must all think like that"
Let's all just agree that there are always gonna be idiots on anyone's side, and keep discussion to the candidates and their policies instead of what "we" did or "they" did.
What in sam hill... [img]http://i.imgur.com/b7ESezp.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Flicky;49707387]Let's all just agree that there are always gonna be idiots on anyone's side, and keep discussion to the candidates and their policies instead of what "we" did or "they" did.[/QUOTE] Let's talk about how Trump basically advocating for violence. He was asked about what he thinks about some people who went around beating up homeless mexicans and Trump said something along the lines of how they are just really enthusiastic supporters. With violence ideas comes violent people.
[QUOTE=ThePanther;49707411]What in sam hill... [img]http://i.imgur.com/b7ESezp.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Fox is getting bugs I think, earlier they reported that trump won the New Hampshire Primaries [url]http://www.politico.com/blogs/new-hampshire-primary-2016-live-updates/2016/02/new-hampshire-primary-2016-donald-trump-fox-news-winner-218999[/url]
The poll is still open for 3.20 hours isn't it? Nevermind, it said on politico.
[QUOTE=ThePanther;49707411]What in sam hill... [img]http://i.imgur.com/b7ESezp.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] That may be counted between caucus/primary delegates and [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate]superdelegates.[/url] I know that, unfortunately, Clinton has around 400 superdelegates while Sanders has almost no support from the Democratic party since he's been a pretty solid Independent until this race. Honestly, the superdelegate system needs to go. Soon.
[QUOTE=ThePanther;49707411]What in sam hill... [img]http://i.imgur.com/b7ESezp.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Lo and behold, my problem with the two big party system.
[B]Everyone needs to chill with superdelegates. [/B] Once a candidate with few super delegates starts winning quite a few states, the candidate with most of them will lose quite a few. As many of said superdelegates will jump ship and line up behind the other candidate. It happened in 08.
[QUOTE=Flicky;49707434]That may be counted between caucus/primary delegates and [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate]superdelegates.[/url] I know that, unfortunately, Clinton has around 400 superdelegates while Sanders has almost no support from the Democratic party since he's been a pretty solid Independent until this race. Honestly, the superdelegate system needs to go. Soon.[/QUOTE] This. It's undemocratic, and it's only used by the establishment as a way to game the system. When you're deciding who wins what based off fucking [i]coin tosses[/i], there's a serious problem that needs to be solved. I've said this before, and I'll say it again: that's a bad joke of a way to govern. That's like relying on Voodoo chicken rituals and blood sacrifices to make decisions. Not only is it stupid, it's easy to manipulate and to lie about (which is of course the biggest reason why they keep it around). Get rid of the superdelegate/delegate system, hell get rid of the electoral college while you're at it. This could and should be a simple matter of using the popular vote to determine who gets to run and who wins in the end.
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