Man beaten with iron rod for rising the israel flag in Sweden. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Bobie;45327876]are you arguing that culture defines some kind of separation between humans?[/QUOTE] Yes. Westerners can't live with people who genitally mutilate their children, arrange marriages, or stone people for adultery or atheism. And that's fine. That's why we have [I]different countries[/I]. That's how people can coexist peacefully.

[QUOTE=Bobie;45327876]and those cultures can co-exist peacefully. they do in this country; are you arguing that culture defines some kind of separation between humans?[/QUOTE] Culture A and Culture B live in neighboring countries. The culture A land is perfectly ok with cooking babies alive and it's seen as a tradition. Culture B however does not cook their babies and sees it as a barbaric thing. Culture A moves into culture B land, starts cooking babies, cries "stop repressing me and my traditions". 10/10 wont work. Cooking babies is a bit extreme but so is chopping up the vagina of your daughter.

[QUOTE=pkhzor;45328669]Culture A and Culture B live in neighboring countries. The culture A land is perfectly ok with cooking babies alive and it's seen as a tradition. Culture B however does not cook their babies and sees it as a barbaric thing. Culture A moves into culture B land, starts cooking babies, cries "stop repressing me and my traditions". 10/10 wont work. Cooking babies is a bit extreme but so is chopping up the vagina of your daughter.[/QUOTE] that's circular logic. culture defines a country and the country defines the culture? if country C had a far higher living standard, rate of wellbeing and happiness which B and A looked up to, and happened to annex country B and A, then it would be 1-200 years before they all assimilate into the same cultural state. humans are all born into the same mental condition, its the conditioning we experience that shape our belief of what 'culture' is. if the condition does not involve that barbaric culture, then the next generation will cease to believe it. though i don't necessarily believe in straw-countries so this argument doesn't work too well [QUOTE=Elecbullet;45328176]i just figured the Swedes wouldn't get offended is all; if they did it'd be [B][I]NATIONALISM[/I][/B][/QUOTE] lol [editline]8th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Eudoxia;45328437]Yes. Westerners can't live with people who genitally mutilate their children, arrange marriages, or stone people for adultery or atheism. And that's fine. That's why we have [I]different countries[/I]. That's how people can coexist peacefully.[/QUOTE] different countries causes people to coexist peacefully? what planet are you living on lol

[QUOTE=dilzinyomouth;45327072]Utoya was an isolated incident and a premeditated purposefully planned out, politically driven attack. Occam's razor dude. Given that african immigrants are over-represented in Sweden's crime statistics, and Malmo's recent history having a wave of anti-semitic incidents. I very very much doubt it was some neo-nazi attack[/QUOTE] doesn't change the fact that the near-unanimous response during the initial reporting was "bombs? oh it was probably muslims" do you know what occam's razor means? it means the answer that makes the least assumptions is usually (not always) the correct one. yet here you are assuming it's immigrants because you're a xenophobe instead of waiting for more information before passing judgment.

Hey, Europe is finally finding out one of the reason that the US has such high murder rates and other bad statistics. With high amounts of cultural variety you get issues. Welcome to the club.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;45328176]i just figured the Swedes wouldn't get offended is all; if they did it'd be [B][I]NATIONALISM[/I][/B][/QUOTE] I'm a nationalist, so what

Oh, well good to hear. Keep it up bruh

[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;45326464]Ahahah, being proud of your nation is frowned upon? Holy shit, what kind of pussy mentality is this. Only a matter of time before speaking in your native language is frowned upon, if this keeps up.[/QUOTE] A stupid fucking mentality a lot of Swedes have. I've been called racist by Swedes for telling them they should not be fucking ashamed of their country or flag. That is, until I told them I'm not Swedish, nor Nordic in any way.

[QUOTE=Hellsten;45325604]What kind of attitude is that? [I]Your statement means nothing[/I]? Stockholm is the largest city in Sweden and Scandinavia alone, and it also has several municipalities with many foreigners in them, yet it is more common to hear news like this coming from Malmö.[/QUOTE] Media loves a scapegoat. Doesn't take much to figure that one out. [QUOTE=dilzinyomouth;45326480]It is YOUR statement that means nothing. Okay its the third largest city. So what? If the third largest city has a disproportionately high violent crime rate, it is literally a more dangerous city. [B]If the third largest city has a higher violent crime rate than larger cities[/B], it begs the question as to what is happening there demographically or economically that is causing that.[/QUOTE] [I][B]Except Malmö doesn't have the highest violent crime rate, it's a fucking fabrication by media.[/B][/I] Have some statistics: [url]https://www.bra.se/download/18.12caa4f91440b31239f2c75/1396619396875/2014_D%C3%B6dligt_v%C3%A5ld_2013.pdf[/url] (page 7) [url]https://www.bra.se/webdav/files/statistik/pdf/Sammanfattning_anmalda_2013.pdf[/url] (page 17) Stockholm is worse in every aspect. [editline]9th July 2014[/editline] Can't edit my post, here's some more: [url]https://www.bra.se/webdav/files/statistik/pdf/Sammanfattning_lagforda_2013.pdf[/url] (page 33)

I never said it had the highest violent crime rate. I said IF it has a disproportionately high crime rate Secondly I can't read Swedish. It would appear the sources you've posted are gathering data by COUNTY not by individual cities. But thats fine, lets run with that for a moment. Skane county, of which Malmo is a city, has exactly the same prosecution rate for violent crimes as Stockholm's county. I seriously hope you're not just doing the old "lol ill post some pdfs to support my point, they won't read it anyway"

[QUOTE=dilzinyomouth;45336747]I never said it had the highest violent crime rate. I said IF it has a disproportionately high crime rate[/quote] Well it doesn't, glad I could clear that up. [Quote]Secondly I can't read Swedish. It would appear the sources you've posted are gathering data by COUNTY not by individual cities. But thats fine, lets run with that for a moment. Skane county, of which Malmo is a city, has exactly the same prosecution rate for violent crimes as Stockholm's county.[/quote] Not my problem, the statistics aren't translated afaik. There also are no detailed statistics city-by-city. Prosecution rates are marginally smaller than Stockholm's county. They're also virtually identical to many other counties - thus proving my point. [Quote]I seriously hope you're not just doing the old "lol ill post some pdfs to support my point, they won't read it anyway"[/QUOTE] ???

[QUOTE=demoguy08;45336104]Media loves a scapegoat. Doesn't take much to figure that one out. [I][B]Except Malmö doesn't have the highest violent crime rate, it's a fucking fabrication by media.[/B][/I] [/quote] Yes, lets compare a city with 300k residents to a city with 1.3 million residents, make fucking sense, right?

[QUOTE=freaka;45339175]Yes, lets compare a city with 300k residents to a city with 1.3 million residents, make fucking sense, right?[/QUOTE]Do you seriously not understand the concept of rates, percentages and per capita? No statistical agency takes a town with 1 million, another with 100, and assume the one with 1 mil has a higher crime rate because it has 11 murders to the town of 100's 10.

[QUOTE=demoguy08;45339038]Well it doesn't, glad I could clear that up. Not my problem, the statistics aren't translated afaik. There also are no detailed statistics city-by-city. Prosecution rates are marginally smaller than Stockholm's county. They're also virtually identical to many other counties - thus proving my point. ???[/QUOTE] Proving what point??? You just tried to tell me "Stockholm is worse in every aspect." Except thats not true. From the statistics you posted. I cant read the fine details but they are unimportant in the face of the numbers. The statistics don't need translating, maths is a universal language and the subtitles are easy enough to translate themselves. [B]violent[/B] crime rates are virtually identical for Skane as they are for Stockholm. Stockholm's county has a larger rate of non-violent crimes. From the very sources you posted. "They're also virtually identical to many other counties - thus proving my point. " WHAT point? This has nothing to do with what I said. At all.

You have no proof that Malmö has a disproportionately high crime rate, the statistics, while not directly proving it, suggests otherwise. You have yet to provide a solid basis for your claim. Clear enough?

[QUOTE=demoguy08;45341000]You have no proof that Malmö has a disproportionately high crime rate, the statistics, while not directly proving it, suggests otherwise. You have yet to provide a solid basis for your claim. Clear enough?[/QUOTE] Tell me then, [B]what claim did i make?[/B] Think about it for a moment. You might come to the shocking conclusion that your terrible reading comprehension led you to believe i was making a claim when in fact I made no claim at all.

[QUOTE=Pnukup;45334564]I'm a nationalist, so what[/QUOTE] nationalism is stupid

[QUOTE=Emperorconor;45353053]nationalism is stupid[/QUOTE] Why is it stupid.

[QUOTE=Pnukup;45354530]Why is it stupid.[/QUOTE] Because it's "racist" to want to keep your own countries traditions/beliefs alive opposed to changing to the traditions/beliefs of the immigrant population. That's all I've seen so far from the people who hate nationalism with passion.

[QUOTE='[sluggo];45317557']You said it yourself, people take ratings seriously. People are using ratings to actually express their views that this is a good this. It's not ratings that people care about, it's that a sizable portion of facepunch actually thinks that someone should be beat nearly to death with a metal rod for raising the Israeli flag.[/QUOTE] It's not about the flag... It is about people of Israel/jewish nationality fucking around in Sweden (rape, religion shit, circumcision) then trying to be proud of it by showing up with the flag. (I don't want to be ignorat but this is what I gathered around from news / googleing oh and hey, personal experience (I am from another part of EU)) [editline]11th July 2014[/editline] One of my sources.. maybe it is very biased, opinions? [url]http://www.whyileftsweden.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Fourier;45356004]It's not about the flag... It is about people of Israel/jewish nationality fucking around in Sweden (rape, religion shit, circumcision) then trying to be proud of it by showing up with the flag.[/QUOTE] I don't think 2 out of 3 of those reasons are worth beating someone with an iron rod