NSA can turn on your iPhone’s camera, mic without you knowing - Polidicks

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;43382955]This is the same data you give to facebook and a bunch of other apps on your phones. It is probably also listed in the T&C for owning an apple product. You give access to the data to a third party then the US government is entitled to access it through the third party doctrine. By agreeing to share this data with any third party you are agreeing to share it with the us government, you agreed to this when you got the phone. edit: the latest update of facebook for android allowed facebook to record without you confirmation video and audio.[/QUOTE] So because private companies do it it's also A-OK for the goverment? How about they ALL get slammed for it eh? sounds fair to every individual.

[QUOTE=O Cheerios O;43383638]So because private companies do it it's also A-OK for the goverment?[/QUOTE] You would have to seriously try to miss the point any harder. Part of the terms and conditions of owning an Apple device are that the device will call home and report information to Apple. If you don't want a device that calls home, don't buy a device that calls home, especially when that company has a legal agreement with a government entity to share information. It's not that complicated.

One of the less surprising leaks since the FBI can do similar things, and that's been known for years. For me, the general worry is with all these methods of tracking targets and individuals "suspected" of being "affiliated" with [enter blanket group here] then you run the risk of it being more like what SOPA, PIPA, and Europe's ACTA might of done with it's collateral damage: Political censorship.

my BIOS changed recently, without me changing anything. Right before this, my entire filesystems were acting strangely, primarily on my boot drive, which would neither read nor write for a period. Right after the problem stopped, my computer restarted and my BIOS was completely different. I have a feeling this is somehow related to this NSA bullshit with downloading backdoors everywhere.

[QUOTE=katbug;43387427]my BIOS changed recently, without me changing anything. Right before this, my entire filesystems were acting strangely, primarily on my boot drive, which would neither read nor write for a period. Right after the problem stopped, my computer restarted and my BIOS was completely different. I have a feeling this is somehow related to this NSA bullshit with downloading backdoors everywhere.[/QUOTE] Are there actually any identifiable signs of what happens to your computer when the NSA decides to break into it? But anyway I think it's more likely to be a run of the mill malware/spyware.

[QUOTE=Incoming.;43387605]Are there actually any identifiable signs of what happens to your computer when the NSA decides to break into it? But anyway I think it's more likely to be a run of the mill malware/spyware.[/QUOTE] I've never heard of malware changing your bios.

oh no they will see me play angry birds oh the humanity

[QUOTE=katbug;43387628]I've never heard of malware changing your bios.[/QUOTE] It was possible... In the mid-late 1990's with the CIH virus. ... On a very specific Intel chipset. And it destroyed it. v:v:v So I don't think that can still happen these days, if there's something crazy going on with your BIOS like that, I'd be more inclined to blame a weird glitch than the NSA. Unless you've done weird stuff or belong to groups that are under watchful eyes of the government. Then it could be very possible.

Suddenly i want to use Android Phones more. What they've hacked into those? Fuck it, im getting one of these. [IMG]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100908043314/muppet/images/4/47/Record_and_play_2.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=KennyAwsum;43387695]Suddenly i want to use Android Phones more. [/QUOTE] One of the android OS is open source I think, so any backdoors would be open for people to see.

[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;43387680]It was possible... In the mid-late 1990's with the CIH virus. ... On a very specific Intel chipset. And it destroyed it. v:v:v So I don't think that can still happen these days, if there's something crazy going on with your BIOS like that, I'd be more inclined to blame a weird glitch than the NSA. Unless you've done weird stuff or belong to groups that are under watchful eyes of the government. Then it could be very possible.[/QUOTE] Haha yeah, imagine if I did some crazy stuff like that I have to go do some things now. [editline]2nd January 2014[/editline] [url]http://www.chemspider.com/Chemical-Structure.23005.html[/url] [editline]2nd January 2014[/editline] FUCK

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43382987]what are with all these names they look all out of place reminds me of madlibs[/QUOTE] It looks like they're using Dwarf Fortress to generate names. "Chimneypool the free turbulence of flow is a secret project. It was created in 2008 in Straitbizarre by Urist Dropoutjeep."

[QUOTE=Kljunas;43387932]It looks like they're using Dwarf Fortress to generate names. "Chimneypool the free turbulence of flow is a secret project. It was created in 2008 in Straitbizarre by Urist Dropoutjeep."[/QUOTE] It's the new jive. NSA is just ahead of the rest of us on this one. All the kids will be singing about it next year.

They should implant small microphones into all the local squirrels so they can listen in on people.

If they do this for me for some reason (unlikely that an exceedingly normal dude from Finland is of any interest to them) all they'll get is black and me going "Goddammit" or something every now and then. My Android-phone is lying on its back with a faceplate-cover thing so even the front-camera is obscured 99,95% of the time. :v:

Just ripped out the webcam of my laptop and nicked its USB connection and used that for integrating a Logitech Unifying receiver into my laptop where the webcam used to be. Was a shitty 1 megapixels one anyway, so no big loss on that account. [QUOTE=KennyAwsum;43387695]Suddenly i want to use Android Phones more. What they've hacked into those? Fuck it, im getting one of these. [IMG]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100908043314/muppet/images/4/47/Record_and_play_2.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Elmo is gonna plant subconscious messages in your brain that tells you to rob a bank and kill the president of Iran.

[QUOTE=Oizen;43387976]They should implant small microphones into all the local squirrels so they can listen in on people.[/QUOTE] That reminds me of a DND game I played a while ago Only instead of microphones, they shoved alchemists fire into it's asshole.

[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;43387680]So I don't think that can still happen these days, if there's something crazy going on with your BIOS like that, I'd be more inclined to blame a weird glitch than the NSA. Unless you've done weird stuff or belong to groups that are under watchful eyes of the government. Then it could be very possible.[/QUOTE] Apparently the NSA can. I noticed it while watching the presentation linked in the other NSA thread, though I doubt the methods they use would be noticeable to the one being spied on as that would defeat the purpose. [video=youtube;b0w36GAyZIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0w36GAyZIA[/video] 41:10 [QUOTE=Incoming.;43387605]Are there actually any identifiable signs of what happens to your computer when the NSA decides to break into it?[/QUOTE] In that same video, at 44:10, the presenter gives a hint to how NSA malware could be identified. Here's to hoping successful detection software will be made from this, would be fun to see if the NSA is spying on you. Not that it would make any difference lol

Would be cool if you could make it send viruses and shit to the NSA. Or simply "Fuck off, NSA"

[QUOTE=TheTalon;43383002]All this stuff we hear that the NSA can do. But imagine how much man power it would take to do it. Or even sort through if it's automated. I wonder how often any of this was or is actually used, if at all. Outgoing and Incoming call logs, big deal. There's probably 4 copies of those on everyone excluding the NSA's. But activating a camera, taking photos, having them sent and looked at? There just isn't enough manpower for it to be as widespread as the news is making it out I don't think. If this is just Capability, well there are some smart regular people out and about sitting at train stations and shit doing the same thing, so I would hope the largest spy agency could, too[/QUOTE] There was a news reports just last week that they have been collecting so much useless data and they have no means of processing it. I thought when the snowden leak came out, that he said they were just putting it all on hard drives in data centres and leaving it there until they could process it all in a few years.

How to get free healthcare in America: 1.) Google "homemade atomic bomb" 2.) Swallow phone

[QUOTE=.Isak.;43383182]I know how the terrorists can circumvent tech surveillance! Go to meetings, write messages on paper, burn them afterwards. And leave your phones at home. Bam, nobody ever knows.[/QUOTE] Real Terrorist probably do this, they're not as dumb as the media makes them out to be, they can be really clever and intelligent people, the world and mainly the USA likes to feel like they're 2 steps in front when really they're losing it

Well you know they have the processing power to do it. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center[/url] Note: I love that Google allows reviews on this place lol (first post) [url]https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=wInFUsLMKsLdoAT5h4LABQ&ved=0CBUQ1S4#q=utah+data+center[/url]

Yeah this isn't really that bad compared to PRISM. The NSA is like the US Government's cyber-warfare arm, they need stuff like this.

I'm sure they're going to do a lot with photos of your pocket/purse/nightstand.

Jokes on them if they try and hijack my phone, it's out of battery 90% of the time :v: