South Carolina Office Charged With Murder of Unarmed Man - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;47479253]If it doesn't make it justifiable, why are you fixating on it? That's victim blaming. You're fixating on what [I]he[/I] did to contribute to his own death and ignoring the gun-wielding psycho that [I]murdered him.[/I][/QUOTE] He shot a fleeing suspect, which is legal when they are likely to be a threat, who had a history of arrests (including violent crimes), had assaulted an officer, and was currently in possession of a weapon. Based on the types of arrests and the fact that he obtained a stun gun, not a firearm, the shooting [I]isn't justified[/I], however the officer isn't some gun wielding psycho and the victim isn't blameless. The victim contributed HEAVILY to the circumstances of his own demise. Just because he contributed to his situation and the officer who shot him isn't batshit crazy, it doesn't mean that he isn't the victim, and it doesn't mean that the officer shouldn't face prison.

Sweet jesus that was just a straight up cold blooded murder.

[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;47479055]On the other hand taking away a stun gun from an Officer is a big no no to do, so kinda dumb on the victim's part.[/QUOTE] Stealing a cops stun gun =/= shooting him to death the cop immediately jumps to lethal force which is absolutely fucking horrendous + there's reports the stun gun was planted it's a hate crime - it's another case of cops doing open season on black people, something which FP will fight anyone for saying

I thought I was being hyperbolic back when I said there was no limit to Facepunch's capacity for victim blaming. There literally is no limit. It literally doesn't get clearer than this and there is still no shortage of people going "Well, yeah it's bad, but he did really stupid things too and kind of deserved it". A cop could shoot an INFANT and you people would come up with some convoluted way the infant contributed to it.

That is unacceptable. I hope this guy loses his shield.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;47479581]I thought I was being hyperbolic back when I said there was no limit to Facepunch's capacity for victim blaming. There literally is no limit. It literally doesn't get clearer than this and there is still no shortage of people going "Well, yeah it's bad, but he did really stupid things too and kind of deserved it". A cop could shoot an INFANT and you people would come up with some convoluted way the infant contributed to it.[/QUOTE] you're putting words into peoples' mouths and you know it. stop [editline]7th April 2015[/editline] whitewashing is no better than victim blaming

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;47479492] it's a hate crime - it's another case of cops doing open season on black people, something which FP will fight anyone for saying[/QUOTE] A cop shot a man, and you're on about fucking hate crimes. You 100% his intention was to kill a black guy? If not, don't argue for some stupid unprovable shit.

Just sad, makes you wonder how many Police officers have gotten away with it on the pretence "I felt threatened". Horrible fucking excuse to justify shooting someone in the back. If he spun around suddenly with a dark object in his hand that would be a different story.

[QUOTE=Fort83;47479592]Not a single person has said that let alone imply that, learn to read you dimwit.[/QUOTE] You are implying it by bringing up all the things the victim did wrong that led to his demise. That's the point. That's how victim blaming works. Nothing he did makes this less of a cold-blooded murder, so there's really no reason to even bring it up. Anyway, beside that, anyone else take note of how the cop didn't blink at staging the crime scene [I]right in front of another officer?[/I] Interesting that he automatically assumed his little buddy would help him lie to cover up his fault. That's pretty damning not just for him, but for the force as a whole. That raises some serious questions about the mentality of their officers when the first reaction to a shooting is to move evidence around and look at your buddy like "You'll back me up on this, right?" This is why the idea of police self-regulation is a complete and utter joke.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;47479788]You are implying it by bringing up all the things the victim did wrong that led to his demise. That's the point. That's how victim blaming works. Nothing he did makes this less of a cold-blooded murder, so there's really no reason to even bring it up. [/QUOTE] ignoring the faults of the victim paints a false picture of what actually happened. you're right, nothing he did makes it less cold-blooded, but acknowledging that his actions contributed to his death does not imply he deserved death.

Fun fact: This thread has people outright defending a cop who shot someone in the back 8 times then planted evidence on them! When there's video evidence that a police officer outright lied about several key details of the case it's time to stop trusting their version of the story

[QUOTE=Zeke129;47479873]Fun fact: This thread has people outright defending a cop who shot someone in the back 8 times then planted evidence on them! When there's video evidence that a police officer outright lied about several key details of the case it's time to stop trusting their version of the story[/QUOTE] i hope the cop gets life, that doesn't change that the victim still had a contribution to their own death

[QUOTE=Zeke129;47479873]Fun fact: This thread has people outright defending a cop who shot someone in the back 8 times then planted evidence on them! When there's video evidence that a police officer outright lied about several key details of the case it's time to stop trusting their version of the story[/QUOTE] I just read through the whole thread again, not one single person defended the cop. GunFox was the closest one and he plainly said "the shooting isn't justified." I don't know what you want people to say other than "cop bad, 200% guilty, i turn brain off now."

people who conflate saying someone had some amount of fault with saying they deserved thr end result are being intellectually dishonest

[QUOTE=Zeke129;47479873]Fun fact: This thread has people outright defending a cop who shot someone in the back 8 times then planted evidence on them! When there's video evidence that a police officer outright lied about several key details of the case it's time to stop trusting their version of the story[/QUOTE] Can you quote who's defending the cops? It's only 2 pages so it can't be that hard.

It's funny how you're about 8 times more likely to get killed by a cop then a terrorist these days.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;47480265]It's funny how you're about 8 times more likely to get killed by a cop then a terrorist these days.[/QUOTE] That's not funny

That officer's toast. His gun out and aimed, fine, but 8 shots in the back as he's running away? Not justified. It would have been legal in the 80's before the fleeing felon law was struck down, but it sure as shit ain't now The officer said he felt his life was in danger, but he casually walks up to the guy, not with his gun up and at the ready after shooting him, so no, he didn't

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;47480265]It's funny how you're about 8 times more likely to get killed by a cop then a terrorist these days.[/QUOTE] That's really not as scary as it sounds. How many terrorists are there in the US compared to how many police? It's pretty obvious why that is you think about it.

[QUOTE=butt2089;47480347]That's not funny[/QUOTE] You're right, its ironic.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;47479788]You are implying it by bringing up all the things the victim did wrong that led to his demise. That's the point. That's how victim blaming works. Nothing he did makes this less of a cold-blooded murder, so there's really no reason to even bring it up. Anyway, beside that, anyone else take note of how the cop didn't blink at staging the crime scene [I]right in front of another officer?[/I] Interesting that he automatically assumed his little buddy would help him lie to cover up his fault. That's pretty damning not just for him, but for the force as a whole. That raises some serious questions about the mentality of their officers when the first reaction to a shooting is to move evidence around and look at your buddy like "You'll back me up on this, right?" This is why the idea of police self-regulation is a complete and utter joke.[/QUOTE] I think you're either missing the point or just really afraid to admit anything wrong about the victim's behavior. If something bad happens to a person, it's alright to look at the faults of a person. Doing so does not automatically move blame away from the culprit, which is the cop in this case. It's very important to know all the details, and very scary when people decide to ignore them.

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Cops here do shoot to wound, and in most cases the criminal surrenders after being shot in the leg. I guess American criminals are different though.

That [sp]ex[/sp]cop is a piece of shit

[QUOTE=Talishmar;47481928]Cops here do shoot to wound, and in most cases the criminal surrenders after being shot in the leg. I guess American criminals are different though.[/QUOTE] shooting in the leg is just as dangerous to the perp as getting shot anywhere else, more dangerous to the officers as it isn't easy hitting the legs, ect

is it just me or does it feel like used car salesman and zeke frequent tumblr what a great 666th post

[QUOTE=Tetsmega;47480249]Can you quote who's defending the cops? It's only 2 pages so it can't be that hard.[/QUOTE] Gunfox and anyone else saying that the suspect was in possession of a weapon when it's on video that the officer planted the weapon If the guy was actually running around with the cop's tazer then the officer WOULD be defendable, but the tazer was on the ground until the cop dropped it beside him [editline]8th April 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=DarklytheGreat;47484019]is it just me or does it feel like used car salesman and zeke frequent tumblr what a great 666th post[/QUOTE] I'm the CEO of tumblr

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;47479492] it's a hate crime - it's another case of cops doing open season on black people, something which FP will fight anyone for saying[/QUOTE] Can you please point to the evidence that this shooting was racially, sexually, religiously, ethically, or gender motivated. You cant because there isnt any. You should become more educated on hate crimes before you start calling things hate crimes. I'd look at the Southern Poverty Law Center's website to get started.

[QUOTE=Fort83;47484575]Only Gunfox mistakenly mentioned that the victim "obtained" the stun gun . Everyone else clearly stated he tried to get it. That's not defending the cop in the slightest.[/QUOTE] Gunfox wasn't the only one: [QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;47479055]On one had, it sucked the man dies, and even moreso for the Officer to choose to fire his gun on him. On the other hand taking away a stun gun from an Officer is a big no no to do, so kinda dumb on the victim's part.[/QUOTE] There are just a lot of mental gymnastics in this thread to attempt to minimize what this cop did despite it being one of the most cut-and-dry instances of a corrupt cop in years. It's extremely rare that you actually have video evidence of something like this happening.

saying that the victim shouldn't have tried to grab for the stungun isn't minimizing what the cop did