[QUOTE=Blueplastic;41733047]Zombies are also overdone, lets have skeletons instead. No gore, no blood, only bones. Fun[/QUOTE]
I'd play Left4Bones
i hope that l4d3 will bring a substantial nerf to jockeys, hate those fucking teleporting headhumpers.
[QUOTE=J!NX;41733243]how the fuck did that make it boring
a light setting made the game boring
right
how the fuck do you expect people to take you serious lol[/QUOTE]
When I think about it, the daylight alone didn't make it boring considering how terrible and unsatifying the animations and FOV are, but either way I'd still prefer L4D1 night time.
I haven't played L4D2 in a long time, day time probably isn't as bad as I am saying.
[QUOTE=Blueplastic;41733286]When I think about it, the daylight alone didn't make it boring considering how terrible and unsatifying the animations and FOV are, but either way I'd still prefer L4D1 night time.
I haven't played L4D2 in a long time, day time probably isn't as bad as I am saying.[/QUOTE]
dude
even if the fov is bad you can change it
you aren't bitching out the actual weapon or gameplay mechanics, or horrible zombies, the maps aren't bad? Maybe the game is seriously unbalanced?
nope Fov and daylight. Even if it had shit FoV its retarded to complain about the gameplay over these two things. Its not day night cycles that fuck the game over.
Jesus Christ its like I'm arguing with Phil Fish, "this game is SHIT doesnt' even have a fov slider"
[QUOTE=J!NX;41733243]how the fuck did that make it boring
a light setting made the game boring
right
how the fuck do you expect people to take you serious lol[/QUOTE]
light setting is a part of atmosphere
atmosphere is a core aspect of immersion
immersion may affect overall feeling towards the game
do i need to make this simpler to you
[QUOTE=DeEz;41733360]light setting is a part of atmosphere
atmosphere is a core aspect of immersion
immersion may affect overall feeling towards the game
do i need to make this simpler to you[/QUOTE]
You know what else is a core aspect of immersion?
[I][B]REALISM.[/B][/I]
[QUOTE=J!NX;41733300]dude
even if the fov is bad you can change it
you aren't bitching out the actual weapon or gameplay mechanics, or horrible zombies, the maps aren't bad? Maybe the game is seriously unbalanced?
nope Fov and daylight. Even if it had shit FoV its retarded to complain about the gameplay over these two things
its time to serious stop and [B]think[/B]... look at your posts and say "wtf am i readin"
Jesus Christ its like I'm arguing with Phil Fish, "this game is SHIT doesnt' even have a fov slider"[/QUOTE]
What?
Just because I can change it, it doesn't mean it's gonna look and feel good.
The movement animations(which some weapons are even lacking in L4D2), knockback animation, reloading, overall placement etc. are so much better in the original game.
L4D2's animations are lifeless and boring and even when you change the FOV, it doesn't feel right.
Maybe you don't care about those things, but unsatisfying weapons made the game boring for me.
Oh and stop putting words in my mouth.
[QUOTE=DeEz;41733360]light setting is a part of atmosphere
atmosphere is a core aspect of immersion
immersion may affect overall feeling towards the game
do i need to make this simpler to you[/QUOTE]
having no Day night is seriously retarded, that literally would make no sense considering the fact the earth is round and spins
also thats ALL, thats the only thing that makes the game boring? as I said before. "you aren't bitching out the actual weapon or gameplay mechanics, or horrible zombies, the maps aren't bad? Maybe the game is seriously unbalanced?"
that, plus what the fuck is wrong with the day time? Only Night time would be retarded and boring, like how CoD has sand-syndrome
[QUOTE=Blueplastic;41733374]What?
Just because I can change it, it doesn't mean it's gonna look and feel good.
The movement animations(which some weapons are even lacking in L4D2), knockback animation, reloading, overall placement etc. are so much better in the original game.
L4D2's animations are lifeless and boring and even when you change the FOV, it doesn't feel right.
Maybe you don't care about those things, but unsatisfying weapons made the game boring for me.
Oh and stop putting words in my mouth.[/QUOTE]
Fallout 3 has shitty animations as well as poor lighting
does the game suck because of that? or is it SOMETHING MORE?
I'm not trying to say you're not allowed to hate a game, I'm saying you're hating the game for really shitty trivial reasons. At least hate it for [B]actual [/B]reasons.
compared to l4d2, l4d1 wasn't nearly as good because of the heavy lack of the better content, like an actual better challenge and actual variaty
[QUOTE=DeEz;41733360]light setting is a part of atmosphere
atmosphere is a core aspect of immersion
immersion may affect overall feeling towards the game
do i need to make this simpler to you[/QUOTE]
How in the fuck does day ruin atmosphere? I'll admit it didn't feel as pressing as L4D1, but then again the atmosphere in the day maps of L4D2 were pretty ordinary which just goes to show how normal the whole zombie thing had gotten to the survivors.
The atmosphere in L4D2 is darker than L4D1, without being actually darker.
[QUOTE=Blueplastic;41733374]What?
Just because I can change it, it doesn't mean it's gonna look and feel good.
The movement animations(which some weapons are even lacking in L4D2), knockback animation, reloading, overall placement etc. are so much better in the original game.
L4D2's animations are lifeless and boring and even when you change the FOV, it doesn't feel right.
Maybe you don't care about those things, but unsatisfying weapons made the game boring for me.
Oh and stop putting words in my mouth.[/QUOTE]
dude, if those really made the game unplayable for ya, check the workshop, there are some snazzy enhanced animations for all the weapons.
[QUOTE=Zannabluke;41733443]dude, if those really made the game unplayable for ya, check the workshop, there are some snazzy enhanced animations for all the weapons.[/QUOTE]
that and source allows for really easy as fuck FoV changing
if the map isn't dark enough
change your monitor contrast and stop bitching
[QUOTE=J!NX;41733376]
Fallout 3 has shitty animations as well as poor lighting
does the game suck because of that? or is it SOMETHING MORE?
I'm not trying to say you're not allowed to hate a game, I'm saying you're hating the game for really shitty trivial reasons. At least hate it for [B]actual [/B]reasons.
compared to l4d2, l4d1 wasn't nearly as good because of the heavy lack of the better content, like an actual better challenge and actual variaty[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Fallout 3's animations weren't smooth, but it was still satisfying to shoot.
All I am saying is that shooting in L4D2 wasn't fun for me unlike in the original game. Might be more than just the animations.
[QUOTE=Zannabluke;41733443]dude, if those really made the game unplayable for ya, check the workshop, there are some snazzy enhanced animations for all the weapons.[/QUOTE]
I was actually searching for something like that when the Worshop was released. There was a mod when the game got released that replaced all the animations with the L4D1's but it only worked on private servers or something.
Do you have any links?
[QUOTE=Blueplastic;41733460]Yeah, Fallout 3's animations weren't smooth, but it was still satisfying to shoot.
All I am saying is that shooting in L4D2 wasn't fun for me unlike in the original game. Might be more than just the animations.[/QUOTE]
there we go
please don't make insane shit like FoV and that be the judge of the game
actually judge it whole is what I wanted, otherwise no one can talk you serious and you'll be dumb bombed because its so trival
I don't understand everyones obession with FoV. Every game I play, I never even care to notice. Is it motion sickness or something like that?
[QUOTE=Blueplastic;41733460] I was actually searching for something like that when the Worshop was released. There was a mod when the game got released that replaced all the animations with the L4D1's but it only worked on private servers or something.
Do you have any links?[/QUOTE]
i'm actually on my phone so i won't be able to do much but i use mods from this guy.
[url]www.l4dmaps.com/profile.php?id=205380&user=arby26[/url]
[QUOTE=zeromancer;41733522]I don't understand everyones obession with FoV. Every game I play, I never even care to notice. Is it motion sickness or something like that?[/QUOTE]
I usually have 90-110
but low is tolerable
[QUOTE=Blueplastic;41733187]While it's nice to see that some people liked day time, it made the game boring for me.
I don't care if it's [I]too edgy[/I] and done to death, it's boring with no atmosphere whatsoever.
And night campaigns look terrible too. Like Robertto said, none of them look like it's night. For me, the setting should be like in the original L4D[/QUOTE]
Game Mechanics, how the game actually plays is what matters. If a simple day/night thing is what's ruining the game, I'm pinning you as those people who say "Good Graphics make a Good Game". Which is completely wrong.
[QUOTE=zeromancer;41733522]I don't understand everyones obession with FoV. Every game I play, I never even care to notice. Is it motion sickness or something like that?[/QUOTE]
I didn't until I tried Modern Warfare 3 on PC.
Shit made me sick for real
[QUOTE=zeromancer;41733602]I'm pinning you as those people who say "Good Graphics make a Good Game".[/QUOTE]
Well you're wrong. Seriously, you can't be more wrong. Graphics are least of my concern
And since when does that have to do with day or night and atmosphere in general?
Yes, day time might not be as bad as I said, but I still prefer L4D1's night time over anything.
Left 4 Dead 3? That's a surprise...
Honestly, with over 500 hours in L4D2 and regularly playing new custom campaigns, I'm not sure how much more fun there could be in L4D3. I trust Valve with this, though. Just saying that I'm still having tons of fun with L4D2, and don't expect many innovations in L4D3.
HL3 however, that might be interesting. But I try to forget about it, like there's never been HL. That's the best way to cope with it.
"[I]Time to move on, get on with my life. Yes, absolutely. Now, like I said, it was a long time ago. Let it go, seriously.[/I]"
[I]From Max Payne 3[/I]
[QUOTE=Loadingue;41733651]Left 4 Dead 3? That's a surprise...
Honestly, with over 500 hours in L4D2 and regularly playing new custom campaigns, I'm not sure how much more fun there could be in L4D3. I trust Valve with this, though. Just saying that I'm still having tons of fun with L4D2, and don't expect many innovations in L4D3.
[/QUOTE]
I'd imagine they'll want to bring in customization options, like they've done with TF2, Dota 2 and Portal 2. Currently they have no way of monetizing the game after purchase - no items, no paid DLC. If they play it right, it could be absolutely amazing. Or it could end up like Portal 2's item system, a complete failure. I think the competitive element alone will ensure it's reasonably successful anyway.
[QUOTE=Robertto;41733679][IMG]http://www.videogamesuncovered.com/images/stories/article-images/Left_4_Dead_3_Steam.jpg[/IMG]
[url]http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=645439[/url][/QUOTE]
what? isn't valve busy with the international right now?
[QUOTE=Blueplastic;41733686]Please let it be real[/QUOTE]
Please don't let that [I]price[/I] be real though. 40€ for a game?
Wait.. They couldn't possibly make an announcement right now..
Really?? No...
[QUOTE=Zannabluke;41733719]what? isn't valve busy with the international right now?[/QUOTE]
Didn't they mention a surprise of some sort at the end of The International on Twitter?
[QUOTE=Robertto;41733679][IMG]http://www.videogamesuncovered.com/images/stories/article-images/Left_4_Dead_3_Steam.jpg[/IMG]
[url]http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=645439[/url][/QUOTE]
Even if it would be real, a Left4Dead 3 app was found in Valve's partner site a while back so it appearing in store results at one point wouldn't be surprising going off Valve's track record.
There won't be any announcements during the international since that would take away attention.
[QUOTE=layla;41732743]It's crazy how people are still expecting HL3, It's not going to happen, it sucks but it's about time to get over it.[/QUOTE]
lol, do you really think that they let a franchise die that is a complete money seller? Over 20 million sold units until today.
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