• School prank costs student $48000
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He was [I]twelve[/I]. Nobody should lose their chance of going to college over some 6th grader mistake.
[QUOTE=Monkah;46927670]He was [I]twelve[/I]. Nobody should lose their chance of going to college over some 6th grader mistake.[/QUOTE] Why is everyone assuming he'll want to go to college?
Why is that relevant?
[quote] to a sprinkler head inside Nanaimo's Wellington Secondary School[/quote] fucking idiots.... especially if its an older system, newer ones will only trigger one area, older ones just open everything
[QUOTE=pentium;46918553]That's how modern sprinklers work. Once the static pipe pressure drops (a sprinkler activated somewhere), a pump turns on and the sharp rise in pressure causes all the sprinklers to activate in a zone, just in case the fire isn't just under the sprinkler that activated the system. This is in the land of half million dollar bungalows. They'll have the money somewhere.[/QUOTE] Nanaimo is cheap, you can buy houses there for sub $200k. It's not Metro Vancouver where the average is 1.8M. In all likelyhood they'll have to take out a line of credit to pay for this. Their dumb kid ruined them for a long time.
When I was in highschool, our one and only grad prank was putting 1 or 2 classrooms worth of desks in the halls near christmas time. We called it "desk the halls". Apparently, what took us 5 minutes to achieve (carefully mind you, we didn't throw shit around), apparently took 6 hours to clean up and 20,000 dollars to change all the locks because they quote "Didn't know if we made a copy of the janitor's key".
[QUOTE=viperfan7;46918605]High school == secondary school[/QUOTE] Just so everyone is aware, there are two stages of public education in BC: Elementary (Kindergarden to grade 7) and Secondary (grades 8-12). Secondary schools are high schools. [editline]14th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=FFStudios;46919275]definitely bad sprinkler design. fire code regulations say that it's got to have a small little tube of liquid protected by metal rods (2 is the minimum) and if that tube breaks, that's what activates the system. this sounds like they had either old sprinklers or already broken sprinklers that nobody cared about replacing and then this kid put a padlock around one, which shouldn't normally cause anything to happen because those things aren't exactly heavy, and it broke even more[/QUOTE] Lets say your average ceiling in a public building is 3 meters high. An 8th grader is going to have to take a running jump to hook what is essentially a [url=http://www.psdgraphics.com/file/padlock-unlocked-1280x1024.jpg]HOOK[/url] on on an exposed pipe. Now imagine what the sudden and unsupported weight of an 8th grader would do to a pipe.
You guys make it sound like he set out to fuck with the sprinkler system, hiding padlocks is a good old high school joke. Hopefully the parents are well off. Why are sprinkler systems so primitive? Small fire = $48k in damages....
What kind of fucking school isn't insured against damage caused by students?
[QUOTE=Yahnich;46929534]yes and let us throw him in jail, 50 lashes! you are such a vindictive person, he made a mistake as a 12 YEAR OLD KID and fucked with something with an incredibly shitty design (note how all he did was hang a lock from the sprinkler, nothing else) but sure lets make his parents poor for the foreseeable future by taking away 1.5 of an average YEARLY salary!!!![/QUOTE] He is a minor and so cannot represent himself legally. So the payment moves to those who do represent him - his parents. Parents are responsible for their kid's actions, I don't know why some of you think this is such a strange idea. Being 12 and under is not a "get out of jail free" card for everything you want to do.
Doesn't the school have insurance? It was a dumb prank but charging almost 50k seems pretty steep to teach a kid and his parents a lesson.
A kid did something stupid? Fuck his life over! Glad to see we're reasonable here.
Wow, 'murica takes emergency systems pretty serious in this 21st century, huh.
[QUOTE=Skyward;46931625]A kid did something stupid? Fuck his life over! Glad to see we're reasonable here.[/QUOTE] You don't get it, kids are supposed to be smart and never touch anything and behave the best and be gentlemen and what not. This kid is obviously an uneducated moron and his parents are at fault so ruin their lives and put them in debt or even jail with all those dangerous weed smokers.
[QUOTE=Subzero MP3Z;46929437]You guys make it sound like he set out to fuck with the sprinkler system, hiding padlocks is a good old high school joke. Hopefully the parents are well off. Why are sprinkler systems so primitive? Small fire = $48k in damages....[/QUOTE] $48k in damages is a whole lot nicer than a completely totaled building. You people arguing that a sprinkler system causing 48k of water damage is a shitty design seem to think that an entire school was built on a budget of twenty bucks and some Chuck-e-Cheese tokens. Fires do not just contain themselves.
[QUOTE=Snowmew;46931857]$48k in damages is a whole lot nicer than a completely totaled building. You people arguing that a sprinkler system causing 48k of water damage is a shitty design seem to think that an entire school was built on a budget of twenty bucks and some Chuck-e-Cheese tokens. Fires do not just contain themselves.[/QUOTE]Localized sprinklers exist. You don't need to hose the entire school for one small fire.
[QUOTE=redBadger;46918491]Or, don't be a dumbass 14 year old and do a stupid prank.[/QUOTE] because 14 year olds have fully developed rational minds and aren't filled with hormones and stuff right there's a reason they aren't tried as adults except in VERY VERY special cases such as murder
[QUOTE=Nebukadnezzer;46931891]because 14 year olds have fully developed rational minds and aren't filled with hormones and stuff right there's a reason they aren't tried as adults except in VERY VERY special cases such as murder[/QUOTE] Because hormones caused him to put a lock on a sprinkler.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;46933799]Because hormones caused him to put a lock on a sprinkler.[/QUOTE] "i should do something funny so girls notice me" I feel like its intellectually dishonest to not even try to understand the argument you're denying. Like that wasn't hard to think of, literally half a second.
this kid did something stupid so let's drive him into poverty. he'll really learn something then!
[QUOTE=TheHydra;46933971]this kid did something stupid so let's drive him into poverty. he'll really learn something then![/QUOTE] I suppose we ought to let teenage drivers who crash their cars from speeding off the hook, after all they are young and full of hormones.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;46934017]I suppose we ought to let teenage drivers who crash their cars from speeding off the hook, after all they are young and full of hormones.[/QUOTE] Yeah remember all those 12 year olds we let drive? oh wait we don't do that because that would be stupid. At least in NJ you have to be 17 to drive by yourself. Plus there's a big difference between an increased insurance premium and a surprise $48,000 in debt. Namely, the parents get to decide if they can afford to take on such risk by not letting the kid drive/get a car. This is such a poor false equivalency that I'm going to stop here, but like, really man, hold yourself to higher standard.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;46934017]I suppose we ought to let teenage drivers who crash their cars from speeding off the hook, after all they are young and full of hormones.[/QUOTE] Not the same at all, this isn't even an argument.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;46919734]Yes, let's all be the kind of kids who say "Mother, may I have a cookie? Pretty please? I am ever so famished." That's a shitty sprinkler system alright. Since when does locking one in place activate all the others? Rofl[/QUOTE] I'll steal a cookie if I fucking feel like it, but you have to be a special kind of dipshit to put a padlock on an emergency sprinkler.
He probably could defend against it, they have signs in hotels indicating that you can`t hang coat hangers on the sprinkler. This is due to people defending themselves (and winning) by saying they had not been informed. I doubt there was a school rule against it or a sign so he could be defended in the same manner.
[QUOTE=TheHydra;46933971]this kid did something stupid so let's drive him into poverty. he'll really learn something then![/QUOTE] Should be penalized but I can't help but wonder how much the school is recieving from insurance
schools are supposed to have insurance for reasons like this
A guy in one of my schools got a bet to hold the lighter close to the fire alarm, what he didn't know that the ceiling panels were extremely flammable. He did it once, just for a second. His buddies told him he get twice the money if he does it longer. The result was that he managed to set fire to the ceiling panel, a teacher ran out of the classroom with black board ruler hit down the panel. The fire alarm got set of and the firefighters came, at least the school didn't had a sprinkler system. The cost for the false alarm was around 3000 Swedish crowns which is around 370 dollars
[QUOTE=viperfan7;46918605]High school == secondary school[/QUOTE] Well and to a lot of us high school = university. The truth is names are rarely universal across nations or even regions.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;46953253]Well and to a lot of us high school = university. The truth is names are rarely universal across nations or even regions.[/QUOTE] This is a confusing thing when discussing schools internationally. Over here HS is Uni too, before that you go to middle school when you do year 10-12(sometimes 13)
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