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[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49853424]The legal precedent has already been set that they have the right to due process. No amount of nay saying is going to change the fundamental way that the court system has functioned since this country's inception.[/QUOTE] Are you trying to tell me Operation Wetback didn't happen?
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49853369]Well if you saw some of the nasty lies the guy wrote about Trump you would understand. With torture, I'm all for it. I'm all for bringing back something worse than waterboarding. If you saw some of the shit ISIS actually does you would be too.[/QUOTE] When the CIA itself says "ya know this whole torturing thing isn't working" you don't double down on it
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49853435]Are you trying to tell me Operation Wetback didn't happen?[/QUOTE] I am telling you that Donald Trump does not have the right to deport millions of people without giving them each an individual court hearing first. That is not something that he is within his power to do as president.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49853435]Are you trying to tell me Operation Wetback didn't happen?[/QUOTE] Precedent from 1954 doesn't stand when it's been over ridden Stop grasping for fucking straws
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49853369]With torture, I'm all for it. I'm all for bringing back something worse than waterboarding. If you saw some of the shit ISIS actually does you would be too.[/QUOTE] what the fuck torture doesn't even friggin' work and wouldn't solve anything
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49853449]Precedent from 1954 doesn't stand when it's been over ridden Stop grasping for fucking straws[/QUOTE] But it did happen, right?
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49853453]But it did happen, right?[/QUOTE] Sure but the logical argument you're trying to draw is one based on a thing known as "case law" or precedent And guess what? It's not in your favour. [editline]2nd March 2016[/editline] Did slavery happen? Oop now there's case law to support slavery in 2016 How you think precedent works
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49853463]Sure but the logical argument you're trying to draw is one based on a thing known as "case law" or precedent And guess what? It's not in your favour. [editline]2nd March 2016[/editline] Did slavery happen? Oop now there's case law to support slavery in 2016 How you think precedent works[/QUOTE] What about Carter? Do you know how he banned and deported Iranians from the US?
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49853413]Constitutional rights are for legal US citizens.[/QUOTE] :speechless:
[QUOTE=Levithan;49853452]what the fuck torture doesn't even friggin' work and wouldn't solve anything[/QUOTE] it isn't about what's been proven to work, or what's even physically possible, it's about what feels good to them Donald Trump is everything the right has ever complained about in the left and more. He's an inexperienced authoritarian who wants to use his power to force the entire world to comply with his will. You literally couldn't make a worse candidate if you engineered one in a laboratory.
Fat White Lump is also the same guy who supports banning over 1,600,000,000 people from entering the country due to what a tiny minority of people did in Europe. I basically read all his posts in Trump's voice.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49853471]What about Carter? Do you know how he banned and deported Iranians from the US?[/QUOTE] "someone did something therefor I can deport however many millions of people I want without trial" is not an argument that will stand up in a court of law What you want is a dictator. You are advocating for something that goes against the foundational principles of the United States.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49853369]With torture, I'm all for it. I'm all for bringing back something worse than waterboarding. If you saw some of the shit ISIS actually does you would be too.[/QUOTE] torture doesn't even work people have been pointing this out since the 17th century
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49853493]"someone did something therefor I can deport however many millions of people I want without trial" is not an argument that will stand up in a court of law What you want is a dictator. You are advocating for something that goes against the foundational principles of the United States.[/QUOTE] You guys act like it's impossible. It's not, I don't know if you know this but transportation technology has improved exponentially since 81. We can deport so many illegals. What I want is someone who isn't a communist or criminal. I want someone to make America great again.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49853494]torture doesn't even work people have been pointing this out since the 17th century[/QUOTE] there are a lot of people on here I disagree with there are a lot of political ideologies I find revolting But I have never seen in the political arena a man so consummately unfit, so politically illiterate, so obscenely authoritarian, and so transparently full of hot air as Donald Trump.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49853471]What about Carter? Do you know how he banned and deported Iranians from the US?[/QUOTE] Your point? Just because a previous president did something makes it okay? No, that's not the case.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49853507]You guys act like it's impossible. It's not, I don't know if you know this but transportation technology has improved exponentially since 81. We can deport so many illegals. What I want is someone who isn't a communist or criminal. I want someone to make America great again.[/QUOTE] you are literally advocating for criminal action [I]right now[/I] you are [I]specifically asking for a criminal[/I]
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;49853522]Your point? Just because a previous president did something makes it okay? No, that's not the case.[/QUOTE] I'm not arguing if it's okay or not, I'm arguing that's possible to do it again. [editline]2nd March 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49853527]you are literally advocating for criminal action [I]right now[/I] you are [I]specifically asking for a criminal[/I][/QUOTE] How is deporting illegals a criminal action?
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49853530]I'm not arguing if it's okay or not, I'm arguing that's possible to do it again. [editline]2nd March 2016[/editline] How is deporting illegals a criminal action?[/QUOTE] because legal precedent states they have the fucking right to due fucking process and the president doing what the court has ruled is illegal is [I]illegal[/I] and by extension [I]criminal[/I]
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49853453]But it did happen, right?[/QUOTE] Yeah and at a point we had slaves what is your point my man
[QUOTE=phygon;49853539]Yeah and at a point we had slaves what is your point my man[/QUOTE] He's saying that it would be physically possible to do it Yes, it would. It would also be physically possible for Donald Trump to throw a homeless man off the roof of Trump Tower. It would also be [I]criminal.[/I]
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49853537]because legal precedent states they have the fucking right to due fucking process and the president doing what the court has ruled is illegal is [I]illegal[/I] and by extension [I]criminal[/I][/QUOTE] Clinton deported 12 million and Bush deported 10 million, why are they not in prison if it's illegal?
trump getting elected is basically the american equivalent of the roman emperor augustus coming to power and inaugurating the start of a slow economic and social decline
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49853563]trump getting elected is basically the american equivalent of the roman emperor augustus coming to power and inaugurating the start of a slow economic and social decline[/QUOTE] Trump is nowhere near as talented as Augustus though. I'll say he's closest to someone like Nero.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49853563]trump getting elected is basically the american equivalent of the roman emperor augustus coming to power and inaugurating the start of a slow economic and social decline[/QUOTE] I was thinking more along the lines of Nero.
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49853559]Clinton deported 12 million and Bush deported 10 million, why are they not in prison if it's illegal?[/QUOTE] care to post the source for this remember, the issue is not that you can't deport people, the issue is that you cannot deport people who are established in the country without due process So I'm expecting that you're going to show me an example of people established in the US being deported without due process
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49853588]care to post the source for this remember, the issue is not that you can't deport people, the issue is that you cannot deport people who are established in the country without due process So I'm expecting that you're going to show me an example of people established in the US being deported without due process[/QUOTE] [url]http://joemiller.us/2015/12/clinton-deported-4-times-as-many-illegal-aliens-as-obama/[/url] [url]http://www.factcheck.org/2015/12/ted-cruz-on-deportations/[/url]
[QUOTE=proboardslol;49853051]Hillary Clinton will beat trump. If trump wins I'll take a 2 week :toxx:[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/48o24f/hillary_clinton_cant_count_on_bernie_sanders/[/url] Read some of those comments. bye
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49853614][url]http://joemiller.us/2015/12/clinton-deported-4-times-as-many-illegal-aliens-as-obama/[/url] [url]http://www.factcheck.org/2015/12/ted-cruz-on-deportations/[/url][/QUOTE] fat white lump can you tell me where the phrase "without due process" is used in either of these articles? in the sentence “the compulsory and confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States based on an order of removal”, do you know what the word "deportable" means?
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49853507]You guys act like it's impossible. It's not, I don't know if you know this but transportation technology has improved exponentially since 81. We can deport so many illegals. What I want is someone who isn't a communist or criminal. I want someone to make America great again.[/QUOTE] Do you really believe sanders is a communist? Idc that you support trump, but if you don't even understand the difference between social democracy and communism that would be disappointing
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