Super Tuesday - most polling booths close at 7pm EST
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[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49853614][url]http://joemiller.us/2015/12/clinton-deported-4-times-as-many-illegal-aliens-as-obama/[/url]
[url]http://www.factcheck.org/2015/12/ted-cruz-on-deportations/[/url][/QUOTE]
Do you read the shit you post? It says right there in the article that Ted is talking shit and that most of those were "returns" so they left on their own accord and weren't removed...
[QUOTE=proboardslol;49853102]Who are you, world renowned toxx commissioner Vinch McMahon?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
The contracts are signed and dated. We'll be seeing you later sir. Good day.
[QUOTE=Blackavar;49853628][url]https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/48o24f/hillary_clinton_cant_count_on_bernie_sanders/[/url]
Read some of those comments.
bye[/QUOTE]
Its also Reddit. They do not represent any sizable amount of the population. Their liberal hivemind isnt close to being a rational thinking person.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;49853587]I was thinking more along the lines of Nero.[/QUOTE]
I was thinking more along the lines of Caligula
also fat white lump, implying bernie sanders is a communist doesn't make it true
[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49853387]The terrorists are winning because of Obama and his poor leadership skills. Funding terrorist organizations is not something a good leader of the USA does.[/QUOTE]
You're right, it's something every leader has done so far, and Trump is the kind of guy who would likely do the same thing. He's a businessman, if he thinks the country could make money off of it, he'd do it. Ethics aren't really something he understands, morals are the things he's seen in childrens books (this was his bedtime reading, for himself).
Trump being a businessman does not mean he is in any way capable of actually managing the country, the two are vastly differently. In business being a cutthroat bellend is basically expected. Why should you care about the impact you have on the world? You've got a bottom line to reach dammit and nobody can stop you. Better squash those small start ups, bulldoze a few homes here and there, we've got money to make.
A country requires some actual understanding of compromise and compassion. You need to be able to look at more than "are we in debt" as that isn't the only measure a country works on.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49853563]trump getting elected is basically the american equivalent of the roman emperor augustus coming to power and inaugurating the start of a slow economic and social decline[/QUOTE]
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Trumps reign laid the foundations of a regime that lasted, in one form or another, for nearly nineteen hundred years through the ultimate decline of the Arizonan Empire and until the Fall of Washington in 1521 TC (Trump Century) . Both his adoptive surname, Trump, and his title Emperor became the permanent titles of the rulers of the American Empire for nineteen centuries after his death.
His public works projects included the unification of diverse state fences into a single Great Wall of America and a massive new national road system, as well as the city-sized mausoleum maintained by 8000 Mexican workers.
Trump is known in popular culture for his futile search for an elixir of hair growth.
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Comparing Trump to great men like Augustus and Napoleon is a bit much.
Remember guys the only way to beat the terrorists is to stoop to their level.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;49853697]You're right, it's something every leader has done so far, and Trump is the kind of guy who would likely do the same thing. He's a businessman, he he thinks the country could make money off of it, he'd do it. Ethics aren't really something he understands, morals are the things he's seen in childrens books (this was his bedtime reading, for himself).
Trump being a businessman does not mean he is in any way capable of actually managing the country, the two are vastly differently. In business being a cutthroat bellend is basically expected. Why should you care about the impact you have on the world? You've got a bottom line to reach dammit and nobody can stop you. Better squash those small start ups, bulldoze a few homes here and there, we've got money to make.
A country requires some actual understanding of compromise and compassion. You need to be able to look at more than "are we in debt" as that isn't the only measure a country works on.[/QUOTE]
The world is a globally linked economic network. You can't fuck over other countries to make a profit.
If Trump tries to do what he's said he'd do with China or Mexico or South Korea it would result in global economic gridlock, and any person with even a cursory understanding of reality can see that.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;49853665]Its also Reddit. They do not represent any sizable amount of the population. Their liberal hivemind isnt close to being a rational thinking person.[/QUOTE]
The reddit post links to an Washington Times article: [URL]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/1/hillary-clinton-cant-count-on-bernie-sanders-suppo/[/URL]
I think it will come down more to who wins the debates than anything though.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49853731]The world is a globally linked economic network. You can't fuck over other countries to make a profit.
If Trump tries to do what he's said he'd do with China or Mexico or South Korea it would result in global economic gridlock, and any person with even a cursory understanding of reality can see that.[/QUOTE]
His voters aren't the type to understand economics or similar factors of reality. Probably Trump isn't either considering his history of bankruptcy. The point however is that he'll do it if he thinks it'll work.
It's also worth noting that things like wars which have a massive net cost can still be profitable to the industries required for warfare and even if it costs money and lives, warfare may yield territorial and political control and resources.
Same logic could work with economic fuckery, don't ya think
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49853731]The world is a globally linked economic network. You can't fuck over other countries to make a profit.
If Trump tries to do what he's said he'd do with China or Mexico or South Korea it would result in global economic gridlock, and any person with even a cursory understanding of reality can see that.[/QUOTE]
We are getting kinda fucked in some deals, it's only reasonable we need to fair it out.
[QUOTE=Talishmar;49853812]His voters aren't the type to understand economics or similar factors of reality. Probably Trump isn't either considering his history of bankruptcy. The point however is that he'll do it if he thinks it'll work.
It's also worth noting that things like wars which have a massive net cost can still be profitable to the industries required for warfare and even if it costs money and lives, warfare may yield territorial and political control and resources.
Same logic could work with economic fuckery, don't ya think[/QUOTE]
Not when the people you're strong arming are the people your major corporations rely on to remain competitive in a world market.
Trump's plan is essentially to just play chicken with the rest of the world and hope everyone bends to his will before everything fucking implodes.
He's basically going to force the entire rest of the world to unite against the country.
[editline]2nd March 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49853840]We are getting kinda fucked in some deals, it's only reasonable we need to fair it out.[/QUOTE]
We do get fucked, but the solution to that is not to grab the person fucking us and jump off a cliff.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49853494]torture doesn't even work
people have been pointing this out since the 17th century[/QUOTE]
Actually think it was banned (in most cases) on those grounds back in the 16th century here in Denmark, though maybe I'm just a century off.
[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;49853492]Fat White Lump is also the same guy who supports banning over 1,600,000,000 people from entering the country due to what a tiny minority of people did in Europe.
I basically read all his posts in Trump's voice.[/QUOTE]
He didn't say he wants to ban all Muslims from entering the US. Stop perpetuating this lie. He said he wants to suspend importing them until they can be properly vetted as not being a threat to US citizens.
"importing them" :v:
[QUOTE=Ridge;49854316]He didn't say he wants to ban all Muslims from entering the US. Stop perpetuating this lie. He said he wants to suspend importing them until they can be properly vetted as not being a threat to US citizens.[/QUOTE]
it won't be hard to stop something that we already aren't doing
[QUOTE=Ridge;49854316]He didn't say he wants to ban all Muslims from entering the US. Stop perpetuating this lie. He said he wants to suspend importing them until they can be properly vetted as not being a threat to US citizens.[/QUOTE]
he literally said he wants to shut down all muslims from entering the united states.
like, every single person who happens to be a muslim. it doesn't matter if it's temporary - it's a fucking ban on every muslim regardless of who they are outside of being a muslim
does nobody not notice how fucking insane this is?
[QUOTE=Ridge;49854316]He didn't say he wants to ban all Muslims from entering the US. Stop perpetuating this lie. He said he wants to suspend importing them until they can be properly vetted as not being a threat to US citizens.[/QUOTE]
I can't tell whether you're saying it's just a temporary ban (with a totally vague clause for when it's going to end), or whether he has stated that Muslims should still be able to immigrate but be interviewed beforehand. In case of the first, I'm pretty sure that would be unconstitutional, and for the second I'd like a source because I haven't heard him say that (and I doubt that that would be entirely constitutional as well).
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49854376]he literally said he wants to shut down all muslims from entering the united states.
like, every single person who happens to be a muslim. it doesn't matter if it's temporary - it's a fucking ban on every muslim regardless of who they are outside of being a muslim
does nobody not notice how fucking insane this is?[/QUOTE]
apparently not 44% of the country
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49853537]because legal precedent states they have the fucking right to due fucking process
and the president doing what the court has ruled is illegal is [I]illegal[/I] and by extension [I]criminal[/I][/QUOTE]
And when they are found to be guilty of entering the country illegally (which won't be too hard to prove), then they get deported.
[QUOTE=Ridge;49854410]Which criminal act is that?[/QUOTE]
to remove someone from the country without due process or anything
but hey, fuck due process those dirty illegal immigrants don't deserve legal or ethical treatment
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;49854350]"importing them" :v:[/QUOTE]
I know, terrible phrasing, but I couldn't remember the proper term.
[QUOTE=Ridge;49854410]And when they are found to be guilty of entering the country illegally (which won't be too hard to prove), then they get deported.[/QUOTE]
Oh easy, just 12 million separate investigations and hearings?
sounds simple enough. Probably won't take more than an afternoon.
[editline]3rd March 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ridge;49854423]I know, terrible phrasing, but I couldn't remember the proper term.[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, neither can Trump.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49854376]he literally said he wants to shut down all muslims from entering the united states.
like, every single person who happens to be a muslim. it doesn't matter if it's temporary - it's a fucking ban on every muslim regardless of who they are outside of being a muslim
does nobody not notice how fucking insane this is?[/QUOTE]
The US has no obligation to let foreigners into the country. It's a privilege that is extended in dire situations.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;49854396]I can't tell whether you're saying it's just a temporary ban (with a totally vague clause for when it's going to end), or whether he has stated that Muslims should still be able to immigrate but be interviewed beforehand. In case of the first, I'm pretty sure that would be unconstitutional, and for the second I'd like a source because I haven't heard him say that (and I doubt that that would be entirely constitutional as well).[/QUOTE]
The latter
[url]https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration[/url]
[QUOTE=Trump]"Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine. Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ridge;49854439]The US has no obligation to let foreigners into the country. It's a privilege that is extended in dire situations.[/QUOTE]
why does it apply to muslims as a collective group
he doesn't even hide it by saying "terrorists" or some other euphemism. he just straight up says "all muslims".
does this apply to white british people who converted to islam? does the man at the immigration office scroll down the list and say "sorry, says here you are moslem, out you go".
[QUOTE=Ridge;49854453]The latter
[url]https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration[/url][/QUOTE]
Do you really have no idea why the middle east might not like America..?
Is this just a thing for Trump voters?
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;49854447]Who fills the jobs they're doing?
Because that leaves a huge void in the economy. And don't say Americans. Because fucking no one is going to line up to pick tomatoes and lettuce.
I mean no one really thought the whole "deport all the illegals" thing through the whole way.[/QUOTE]
How about the 15 million unemployed Americans?
[url]http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000[/url]
[QUOTE=Ridge;49854439]The US has no obligation to let foreigners into the country. It's a privilege that is extended in dire situations.[/QUOTE]
lets just put aside the morality of not letting in people of a specific religion
how exactly do you enforce that?
how do you determine who is and is not a muslim?
[QUOTE=Ridge;49854459]How about the 15 million unemployed Americans?
[url]http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000[/url][/QUOTE]
lets put aside that just simply matching up numbers with other numbers is meaningless
Are those 15 million unemployed in the same areas as the migrant workers source of employment? If not, will they be able to easily move, or travel there? Will they even accept those jobs at the minimum wage that it'll be set to in those states? Will they move to earn those minimum wages?
Like seriously, do you people think about 'logistics' before you just answer with bullshit?
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