Shillary Clinton 'alarmed' over calls for Israel boycott, urges bi-partisan action days after meetin - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Svinnik;48137192]Why are you assuming that I meant your post? I disagree with it but there is nothing anti semitic there.[/QUOTE] It should go without saying that some critics and criticisms of Israel are antisemitic. However Israel and its supporters dismisses criticisms by just claiming antisemitism.

Insulting your opponent doesn't make your point any more correct, I know Hillary is running because the amount of money she can make is enormous, but I'm not going to call her names to get my point across because that would just make me look like an ass.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;48137219]You were replying to a post that addressed the antisemitic accusation towards it.[/QUOTE] What I was replying to was [QUOTE]Antisemitic accusations towards Israeli critics are basically a joke[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=lolo;48137237]Insulting your opponent doesn't make your point any more correct, I know Hillary is running because the amount of money she can make is enormous, but I'm not going to call her names to get my point across because that would just make me look like an ass.[/QUOTE] If we can ridicule Sarkesian and Wu on their videogame politics, can't we do the same to actual politicians? I think she's really deserving of ridicule after something as blatant as this.

[QUOTE=Lamar;48137295]If we can ridicule Sarkesian and Wu on their videogame politics, can't we do the same to actual politicians? I think she's really deserving of ridicule after something as blatant as this.[/QUOTE] Wu and Sarkesian-they're small and very insignificant, these two have very little impact on your life and can be ignored, they don't have the jobs and payment you receive for those jobs on their hands, they are not as malicious as Hillary, politics is in my opinion very serious, and to have people understand you is to take it seriously as well. On top of that, I'm not onboard with the people who make fun of Wu and Sarkesian, I chose to ignore them, I do not wish to be grouped with those people.

fuck clinton

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;48136803]Can you point to a specific instance where her political stance was contrary to that of wealthy campaign donors? If she has donors that do not disagree with any of her stated political goals then that's either extremely rare or she's bought and paid for. I hope our first woman president will be one who can restore people's faith, not make them distrust the government further.[/QUOTE] Generally people donate to politicians they already agree with. So it's not surprising that people who donate to Hillary agree with Hillary.

[QUOTE=Lamar;48137295]If we can ridicule Sarkesian and Wu on their videogame politics, can't we do the same to actual politicians? I think she's really deserving of ridicule after something as blatant as this.[/QUOTE] Why do you keep calling to GamerGate as a defense for your conspiracy-nuttery and anti-Israel views? A lot of prominent AGG figures are heavily anti-Israel anyways.

[QUOTE=Monkah;48138050]Why do you keep calling to GamerGate as a defense for your conspiracy-nuttery and anti-Israel views? A lot of prominent AGG figures are heavily anti-Israel anyways.[/QUOTE] Only brought up GG twice . Funny enough, I only brought it up earlier before to point out your hypocrisy with pretty much everyone agreed to. [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1467823&p=47819140&viewfull=1#post47819140[/url]

[QUOTE=Monkah;48137025]"everyone that disagrees with me is corrupt, a shill, and stupid!!! beware of the israelluminati!!" holy shit you guys sound exactly like /pol/[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=CapellanCitizen;48136652]Breaking news: Politician hears about issue and then takes stance on that issue. If that's what shilling has come to then the word has truly lost all meaning[/QUOTE] Do you think she sat down and had a reasoned discussion about the issue, considering both sides of the topic, then at the end after having already decided her stance they presented her with a surprise gift of $2 billion? I know it's topical and fun to throw a scapegoat under the bus and shout "/pol/!! /pol/!!!" whenever someone says something anti-Israel (or uses the term.. shill?) but they're both right. If you take a $2 billion bribe to support a cause, you're a shill, and anyone who says otherwise is being intentionally dull.

Sorry if I don't have faith that a woman with a past of corruption who was married to a man with more shady ties than LBJ- and that's saying something- and has been typically the definition of a backroom politician made a wise and informed decision from her heart that was not at all related to money or her personal gain. Perhaps I'm simply naive to believe that Clinton is a corrupt power-hungry career politico. Don't get me wrong, going against Israel in US politics is a deathwish. Even Sanders back Israel. Doesn't make it ok. Just adds to Clinton's stack of bad shit.

[QUOTE=sgman91;48137385]Generally people donate to politicians they already agree with. So it's not surprising that people who donate to Hillary agree with Hillary.[/QUOTE]Normally it's on single issues, as far as I know Hillary's donators all share her political goals but I really haven't closely examined every single connection. I was never, ever going to vote for her, so I'm not going to devote much time into it. I just hope she doesn't win anything, I truly detest that woman.

America appears caught between a rock and a hard place. If Sanders doesn't win the nomination, we'll be stuck choosing between corruption with the Democrats, or total destruction with the Republicans. And if Sanders DOES win the nomination, it may pull some away from voting Dem.

oy vey we all have to support our greatest ally

i have a feeling if the situation was oil conglomerates giving a politician $2 billion and the politician then said "climate change is a myth" and someone here called them a shill there would be far less of you guys complaining about it despite it being nearly the same thing [editline]7th July 2015[/editline] like yeah "shillary clinton" is a bit childish but to say that she is shilling isn't really that tinfoil hatty at all unless you also think the above situation is tinfoil hatty, on which i will congratulate you for consistency

I didn't get the Shillary Clinton thing, I actually thought it was a sister of Hillary. I am not a smart man.

Why do American politicians always tend to have a hard on for Israel? It's just sad.

[QUOTE=Sniping Robot;48139632]Why do American politicians always tend to have a hard on for Israel? It's just sad.[/QUOTE] Well how many other middle eastern nations are secular democracies with stable economies, modern militaries, and pro-western governments?

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48139757]Well how many other middle eastern nations are secular democracies with stable economies, modern militaries, and pro-western governments?[/QUOTE] Dunno. In Canada I've talked to a few people that support Israel because of the whole "gods chosen people" thing. Apparently preserving Israel will bring about the end times or something and thats good. I can only imagine that the same biblical sentiment exists in the US itself.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48139794]Dunno. In Canada I've talked to a few people that support Israel because of the whole "gods chosen people" thing. Apparently preserving Israel will bring about the end times or something and thats good. I can only imagine that the same biblical sentiment exists in the US itself.[/QUOTE] Oh I won't deny that there's similar sentiment among the trailer park boys here, but from an actual geopolitical standpoint Israel is (no pun intended) a Godsend to US interests in the region.

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[QUOTE=Sniping Robot;48139632]Why do American politicians always tend to have a hard on for Israel? It's just sad.[/QUOTE] Lot's of Americans support Israel, just not the demographic you'd find posting on online forums.

Is /pol/ new the new buzzword here? I think Shillary Clinton is a most fitting name for someone who changed their views for cash. This is true political shilling not some "ebil anti semitic goyim /pol/ rant" thing or whatever. And OP is barely a /pol/ incarnate, I don't see any happy merchants or "ITS HAPPENING" quite yet. Anyway, I feel like all American politicians are just utter shit, always working for the buck and not the people. This just proves it further.

[QUOTE=Fourier;48137373]fuck clinton[/QUOTE] You might be thinking of the wrong Clinton

[QUOTE=Fourier;48137373]fuck clinton[/QUOTE] t. Lewinski

oh no! people are calling a politician names on the internet! whatever shall we do? why are we getting so angry about the word "shill"

[QUOTE=Sniping Robot;48139632]Why do American politicians always tend to have a hard on for Israel? It's just sad.[/QUOTE] Parties interested in supporting Israel have their teeth in our lobbies. Going against AIPAC is pretty much a deathwish for absolutely any politician, their political and media clout is unreal.

[QUOTE=Lamar;48136573][url]http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.664694[/url] [url]https://archive.is/3t8VG[/url] [url]http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/hillary-clinton-jewish-donors-israel-119705.html[/url] (Donor story) Probably another reason for Bernie to be the democratic runner, less likely to stifle free speech (Anti-boycott laws) for campaign donations.[/QUOTE] Although I'll never even consider Bernie Sanders beyond the position of being not-Hillary; I suppose those recent donations from Haim Saban and Steven Spielburged must've swayed her opinion. I'm just surprised that those generous gifts from George "Bank Breaker" Soros [ also known as: Schwartz György] didn't counteract her new disposition. [editline]7th July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Rangergxi;48139794]Dunno. In Canada I've talked to a few people that support Israel because of the whole "gods chosen people" thing. Apparently preserving Israel will bring about the end times or something and thats good. I can only imagine that the same biblical sentiment exists in the US itself.[/QUOTE] The relationship dates back to the Cold War: where the West saw Israel to be a fitting proxy in its efforts to stop Soviet hegemony - in itself done through the proxies of the Ba'Athists and Egypt (along with the Soviet-backed Islamic mutineers in Southern Lebanon) - within the Middle East, and, thereof, began to expand diplomatic and commercial relations with Israel. This relationship would persist, and would even evolve into various lucative military and technological exchanges. Said relationship continues to persist, and within its original realpolitikal groundings and foundations; the religious fervency is primarily, but not entirely, to warm the public up to this allegiance with greater ease. [editline]7th July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Canuhearme?;48142573]Parties interested in supporting Israel have their teeth in our lobbies. Going against AIPAC is pretty much a deathwish for absolutely any politician, their political and media clout is unreal.[/QUOTE] No shit it is. Then again, why would any politician ever go against their sugar-daddy? Don't bite the hand that feeds you, [sp]goyim[/sp]. The Mossad guns pointed at the back of my head are unrelated to my statements; I assure you thoroughly.

I agree that Hillary Clinton is a shill, and I do side with Bernie Sanders (96%) more than Hillary. But saying that Lamar and Starpluck haven't shown constant antisemitic behavior before would be lying. I would go as far as to say that Lamar is most likely a white supremacist. People shouldn't forget what keeps supplying electricity and aid to Palestine. Israel is the only secular country that stands with western-values in otherwise shithole middle-east. Had Women's rights and freedom of religion since the foundation of the country. Keep this in mind. In all the wars Israel had, it has the lowest recorded civilian death count, that's mostly do to the fact the Israel doesn't deliberately target civilians. If it did, Palestinians would be extinct. Most people that are anti-israel are actually also anti-Semites as well. [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Gimmick" - Swebonny))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Shillary;48142950]I agree that Hillary Clinton is a shill, and I do side with Bernie Sanders (96%) more than Hillary. But saying that Lamar and Starpluck haven't shown constant antisemitic behavior before would be lying. I would go as far as to say that Lamar is most likely a white supremacist. People shouldn't forget what keeps supplying electricity and aid to Palestine. Israel is the only secular country that stands with western-values in otherwise shithole middle-east. Had Women's rights and freedom of religion since the foundation of the country. Keep this in mind. In all the wars Israel had, it has the lowest recorded civilian death count, that's mostly do to the fact the Israel doesn't deliberately target civilians. If it did, Palestinians would be extinct. Most people that are anti-israel are actually also anti-Semites as well.[/QUOTE] Don't you mean that [I]all[/I] people who don't support their Greatest Ally are antisemites, Shlomo? You've got to lay down the law for these filthy goyim.