Thousands Protest in New York, Rallies in Other Cities Against Zimmerman Verdict - Polidicks

Someone is found not guilty , people go out and protest. World finds out america is spying on them, and spying even harder on their own citizens , people sit down and do nothing. can someone please explain this logic

Fuck these people, fuck them. They're angry over some stupid court that they didn't even follow correctly and now they're protesting over something dumb as this. While, lo' and behold, there is corruption in the government, everything around us is dying, corporations and other shit are getting away with such crap that makes the sensational titles 100% accurate -- and that whole NSA and PRISM thing at the moment.

Trayvon Martin would not be considered a kid in the uk, your a young adult at 16, you can join the military, get a job and live your life. He did not look like a child either, he was 6'2 in height.

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;41463383]I know a few Masons through Rotary club. It's really not a big conspiracy, honest.[/QUOTE] My dad's a freemason so I can indeed confirm he doesn't make sacrifices to the Illuminati

I think people are acting like fucking babies because they dont want to accept that they were wrong about thinking zimmerman was guilty, to not look stupid they think the trial was all staged and stuff to try and look less stupid, but in the end, they achieve the exact opposite.

[QUOTE=woolio1;41461529]According to the official proceedings, Martin tackled Zimmerman and bashed his head against the concrete... So I'd say Zimmerman really didn't have too many options at that point.[/QUOTE] Zimmerman was also following Martin, he put himself in the situation

[QUOTE=Instant Mix;41466015]Someone is found not guilty , people go out and protest. World finds out america is spying on them, and spying even harder on their own citizens , people sit down and do nothing. can someone please explain this logic[/QUOTE] Serious protesters make angry, off-handed posts on Facebook. Get with the program!! :downs:

[QUOTE=Rika-chan;41467469]Zimmerman was also following Martin, he put himself in the situation[/QUOTE] Following someone isn't a crime.

[QUOTE=MR-X;41467531]Following someone isn't a crime.[/QUOTE] Did I say it was a crime? Hint: no I said he put himself in danger by not listening to what the police told him to do over the phone. If he didn't follow Trayvon, nobody would have died.

[QUOTE=Reimu;41463289]The Implicit Association Test proves that people of color are much more likely to receive negative perceptions wherever they go, based on snap judgments created by internalized socialization. It's a sociological phenomenon only recently proven by IAT. It proves the same thing that the "baby doll" tests in the 1950s did - compared to blacks, whites seem to be the superior color choice. It's only natural that Trayvon would be exposed to this sort of prejudice by simply existing. This is what many people within POC communities have been discussing. Furthermore, as a person of color, do you have any experience with racial profiling? Or are you a white person saying that you think you understand the prominence of racial profiling in society Following someone isn't illegal. But is it even necessary? He was told by dispatcher to stay in his house. That was all he should have done as a neighborhood watch captain. If he was remotely capable of understanding the ramifications of approaching a stranger in the middle of the night, he would have let the police and the rest of his watch handle the situation. [editline]15th July 2013[/editline] Zimmerman knew on the 911 call that Trayvon was black. And IIRC the Martin's were the only black family in the community[/QUOTE] There was no way Zimmerman was racially profiling. There were multiple break-ins in his community in the past months. These break-ins were known to be committed by black men. You see a black man walking between two houses, at night, in the rain, hood on, you would think "holy shit, one of our suspects - we can finally get this to stop" and that's exactly what he did. It wasn't racial profiling, it was using deduction to come to the conclusion that this might be one of the people committing crimes in his community. Following him WAS necessary. He did not want him to get away. He was being a good citizen by making sure the police would be able to find and question him. Once they found out he lived right down the road, he could have been on his way. But instead, Martin decided to confront and start a fight with him and then drove it so far as attempted murder. The only person that caused Martin's death was Martin. Zimmerman could've been stupid and confronted him, but he didn't. He could've acted like a wanna-be cop, but he didn't. He stayed back, left it to the police. [editline]15th July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Rika-chan;41467553]Did I say it was a crime? Hint: no I said he put himself in danger by not listening to what the police told him to do over the phone. If he didn't follow Trayvon, nobody would have died.[/QUOTE] A POLICE DISPATCHER IS NOT A POLICE OFFICER AND HAS NO AUTHORITY. If you call 911 because your friend is hanging off the ledge of a building and is in danger of falling they will say "Ok, help is on the way." Then when you tell them "I have to go help my friend" they will say "No, we don't need you to do that." just like they told Zimmerman. It's a standard line they are trained to say.

[QUOTE=An Axolotl;41461959]Shit, I just wish the whole thing never happened. Trayvon never went to the store, never beat up Zimmerman, and Zimmerman never shot him. So much less grief, and wasted time. An acquittal was bound to happen anyway. We could focus on more important things that are wrong with America. Still though, after all is said and done, this guy makes an intense point. Up to you if you agree or disagree. [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/S00JGDH.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] If it gets too bad, the guy can just move to canada|europe somewhere else. COnsidering how much he'll probably make from the suit against the media companies he should be able to live quite comfortably. On top of that in something like a year or two no one will remember who he is. The only thing he has to really do is change the city he lives in. [QUOTE=Rika-chan;41467469]Zimmerman was also following Martin, he put himself in the situation[/QUOTE] In a sense what Zimmerman did was foolish. There's no argument about that. But all he did, as far as we know, he was within his full rights to do. The fact that he ended up as a victim is a secondary aspect of it. Because going by the verdict, that is what he was. An armed victim. It's not all that dissimilar from saying a chick deserved to have a rape attempt happen to her because she dressed in a miniskirt at night.

[QUOTE=wraithcat;41467731]If it gets too bad, the guy can just move to canada|europe somewhere else. COnsidering how much he'll probably make from the suit against the media companies he should be able to live quite comfortably. On top of that in something like a year or two no one will remember who he is. The only thing he has to really do is change the city he lives in.[/QUOTE] That's good if you have the cash and ability to find a job to make such a move feasible. [i]Most black folk do not.[/i]

[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;41467745]That's good if you have the cash and ability to find a job to make such a move feasible. [i]Most black folk do not.[/i][/QUOTE] Hence saying, that what Zimmerman will go trough isn't on the same level :)

Also, as had been said before, these protests don't exist in a vacuum. One acquittal, good or not is one thing. But this is but one data point in black folks relations with the law. This time, there may have been a reasonable verdict. The trouble is, that have been an exception from the usual rule.

Let's all protest about a guy with a murder charge walking free but not the Government spying on us. Again, why?

I'm starting to get a headache, I hate racism as much as the next guy (Well, unless [I]he's[/I] a racist) But this seems, well... Ridiculous? Overreacting?

[QUOTE=UntouchedShadow;41469138]Let's all protest about a guy with a murder charge walking free but not the Government spying on us. Again, why?[/QUOTE] Because race issues affect PoC all the damn time, yet prism doesn't touch their lives in the least.

[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;41467800]Also, as had been said before, these protests don't exist in a vacuum. One acquittal, good or not is one thing. But this is but one data point in black folks relations with the law. This time, there may have been a reasonable verdict. The trouble is, that have been an exception from the usual rule.[/QUOTE] The thing is, the US system is jury based. If the verdicts are lined one way, then the US population itself essentially creates this shafting, and very often are blacks parts of these juries.

[QUOTE=wraithcat;41469503]The thing is, the US system is jury based. If the verdicts are lined one way, then the US population itself essentially creates this shafting, and very often are blacks parts of these juries.[/QUOTE] Give me some percentages.