Las Vegas police shoot man in front of his pregnant fiancé during marijuana warrant
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[url]http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/29/florida.police.shot/index.html?hpt=T2[/url]
2 white officers murdered by black criminals today, no guns pointed at the suspects, both of them had families and children. Where is the outrage? I look forward to the double-standard responses and the "fuck da police comin straight from the underground"
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;22981343]Again, if they had just rushed into the apartment, they wouldn't have the suspect's fiance at gunpoint on her knees. You don't go in on a bust and subdue everyone [B]but[/B] the suspect. And when the fuck did I ever say they should have "found some magical way" to make sure he didn't have a gun? I've clearly made the point that even if he was reaching for a weapon, which was doubtful in this situation, they should have subdued him and not shot him in the head. There have been hundreds of traffic stops where the suspect DID have a weapon, and they subdued him without killing him.[/QUOTE]
I'm done with you.
All you keep saying is "they should have found some [b]magical[/b] way to subdue him" when you list no way that they can do that without endangering themselves. If you rushed him and he had the time to pull out a weapon, he could have seriously injured or kill the officers.
When you are raiding a place that you don't know all the details about, you keep everyone under control, you don't want anyone rushing the officers or doing anything stupid just because "you should only subdue the suspect".
You are dumb, you have no common sense, and will never get it through your thick head the officers were just acting in self preservation. It's standard procedure to have your weapons drawn when you are doing a raid on the apartment.
I need a break from facepunch anyhow.
[QUOTE=Zeus;22981434][url]http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/29/florida.police.shot/index.html?hpt=T2[/url]
2 white officers murdered by black criminals today, no guns pointed at the suspects, both of them had families and children. Where is the outrage? I look forward to the double-standard responses and the "fuck da police comin straight from the underground"[/QUOTE]
This was already posted.
Sorry that was realy dump.
But still, I, [b]I[/b] do not see anything racistic in a cop shooting a man. Sure, he was black, and? Double standards, that's what you guys have.
[QUOTE=Zeus;22981434][URL]http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/29/florida.police.shot/index.html?hpt=T2[/URL]
2 white officers murdered by black criminals today, no guns pointed at the suspects, both of them had families and children. Where is the outrage? I look forward to the double-standard responses and the "fuck da police comin straight from the underground"[/QUOTE]
What, you think someone's going to defend a guy killing cops? Of course what happened is horrible, and I don't really know what else to say about it. There was no real way to see this coming, you don't expect a passenger of a car pulled over for a minor traffic issue to randomly whip out a gun and shoot at you, and there's not much you can do to prevent it besides pulling everyone out and patting them down and so forth, which isn't really standard procedure when it comes to a simple traffic stop.
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[QUOTE=Oecleus;22981458]I'm done with you.
All you keep saying is "they should have found some [B]magical[/B] way to subdue him" when you list no way that they can do that without endangering themselves. If you rushed him and he had the time to pull out a weapon, he could have seriously injured or kill the officers.
When you are raiding a place that you don't know all the details about, you keep everyone under control, you don't want anyone rushing the officers or doing anything stupid just because "you should only subdue the suspect".
You are dumb, you have no common sense, and will never get it through your thick head the officers were just acting in self preservation. It's standard procedure to have your weapons drawn when you are doing a raid on the apartment.
I need a break from facepunch anyhow.[/QUOTE]
Right, enjoy the break and try and work on your reading skills in the meantime, they're a little rusty.
EDIT: Here, to finish this off, i'll say this. Even if he couldn't "magically subdue" him, he could have done anything other than shoot him in the face. There's literally no reason the cop should have done that, and it's a blatant case of police brutality. Like a poster said above, even a shot to the chest would have been slightly reasonable.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;22981547]
Right, enjoy the break and try and work on your reading skills in the meantime, they're a little rusty.[/QUOTE]
Ooh. Nice one
:jerkbag:
Just so you guys know. In every police force in America, when a police officer fires his gun he is trained to kill. Never incapacitate. If he wants to incapacitate he uses his other weapons like pepper spray or the tazer. I don't know here you guys got the idea that an officer is supposed to shoot to incapacitate.
Damn, his wife was held at gunpoint over his possession and possible distribution of pot? Fucking shit, I'll never go get blazed in Vegas if this is how it's handled there.
Can someone tell me why this guy thought it would be a smart idea to make a move at a cop who has a gun pointed at his head?
All he had to do was cooperate. Sad
[QUOTE=Zeus;22981866]Can someone tell me why this guy thought it would be a smart idea to make a move at a cop who has a gun pointed at his head?
All he had to do was cooperate. Sad[/QUOTE]
Furtive movement means it looked like he was going for a weapon. Nothing was said about moving at the cop.
[QUOTE=redonkulous;22981814]Just so you guys know. In every police force in America, when a police officer fires his gun he is trained to kill. Never incapacitate. If he wants to incapacitate he uses his other weapons like pepper spray or the tazer. I don't know here you guys got the idea that an officer is supposed to shoot to incapacitate.[/QUOTE]
They are trained to "shoot to hit." That's it.
Cops are trigger happy when it comes to black folk.
:(
He looks like a friendly guy.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;22981912]Furtive movement means it looked like he was going for a weapon. Nothing was said about moving at the cop.[/QUOTE]
If a cop was going to arrest me I wouldn't make any moves at all, especially at gunpoint.
At least, that's what common sense would tell me to do.
[QUOTE=Zeus;22981947]If a cop was going to arrest me I wouldn't make any moves at all, especially at gunpoint.
At least, that's what common sense would tell me to do.[/QUOTE]
Regardless of it being a bad idea, it's still not something to be shot in the face over
One more child that will grow up without his father, because his father was shot over some grass.
I live in Las Vegas and the police here do not fuck around.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;22981458]I'm done with you.
All you keep saying is "they should have found some [b]magical[/b] way to subdue him" when you list no way that they can do that without endangering themselves. If you rushed him and he had the time to pull out a weapon, he could have seriously injured or kill the officers.
When you are raiding a place that you don't know all the details about, you keep everyone under control, you don't want anyone rushing the officers or doing anything stupid just because "you should only subdue the suspect".
You are dumb, you have no common sense, and will never get it through your thick head the officers were just acting in self preservation. It's standard procedure to have your weapons drawn when you are doing a raid on the apartment.
I need a break from facepunch anyhow.[/QUOTE]
You're getting so mad over this.
Also, you should have realized that if the man actually did have a gun, it probably would have mentioned it in the article. They would probably mention if there was a gun anywhere on the block. It makes for a very different story, you see, and it's an important detail.
Since they made no mention of such a weapon owned or operated by the assailant, we can only assume he was unarmed. Now, from this point, we take into account the record of the officer, that he has been involved in past suspicious shootings, and you start to get the feeling that maybe the suspects 'furtive movements' might not have existed at all.
It just seems incredibly suspicious. Not even the slightest mention of the guy having a weapon or even appearing armed, yet, even when subdued, he required the use of deadly force on account of his 'furtive movements'. My white ass, fuck that, that's bullshit. That's just cop talk for "I wanted to shoot this nigger and I pretended he gave me a reason". Just like 'illegal lane change' is cop talk for 'I really think you look like someone I could arrest so I pulled this reason out of my ass, and I'd like you to step out of the car please'. It's happened to me a few times, and I'm pretty sure I've never actually made an illegal lane change. The jakes just wanted to pull me over because I look sorta like a pot head, which I admit is my own fault, but still, they're a bunch of assholes.
RIP, gunned down by egotistical trigger happy scum
I generally like police officers, but one rule that always applies is to never trust them.
another wonderful success in the war on drugs.
[QUOTE=haushippo;22982322]another wonderful success in the war on drugs.[/QUOTE]
What the fuck.
News like this almost makes me want to become a cop just so there's one more cop out there that wouldn't do this. :smith:
First dogs, now people?!
Police, wtf is wrong with you?!
[QUOTE=Mingebox;22981918]They are trained to "shoot to hit." That's it.[/QUOTE]
They're trained shoot to kill. If you're going to pull a gun you better have a damn good intention to use it.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;22980326]Lol a man died because of weed.
Weed.
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They shot a man over WEED.[/QUOTE]
Hah, guess we can add this to the lists where people say people have never died because of marijuana, right?
racist cop is racist
[QUOTE=revrend_slapaho;22984834]racist cop is racist[/QUOTE]
Stop posting.
"Furtive movement" is not drawing a weapon. There is a clear difference, which even I can tell. No matter what, you do not kill someone because you *think* they *might* be drawing a weapon of some kind. Tell him to freeze, smack him, do SOMETHING, but don't shoot to kill.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;22980485]Seriously? I mean really, come on. You think this is justified? Yea, ok let's say he was making an obvious move for his pocket. You know what the cop could have done? Not killed him, shot him in the arm or some other area to incapacitate him. Or even better yet, he could have held him at taser-point, there was seemingly no reason to have a gun pointed at him.[/QUOTE]
Cops are trained to shoot for the centre mass, the torso. And when they do, shoot to kill. Firearms are meant to be a last resort for Police Officers, and if they use them, they better be prepared to take a life.
[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;22985056]No matter what, you do not kill someone because you *think* they *might* be drawing a weapon of some kind. Tell him to freeze, smack him, do SOMETHING, but don't shoot to kill.[/QUOTE]
so just wait and see if they kill you?
it takes a split second to end someone's life with a gun
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