New CoD confirmed, Activision claims it will be "Full Of Innovation"
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[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;34645254]or maybe it's because the average gamer has this insane idea that games like CoD and Battlefield are realistic
first step to a realistic shooter: remove most if not all fully automatic weapons
It's very rare for a soldier to fire his weapon in anything but semi-automatic or burst fire[/QUOTE]
There is a bit more to realism than just how the weapons handle however, especially as a gun nut that's something that I tend to focus on more than anything. But in terms of use of cover, teamwork, terrain modification, staged advances, vehicular combat, SOUND DESIGN, player movement, and size of the battlefield and number of participants, CoD clearly has the shit beaten out of it in terms of realism.
I can't take anymore CoD games. The games and the players are just plain terrible.
[QUOTE=MegaChalupa;34645317]There is a bit more to realism than just how the weapons handle however, especially as a gun nut that's something that I tend to focus on more than anything. But in terms of use of cover, teamwork, terrain modification, staged advances, vehicular combat, SOUND DESIGN, player movement, and size of the battlefield and number of participants, CoD clearly has the shit beaten out of it in terms of realism.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, I was just referring to something that could easily be changed from one game to the next, and that's gun handling. Hypothetically all those other features could be seen as too great a change, but only a change in gun handling would be easy to implement.
MODERN WARFARE: THE RUSSIANS STRIKE BACK.
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[QUOTE=MegaChalupa;34645317]There is a bit more to realism than just how the weapons handle however, especially as a gun nut that's something that I tend to focus on more than anything. But in terms of use of cover, teamwork, terrain modification, staged advances, vehicular combat, SOUND DESIGN, player movement, and size of the battlefield and number of participants, CoD clearly has the shit beaten out of it in terms of realism.[/QUOTE]
I just walked around and gunned people down with a SAW from the hip.
Gonna hook it up to the innovation tank and pump it full of innovation YEAH!
[QUOTE=jbthekid;34635126]All jokes aside, I suppose since Treyarch will be developing it that it actually will be "full of innovation". They're the only ones who actually brought something new to the table, not drag one game on across the span of 4 years like Infinity Ward did. They didn't leave us with a cliffhanger in their games either, you started then finished the game. I'm looking forward to it.[/QUOTE]
You realize the fact that infinityward was forced to do that
right
inb4 russians, chinese, brazillians and iraqies
The last good COD was MW2. Please stop making any more of these, PLEASE.
Stop banging them. I'll only judge it after i've played it.
If the previous CODs were bad, doesn't mean the new ones will be bad.
[QUOTE=rikimaru6811;34646048]Stop banging them. I'll only judge it after i've played it.
If the previous CODs were bad, doesn't mean the new ones will be bad.[/QUOTE]
If they continue to run on the same shitty formula they've been using, than yes, it will suck. Its hard to not hate it when they just release the same shit every year with a new name.
Treyarch actually tries new things with each game, though.
I have faith in this one. Look at the changes between CoD3, WaW and black ops. If they aren't exaggeration this innovation I'd expect a decent game.
Maybe they will add hats and a trading system! What could go wrong?!?!
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;34634976]I don't see how they can continue off of MW3's story considering it's ending. Hopefully they'll start with a new set of characters[/QUOTE]
I don't see how they made MW2 since COD4's entire plot was to stop a world war.
Every COD is awesome for couple of days untill the game starts to turn from fun to
fucking pile of shit. I really would like to see [b]DEDICATED SERVERS[/b] in next cod and
smooth controls like in COD4 and MW2 and make FPS higher in concoles.
COD games are good the way they are and thats why they are fun and if you wanna play
realistic games then go play that BF.
Cod games have a lot of bad sides like people camping in same spot whole game to get
killstreaks and having that sweet KD ratio high. Prestige mode is fucking useless shit.
Go ahead and rate me boxes.
[QUOTE=theninfort;34646026]The last good COD was MW2. Please stop making any more of these, PLEASE.[/QUOTE]
Are you serious? MW2 was the absolute worst in the entire series. Both SP and MP wise.
I hope treyarch get it right.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;34641563]What people? And overstayed its welcome? Welcome to where? It's a fucking video game series. Battlefield has 20 fucking games, where is this "overstayed your welcome" shit?[/Quote]
The people who get bitched at for ritually complaining about how stupid the newest title in the series is going to be. It's overstayed it's welcome because generally the only people who still think it's amazing are 12 year old kids who scream obscenities down the mic on Xbox Live.
[Quote] Improving off each other is a bad thing? [/QUOTE]
Improving is never a bad thing, dragging a newly created trope out to the point of being expected in every new game in the series is not improvement (the protagonist "dying" to name one)
[Quote]There is literally no evidence it will, besides your paranoid and neurotic hatred for things that don't exist in the game series.[/QUOTE]
Except the enormous amount of gamer fatigue everyone is getting with super-gritty modern conflict shooters. Also calling my general dislike of the franchise paranoid and neurotic would be a whole lot more effective if they were used in the right context and please kindly point out where I identified things that don't exist in the game series. I'd like to hope that Skyrim outselling MW3 was foreshadowing of the next titles absolutely crashing and burning like Guitar Hero.
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[QUOTE=theninfort;34646026]The last good COD was MW2. Please stop making any more of these, PLEASE.[/QUOTE]
You can't say they should have stopped making CoD games after MW2 when that game ended on a cliffhanger. You really can't.
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[QUOTE=Revan564;34646240]If they continue to run on the same shitty formula they've been using, than yes, it will suck. Its hard to not hate it when they just release the same shit every year with a new name.[/QUOTE]
What about Gears of War, or Mass Effect, or pretty much any fucking game that runs off the same engine. JUST because it isn't pushing to be as COMPLETELY Different as humanly possible from its predecessor, doesn't mean it's bad.
If you can honestly, with a straight face, tell me that Black ops and MW3 have absolutely NOTHING different from eachother, then you can have somewhat of a point.
Man I sure hope R6 Patriots rocks.
I haven't played a new, fun MP game in years at this point.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;34652289]You can't say they should have stopped making CoD games after MW2 when that game ended on a cliffhanger. You really can't.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't make any sense.
Of course people can say they [i]should[/i] have stopped making CoD games after MW2. But they knew Activision never planned to.
Besides, why would someone care about a cliffhanger if they don't think the story isn't compelling?
[QUOTE=Someoneuduno;34649285]The people who get bitched at for ritually complaining about how stupid the newest title in the series is going to be. It's overstayed it's welcome because generally the only people who still think it's amazing are 12 year old kids who scream obscenities down the mic on Xbox Live.[/quote]
Surely you typed that and went "This is a bit stupid, should I post this?" Because effectively your mind process is fucking bizarre "Hmm, what will win my argument? OH, I know, COMPLETELY generalise over 6.5 million people and say that the only people who have the right to determine if the game should exist are the ones who don't like it, yeah that'll make me win the argument."
[quote]Improving is never a bad thing, dragging a newly created trope out to the point of being expected in every new game in the series is not improvement (the protagonist "dying" to name one)[/quote]
I don't see how that's a trope being dragged out. They did it a few times. It was just to emphasis the fact that your character COULD die. It wasn't fucking going "OH NO WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT ANYMORE, PSYCHE LOL"
[quote]Except the enormous amount of gamer fatigue everyone is getting with super-gritty modern conflict shooters.[/quote]
For someone who doesn't know a hell of a lot, you sure are talking for everyone.
[quote]Also calling my general dislike of the franchise paranoid and neurotic would be a whole lot more effective if they were used in the right context and please kindly point out where I identified things that don't exist in the game series. I'd like to hope that Skyrim outselling MW3 was foreshadowing of the next titles absolutely crashing and burning like Guitar Hero.[/QUOTE]
That's like saying Mass Effect outselling Borderlands PROVES borderlands 2 will fail. Let me point out that skyrim sold .5 million more copies than MW3, that's really not a lot when you REALLY think about it. And beleive it or not, a lot of the Skyrim purchases were from people who also bought MW3.
There are a lot of people in this thread who dislike the series based on a bandwagon approach and don't really provide arguments, then some actually DO provide decent arguments. You're in the middle, you provide arguments, but they are mind-bogglingly stupid. How the hell do you get MW3's success from Skyrim's sales, that's just confounded logic that makes NO sense.
You are a very confusing person, and not a very intelligent one either.
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[QUOTE=The Vman;34652369]That doesn't make any sense.
Of course people can say they [i]should[/i] have stopped making CoD games after MW2. But they knew Activision never planned to.
Besides, why would someone care about a cliffhanger if they don't think the story isn't compelling?[/QUOTE]
uh because not everyone disliked the story? Really, you couldn't have figured that one out yourself?
CoD bashing aside there are somethings they've done in MW3 which quite frankly should have been done back in MW2. Like Survival mode, that was fun. With a bit more polish it could have been great.
Just wish the game itself wasn't a gigantic chore to play in general, I wouldn't have so much a problem with the Online aspect if it wasn't so heavily infested with screaming 12 year olds. I mean seriously it gets debilitatingly irritating.
[QUOTE=Gubbinz96;34652790]CoD bashing aside there are somethings they've done in MW3 which quite frankly should have been done back in MW2. Like Survival mode, that was fun. With a bit more polish it could have been great.[/quote]
They absolutely should have, and the community made it clear. That's why IW caved in and built the survival mode, which except for a few very small things, I think it's brilliant.
[quote]Just wish the game itself wasn't a gigantic chore to play in general, I wouldn't have so much a problem with the Online aspect if it wasn't so heavily infested with screaming 12 year olds. I mean seriously it gets debilitatingly irritating.[/QUOTE]
Just mute them. I play the game quite a bit and I've never encountered "screaming 12 year olds" I mean, hell, I see a few shitheads, but it's really easy to tune out.
[QUOTE=Don Knotts;34639448]
I say let the people who actually enjoy these games buy them over and over again. I'll stick to things that won't have a sequel in a few weeks.[/QUOTE]
Media attention is the key. It's all about the money.
I fear other developers will take the same steps.
CoD games after MW1:
Spend a whole bunch of money on advertisements.
Copy prequel, add a map there, a weapon here and finish of with a scripted campaign.
Release the game with the highest price tag on the market.
Tell your fans that a sequel is on the way.
Map packs.
Keep the same price tag for years.
Repeat.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;34653936]They absolutely should have, and the community made it clear. That's why IW caved in and built the survival mode, which except for a few very small things, I think it's brilliant.
Just mute them. I play the game quite a bit and I've never encountered "screaming 12 year olds" I mean, hell, I see a few shitheads, but it's really easy to tune out.[/QUOTE]
I would hardly consider the MW3's survival mode "Brilliant." I'll admit it was a very nice inclusion but compared to other games with survival/horde modes it is severely lacking. It feels like a last minute addition with minimal effort put into designing it, much like the rest of the game feels.
However I trust Treyarch a lot more than I do IW to come up with an interesting sequel.
[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;34646823]I have faith in this one. Look at the changes between CoD3, WaW and black ops. If they aren't exaggeration this innovation I'd expect a decent game.[/QUOTE]
Black Ops still had an AI at least several degrees worse than MW2's, and the level design and multiplayer stage design wasn't quite up to par. Treyarch has innovation, they just need to perfect their skills as developers.
[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;34655446]Black Ops still had an AI at least several degrees worse than MW2's, and the level design and multiplayer stage design wasn't quite up to par. Treyarch has innovation, they just need to perfect their skills as developers.[/QUOTE]
Yet despite treyarch tending to produce ones that are not rated as well, I find that I enjoyed black ops more than mw3 because they changed things. Yes it might not be perfect, but it was new.
Even when COD4 came out, and I was 12, I thought, wow, this is stupid, this MUST be the last COD.
Here we are.
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