Ohio School Shooter TJ Lane Laughs, Gives Finger at His Sentencing
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[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;39974929]Are you bloodthirsty animals satisfied yet, or do you guys want to describe more psychopathic fantasies about killing this dumb kid[/QUOTE]
I want to force him to read facepunch posts in threads about murderers for the rest of eternity!!!!
[editline]19th March 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=MuTAnT;39974937]Yeah what's up with all the prison rape fantasies? That shit's pretty fucking weird.[/QUOTE]
Rape is bad until I can spin it as being a tool for justice in which case rape is good bring on the rape
btw guys I'm a progressive
He looks like Sid from Toy Story 1
[QUOTE=Puni;39974499]I genuinely dont find his attitude surprising. If anything I am surprised this kind of reaction doesnt happen more often.
Nothing to lose, might as well drag it down as much as possible.
From his PoV anyway.
Im still of the opinion that if you intentionally go out of your way to cause some sort of grief to others then the consequences should be fairly unlimited.
This guy for example, I would have no problem ticking a box sending him to be tortured for the rest of his days. I think thats fair punishment if you go out of your way to end and ruin other peoples lifes
I am sure 90% of people will disagree but it would cut out so much bullshit and wouldnt happen at all as long as people were decent to one another.[/QUOTE]
under your own framework you'd be tortured for the rest of your days then
it's pretty sad that so many people look to societies worst to provide 'justice'
This is the edgiest guy in history
[QUOTE=Puni;39974499]
I am sure 90% of people will disagree but it would cut out so much bullshit and wouldnt happen at all as long as people were decent to one another.[/QUOTE]
do you propose we be more decent to one another by calling for torture
[QUOTE=Chernobyl426;39973101]You can masturbate without a middle finger.[/QUOTE]
I dunno man.
I tried once. Couldn't even get erect.
He clearly needs help. He should have been/be in an asylum.
I feel like people looking back at this 100 years from now will see the way we handle these types of criminals in disgust, the same we do looking back at the conditions the mentally ill were put through in days past.
[QUOTE=bopie;39975151]He clearly needs help. He should have been/be in an asylum.
I feel like people looking back at this 100 years from now will see the way we handle these types of criminals in disgust, the same we do looking back at the conditions the mentally ill were put through in days past.[/QUOTE]
Hope you're not implying that any civilized country but the US would do this.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;39974513]i hope he has fun doing absolutely nothing for 24/7 and being faded as another killer while society moves on and realizes the dumb shit he did wasn't worth it[/QUOTE]
pretty well-put
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;39972721]Holy [I]shit.[/I]
He is literally going to rot in prison and the only thing he has to say is "fuck all of you" while he [B]wears a shirt that says "killer" on it and flips off the families of the people he killed.[/B][/QUOTE]
I'm incredibly confused as to why this has so many winners, is this trying to glorify the kind of behaviour used by the killer?
[editline]20th March 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Ericson666;39972749]I kinda feel bad for him, he's got to be seriously fucked in the head or has nothing to live for to just do that[/QUOTE]
Where as I feel bad for people who legitimately believe they've done nothing wrong due to severe mental instability. This guy planned out the murders, and now laughs in the faces of the families he's hurt he knows what he did, and he wanted to do it. No pity from me.
[editline]20th March 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;39972823]I never understood the point in giving anyone more than one life term in prison.
It serves no purpose other than just sounding really silly.[/QUOTE]
It became important at the point where criminals with only one life sentence were granted parole, and let out without, to combat that they'd give them multiple, and by doing so increase the chances of denying parole, or when they'd be eligible for it, and it's been carried into today when it's no longer necessary since they can be denied parole, and makes it incredibly hard to appeal since if one sentence gets stripped he's still got two more.
I hope he sits in his cell, constantly reminded that only what he did was reprehensible, but also screwed over the rest of his life. That he sits in his cell letting remorse and guilt slowly worm their way into his skull, until it torments him enough to apologise for his crimes.
Then maybe, just maybe, he'll manage to pull himself into something resembling a half decent person, even if he is prison.
Some people can't be rehabilitated.
[QUOTE=bopie;39975151]He clearly needs help. He should have been/be in an asylum.
I feel like people looking back at this 100 years from now will see the way we handle these types of criminals in disgust, the same we do looking back at the conditions the mentally ill were put through in days past.[/QUOTE]
tbh
you underestimate how fucking dickish people can be. just because someone is cruel and not remorseful doesn't mean they belong in an asylum. people very often point to mental illness once something like this happens and it not only demonizes the mentally ill (depicting them as the only group of people capable of severely cruel violence), but it also moves the attention away from improving protections that will actually help in the end
very normal people are capable of being extremely cruel
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;39975605]tbh
you underestimate how fucking dickish people can be. just because someone is cruel and not remorseful doesn't mean they belong in an asylum. people very often point to mental illness once something like this happens and it not only demonizes the mentally ill (depicting them as the only group of people capable of severely cruel violence), but it also moves the attention away from improving protections that will actually help in the end
very normal people are capable of being extremely cruel[/QUOTE]
inb4 the ethical dilemma of punishing anyone for the way they were born, what's the difference between labeling them "crazy" or "cruel"?
[QUOTE=PowerBall v1;39975710]inb4 the ethical dilemma of punishing anyone for the way they were born, what's the difference between labeling them "crazy" or "cruel"?[/QUOTE]
because "crazy" is linked to a physical disability and cruelty can be perpetrated by anyone
[QUOTE=bopie;39975151]He clearly needs help. He should have been/be in an asylum.
I feel like people looking back at this 100 years from now will see the way we handle these types of criminals in disgust, the same we do looking back at the conditions the mentally ill were put through in days past.[/QUOTE]
Except if he was mentally ill he genuinely wouldn't believe what he did was wrong, or understand why. He knows perfectly well that it was bad, and even laughs at the victims families. Not everyone teenager who kills someone is crazy, and not everyone who acts like a complete ass is crazy.
[QUOTE=plunger435;39975729]Except if he was mentally ill he genuinely wouldn't believe what he did was wrong, or understand why. He knows perfectly well that it was bad, and even laughs at the victims families. Not everyone teenager who kills someone is crazy, and not everyone who acts like a complete ass is crazy.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure being mentally ill doesn't just mean you think the bad things you do are good. I imagine there are mental illnesses that can cause you to do things you know are bad.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;39975716]because "crazy" is linked to a physical disability and cruelty can be perpetrated by anyone[/QUOTE]
Many mental disorders can't be linked with anything observable in the brain, so it's not that simple. But without dwelling to deep into philosophy... noone commits cruel acts in their perspective. If they truly thought is was cruel, and wrong, they wouldn't do it. So they lack empathy for other people, can we truly blame them for this?
The answer in any civilized country with custodial sentences focusing on rehabilitation instead of punishment the answer would be whatever works. What is more likely to condition the offender into being a functional citizen, a prison or an asylum?
Get fucked in prison, Lane.
I know someone who was harmed in these shootings, so this especially effects me.
"He'll get raped in prison, that'll show him! Instead of fixing the deplorable quality of our penal system, let's celebrate and encourage the sexual abuse of correctional inmates!"
Get real.
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;39972823]I never understood the point in giving anyone more than one life term in prison.
It serves no purpose other than just sounding really silly.[/QUOTE]
Several things.
If he can ever get an appeal going, it can only be on one of those life sentences, not all of them.
Or, having good behavior can reduce your time significantly. There's been many people who have gotten life sentences and became free men later in their lives.
[editline]19th March 2013[/editline]
Honestly, as much as he is a sick fuck, I wouldn't wish death/rape upon him, that's just barbaric. He should be admitted to a ward and rehabilitated, even if he never sees society again he still should have the right to become a healthy human being instead of festering like the pile of shit he is now.
[QUOTE=PowerBall v1;39975810]Many mental disorders can't be linked with anything observable in the brain, so it's not that simple. But without dwelling to deep into philosophy... noone commits cruel acts in their perspective. If they truly thought is was cruel, and wrong, they wouldn't do it. So they lack empathy for other people, can we truly blame them for this?
The answer in any civilized country with custodial sentences focusing on rehabilitation instead of punishment the answer would be whatever works. What is more likely to condition the offender into being a functional citizen, a prison or an asylum?[/QUOTE]
don't mistake me for one of those punitive "fuck em in the butt that'll show im" type people that thinks he should be treated worse; i very much think that prisons need to be reformed back to the way in which they used to function in the united states pre-nixon (they actually used to be quite rehabilitative until the war on drugs kicked off)
it's just that normal people are often conditioned to be violent and automatically labeling someone as mentally ill when they perpetrate a grievous act is both destructive to handicapped individuals and to normal people
I hope he wakes up in 20 years time, remembers the name of one of his victims then burst into tears.
[editline]20th March 2013[/editline]
without being raped
[QUOTE=AJisAwesome15;39974929]Are you bloodthirsty animals satisfied yet, or do you guys want to describe more psychopathic fantasies about killing this dumb kid
ffs he's going to jail for the rest of his life what more do you want[/QUOTE]
is it necessary to be calling people "bloodthirsty animals" over posts on a forum? I understand that it's never good to wish death on others, but I don't think that makes somebody a "bloodthirsty animal"
Well, now his fellow inmates know who to buttfuck first
[QUOTE=Kylel999;39972710]What's he going to do, increase his number of life sentences?[/QUOTE]
It's not going to make it any better, he's locked up forever and he knows it. Might as well leave the courtroom like he doesn't care at all.
[QUOTE=plunger435;39975245]It became important at the point where criminals with only one life sentence were granted parole, and let out without, to combat that they'd give them multiple, and by doing so increase the chances of denying parole, or when they'd be eligible for it, and it's been carried into today when it's no longer necessary since they can be denied parole, and makes it incredibly hard to appeal since if one sentence gets stripped he's still got two more.[/QUOTE]
Also the fact in most states you have to do a percentage of each sentence before even being eligible for parole. In Kentucky its 75% I believe, so if you get consecutive life sentences you are fucked.
itt everybody in prison is a rapist.
[QUOTE=Gdog16;39974105]"Its not ethical." What the point? He just going to die 80 or so years, just kill him now so he'll get to hell faster.[/QUOTE]
In previous posts I have been for the Death penalty. But recently I've been reading up on it, like some people wrongly getting put to death, and came to the conclusion that it would be better for a murderer to suffer each day thinking about what they did.
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