Quantum Time Machine Solves Grandfather Paradox - Polidicks

You go have fun with your theoretical science while the real scientists work. :science:

But if you time traveled and changed something in the past, wouldn't it have all ready happened in the future? Eh, it's what I like to believe.

:science: is awesome

[QUOTE=Paramud;23659061]You go have fun with your theoretical science while the real scientists work. :science:[/QUOTE] Care to name a 'real' science? 50 quid says it still practises under a theoretical framework - all sciences do.

I don't even get quantum mechanics it's like saying "this computer can do magic, because we say it can" and this is somehow science

My mind was blown just reading the thread title.

[QUOTE=Jzzb;23661397]I don't even get quantum mechanics it's like saying "this computer can do magic, because we say it can" and this is somehow science[/QUOTE] i wish i could convince myself to make an analogy and believe that its valid right after stating that i dont understand what my analogy is about in the first place.

[QUOTE=Kade;23661210]Care to name a 'real' science? 50 quid says it still practises under a theoretical framework - all sciences do.[/QUOTE] 100 actual monies says it isn't only theoretical speculations with no testable evidence.

[QUOTE=Paramud;23656390][b][i]Theoretical[/i][/b] science. :colbert:[/QUOTE] Since you're retarded allow me to define theory and hypothesis for you. S: (n) theory (a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena) "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses"; "true in fact and theory" S: (n) hypothesis, possibility, theory (a tentative insight into the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena) "a scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory"; "he proposed a fresh theory of alkalis that later was accepted in chemical practices" Thank you Princeton for your web definitions. Theory is based on fact and scientific experimentation i.e the atomic theory Hypothesis is just an idea with no verification at all as of yet

You should be in the debate team. You're so good at it.

[QUOTE=Paramud;23661603]100 actual monies says it isn't only theoretical speculations with no testable evidence.[/QUOTE] Biology was once theory, they used to believe in spontaneous generation where you left maggots outside and over night they would turn into mice and rats. Then someone came along and said "guys!! okay what id, now what if, there were tiny little animals so small we couldn't see them?" He probably got laughed out of the joint, then he used a microscope to see em and pimp slapped all them ho's At that point, biology became a basic theory.

[QUOTE=bravehat;23661838][img]http://loveforlife.com.au/files/strawman2.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Nice straw man bro.

[QUOTE=Run&Gun12;23620511]I still don't understand. Guess I'm not destined to be a quantum physician... :sigh:[/QUOTE] Quantum doc!? [img]http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~faria/Images/DocEmmettBrown_1985.JPG[/img] GREAT SCOTT!

[QUOTE=Paramud;23661972]Nice straw man bro.[/QUOTE] Nice, dodging the argument that all sciences are theories and cannot be proven and are entirely based on theories as a straw man cause you know you're wrong. Real nice.

So this means, you can kill yourself grandfather and go back to the present, but as far as time is concerned, your parents don't exist but you do anyway because they did in an alternate time?

[QUOTE=bravehat;23662108]Nice, dodging the argument that all sciences are theories and cannot be proven and are entirely based on theories as a straw man cause you know you're wrong. Real nice.[/QUOTE] Yes, theoretical science is [b]technically[/b] a science, and yes, theories play a large part in scientific advancement, but in theoretical science you can come up with any bullshit idea and have it honestly considered. And most of the time people just accept it as a fact when there's more often than not absolutely no evidence besides the fact that it "[b]might[/b] be true."

Does that also mean you'll never get to see them again because they don't exist in your new timeline, and they'll never see you again because you went to a different timeline? :ohdear: [editline]08:48AM[/editline] Ow, my automerge.

[QUOTE=Paramud;23662148]Yes, theoretical science is [b]technically[/b] a science, and yes, theories play a large part in scientific advancement, but in theoretical science you can come up with any bullshit idea and have it honestly considered. And most of the time people just accept it as a fact when there's more often than not absolutely no evidence besides the fact that it "[b]might[/b] be true."[/QUOTE] So you're saying we should stop hypothesising and testing them and creating new theories from that? Sounds like you're promoting scientific stagnation bro. And dude Relativity suggested black holes could be real, people cried bull shit, and we found them. What is only hypothesis and theory just now, very well may turn out to be true, we just aren't sure yet.

[QUOTE=bravehat;23662310]So you're saying we should stop hypothesising and testing them and creating new theories from that? Sounds like you're promoting scientific stagnation bro.[/quote] No. [quote]And dude Relativity suggested black holes could be real, people cried bull shit, and we found them.[/quote] You tried that straw man already. [quote]What is only hypothesis and theory just now, very well may turn out to be true, we just aren't sure yet.[/QUOTE] Well until we perfect quantum time travel and find people who hate their grandfathers and people deem that the risk of time travel is one worth taking, then you can start. Until then, enjoy playing with your My First Chemistry Sets.

The article yaps about post selection but it never explains what it actually is... "POSTSELECTION IS WHEN YOU DSFKJMKFLSDJKLSDSD AND IT POSTSELECTS AND THEN ITS TRUE" wat They explain the concept they try to explain with the concept they're explaining...

[QUOTE=Paramud;23662356]Well until we perfect quantum time travel and find people who hate their grandfathers and people deem that the risk of time travel is one worth taking, then you can start. Until then, enjoy playing with your My First Chemistry Sets.[/QUOTE] "We don't have the technology to do it so lets not think about it at all."

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;23662433]"We don't have the technology to do it so lets not think about it at all."[/QUOTE] Again, no. We don't have commercial spaceships but you don't see me telling people I have the solution to heating issues aboard the damn things.

[QUOTE=Paramud;23662502]Again, no. We don't have commercial spaceships but you don't see me telling people I have the solution to heating issues aboard the damn things.[/QUOTE] Your lack of any kind of logic is appalling. Whoever taught you in school should be ashamed of themselves. My 14 year old nephew understands the difference between theory and hypothesis better than you do. He's probably much better at trolling too.

[QUOTE=Paramud;23662502]Again, no. We don't have commercial spaceships but you don't see me telling people I have the solution to heating issues aboard the damn things.[/QUOTE] Well you probably should, solving the heating issues before we end up in the ship in space would be pretty helpful.

[QUOTE=Kade;23663478]My 14 year old nephew understands the difference between theory and hypothesis better than you do.[/QUOTE] That is entirely not my issue with theoretical science.

[QUOTE=Paramud;23664183]That is entirely not my issue with theoretical science.[/QUOTE] How can you have [I]ANY[/I] issue with 'theoretical science' when you don't even know what 'theoretical science' is? To be honest I don't really get when you draw the distinction. You don't 'believe' in QM right? So you think that the LHC, the largest machine ever built by man, is a redundant device? After all, the LHC studies quantum mechanics, which is a theoretical science right? Even though the smartest minds on the planet have testified to its relevance, Paramud off facepunch must be right. Way to go sport. You outsmarted them all.

[QUOTE=Occlusion;23621520]You know this from extensive research into theoretical quantum physics do you? [/QUOTE] I know this from Back to the Future.

[QUOTE=Kade;23666238]How can you have [I]ANY[/I] issue with 'theoretical science' when you don't even know what 'theoretical science' is?[/quote] I do know what it is? [quote]To be honest I don't really get when you draw the distinction. You don't 'believe' in QM right?[/quote] Are you just pulling these assumptions out of your ass now? [quote]So you think that the LHC, the largest machine ever built by man, is a redundant device?[/quote] Yeah, you're definately pulling them out of your ass. [quote]After all, the LHC studies quantum mechanics, which is a theoretical science right?[/quote] I didn't realize that the Collider could actually study anything. Is it taking college classes, or is it learning from the scientists working on it? [quote]Even though the smartest minds on the planet have testified to its relevance, Paramud off facepunch must be right. Way to go sport. You outsmarted them all.[/QUOTE] Now you're getting it.

[QUOTE=Paramud;23674125]I do know what it is? Are you just pulling these assumptions out of your ass now? Yeah, you're definately pulling them out of your ass. I didn't realize that the Collider could actually study anything. Is it taking college classes, or is it learning from the scientists working on it? Now you're getting it.[/QUOTE] What is the distinction between science and theoretical science then? Name same 'real' sciences for us too while you're at it.

[QUOTE=Kade;23681674]What is the distinction between science and theoretical science then? Name same 'real' sciences for us too while you're at it.[/QUOTE] Science is a broad term covering all of the methods that one can use to attain knowledge and all of the specific areas of knowledge that one can research, while theoretical science is a specific area. If you want to call them "real" sciences, then the most important ones that come to mind would be biological, astronomical, physical, et cetera et cetera. Stop implying words into my mouth. I never called theoretical a fake science or said in any way that it was less important than any other scientific field.