Israeli intolerance shows up on Internet, in Government, and on the street - Polidicks

If we don't talk semantics, then we really shouldn't talk about speculations.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;27608576]The term ‘law’ probably wasn’t the best choice of word, maybe “rule” but arguing semantics is useless. In spite of that, the OPs point was to exhibit religious/racial exclusion. Regardless if it was a company that purchased that neighborhood, civilized/non-xenophobic nations have equal-housing laws. One of the comments stated, which I agreed with “What If Saudi-Financed Arabs Begin Buying in The Jewish Quarter, Would the Supreme Court ruling have been any different?”[/QUOTE] "Row, row, row your boat"

[QUOTE=ohadje;27608604]If we don't talk semantics, then we really shouldn't talk about speculations.[/QUOTE] Semantics as in exact defitions of words.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;27608652]Semantics as in exact defitions of words.[/QUOTE] There is a large difference between "rule" and "law" in this context. Actually, "rule" is grammatically incorrect in that sentence. It's obvious it wasn't a mistake, and the choice of words was deliberate.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;27608347]If you really think this, then it's probably you best keep out of any topics involving Israel or Palestine.[/QUOTE] Sorry but it is right. Or better yet why don't you stick a jewish state somewhere where it won't bother or uproot people like Africa, Australia or Siberia.

[QUOTE=PEn1s lol;27608797]Sorry but it is right. Or better yet why don't you stick a jewish state somewhere where it won't bother or uproot people like Africa, Australia or Siberia.[/QUOTE] Wow, you're a smart one. What makes you think the UN's solution would work? Actually don't bother answering this. Also, why don't you make a useful reply rather than some stupid comment not pertinent to the topic...

This is the reason my dads family came to Canada 30 years ago.

Seems pretty natural to me that one nation hates another when they have been fighting for the last 60 years, no?

The whole point of Israel was to help the many millions of displaced Jews from Europe live in a place they could call home. And now they act like entitled dicks. Nice.

[QUOTE=Mandalorian;27609846]The whole point of Israel was to help the many millions of displaced Jews from Europe live in a place they could call home. And now they act like entitled dicks. Nice.[/QUOTE] The problem is that there are already people living there.

[QUOTE=Crhem van der B;27609483]Seems pretty natural to me that one nation hates another when they have been fighting for the last 60 years, no?[/QUOTE] Try several thousand.

This is fucking sickening.

I wouldn't want to live on a street with the ultra-orthodox either.

[QUOTE=Thaard;27607637]If you look at most of OP's posts, it's against Israel. Biased much?[/QUOTE] State one good thing that Israel has done lately that makes them warrant a praise.

[QUOTE=Source;27621628]State one good thing that Israel has done lately that makes them warrant a praise.[/QUOTE] Sandy Bridge was developed in Haifa.

inb4 Hitler I told you so.

[QUOTE=Source;27621628]State one good thing that Israel has done lately that makes them warrant a praise.[/QUOTE] If you said Government, maybe, if you said it's people, you're not being fair.

[QUOTE=Source;27621628]State one good thing that Israel has done lately that makes them warrant a praise.[/QUOTE] Name one thing the Bush Administration did that warrants praise, France under Sarkozy or Russia under Yeltsin. It's easy to pick out shitty administrations and say they have done nothing good especially when it's so easy to ignore or spin any good they may have done. I can still think of a few. The first face-to-face negotiations with Mahmoud Abbas happened recently and although negotiations are being impeded by political bullshit, it's making progress. The change in tactics in the West Bank can also be seen as a plus with the precision strikes giving the fewest civilian casualties possible without sending in ground troops or not doing anything at all. Their occupation of the West Bank has given a great degree of stability allowing the much more moderate Fatah a chance to gain power over groups like Hamas and send them on their way to becoming a stable, independent state. They've also greatly improved relations with the Muslim countries around with peace and diplomatic relations with (almost) everyone and even a free trade agreement and military cooperation with Turkey. As a few other people have said, the government and people are separate. The people can do plenty that is worthy of praise and any criticism about them doing stupid shit should be directed at the government.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;27607299]Is this referring to orthodox Jews or Eastern Orthodox Christians?[/QUOTE] Orthodox Jews, because modern day Isreal breaks a lot of rules that the ultra-Orthodox believe in. I don't want to invoke Godwin's law over something that's the complete opposite, but since it's already been done in this thread, it would be the equivalent of average nazi citizens hating ultra-nazi citizens. Kind of hypocritical if you ask me.

[QUOTE=animephreak135;27624490]Orthodox Jews, because modern day Isreal breaks a lot of rules that the ultra-Orthodox believe in. I don't want to invoke Godwin's law over something that's the complete opposite, but since it's already been done in this thread, it would be the equivalent of average nazi citizens hating ultra-nazi citizens. Kind of hypocritical if you ask me.[/QUOTE] Dumbest comparison I've ever heard. Well done.

[QUOTE=ohadje;27624883]Dumbest comparison I've ever heard. Well done.[/QUOTE] I was giving an example of extremes, not comparing the Jews to the nazis. Knew someone would take the opportunity to purposely misconstrue what I said. I'll accomodate you this one time and explain. It's a situation where moderate proponents of a belief system have a distaste for extreme proponents of the same belief system. You can draw any belief system comparison you want for this situation. Extreme Catholics versus moderates, extreme proponents of creationism versus moderate proponents of creationism. In this sense, any logical comparison you come up with will be correct. You're freaking out because you saw the words "nazi", "comparison", "Jews" in the same post.

[QUOTE=animephreak135;27625933]I was giving an example of extremes, not comparing the Jews to the nazis. Knew someone would take the opportunity to purposely misconstrue what I said. I'll accomodate you this one time and explain. It's a situation where moderate proponents of a belief system have a distaste for extreme proponents of the same belief system. You can draw any belief system comparison you want for this situation. Extreme Catholics versus moderates, extreme proponents of creationism versus moderate proponents of creationism. In this sense, any logical comparison you come up with will be correct. You're freaking out because you saw the words "nazi", "comparison", "Jews" in the same post.[/QUOTE] Kind of like average Muslims and extremist Muslims?

So some Israelis have issues. It's still a better nation than most around the area.

Israel should stop it's bullshit, before shit hit's the fan.

[QUOTE=animephreak135;27625933]I was giving an example of extremes, not comparing the Jews to the nazis. Knew someone would take the opportunity to purposely misconstrue what I said. I'll accomodate you this one time and explain. It's a situation where moderate proponents of a belief system have a distaste for extreme proponents of the same belief system. You can draw any belief system comparison you want for this situation. Extreme Catholics versus moderates, extreme proponents of creationism versus moderate proponents of creationism. In this sense, any logical comparison you come up with will be correct. You're freaking out because you saw the words "nazi", "comparison", "Jews" in the same post.[/QUOTE] The problem is that not all Jews are religious or believers, so the analogy of "Extremely Nazi"-"Moderate Nazi" is incorrect, because there is no such dichotomy of "religious" to "slightly less religious" in the Jewish society. It is much more diverse. (Jews are an ethnic group)

[QUOTE=ohadje;27628085]The problem is that not all Jews are religious or believers, so the analogy of "Extremely Nazi"-"Moderate Nazi" is incorrect, because there is no such dichotomy of "religious" to "slightly less religious" in the Jewish society. It is much more diverse. (Jews are an ethnic group)[/QUOTE] I have absolutely no idea as to what you're on about. We were [i]exclusively[/i] talking about practicing Jews in Isreal that have a bold, outspoken distaste for ultra-Orthodox Jews. I don't see where or how you got confused, or the point at which you thought this was opinion based or a subject of debate.

[QUOTE=animephreak135;27628310]I have absolutely no idea as to what you're on about. We were [i]exclusively[/i] talking about [b]practicing Jews[/b] in Isreal that have a bold, outspoken distaste for ultra-Orthodox Jews. I don't see where or how you got confused, or the point at which you thought this was opinion based or a subject of debate.[/QUOTE] Perhaps that's what [i]you[/i] are talking about. The article speaks about Israeli Jews in general, whether they are practicing or not, atheist or traditional. Get things straight.

[QUOTE=Source;27621628]State one good thing that Israel has done lately that makes them warrant a praise.[/QUOTE] State one good thing Muslim countries done the last century. :smug:

[QUOTE=ohadje;27628828]Perhaps that's what [i]you[/i] are talking about. The article speaks about Israeli Jews in general, whether they are practicing or not, atheist or traditional. Get things straight.[/QUOTE] I know you're trolling, but still, come on. You need to pick a thread with a vague article that you can properly troll in. [quote=Article][b]rabbinical prohibitions[/b] against renting homes to "non-Jews"[/quote] [quote=Article][b]the religious Shas party[/b] now account for about one-third of the ruling coalition's seats in the parliament, or Knesset, and have emerged as key players in advocating a conservative agenda in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's coalition government.[/quote] [quote=Article]designed to instill [b]Jewish values[/b] in the government[/quote] [quote=Article]dozens of municipal [b]rabbis[/b] issued an edict against renting or selling real estate to non-Jews[/quote]

[QUOTE=animephreak135;27629768]I know you're trolling, but still, come on. You need to pick a thread with a vague article that you can properly troll in.[/QUOTE] [b]"the religious Shas party now account for about one-third of the ruling coalition's seats in the parliament, or Knesset, and have emerged as key players in advocating a conservative agenda in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's coalition government."[/b] That is incorrect. Currently, [url=http://www.knesset.gov.il/faction/eng/FactionPage_eng.asp?PG=2]Shas has only 11 members from its party in the parliament[/url], and considering the fact that you need at least 61 members for a coalition in the Knesset (there are 120 members total in the Israeli Parliament), the maximum percentage they can reach in any coalition is 16.67%. Also, about the so called "rabbinical prohibitions"- Just to let you know, a study made sometime around 2008 revealed that 51% of all Israeli Jews are secular, 30% traditional (not extremists), 10% Orthodox (More religious than the traditional group; Lean towards extremism), and 9% haredi (hardcore religious-extremists). Those rabbinical prohibitions are only taken seriously by all of the 9% that are haredi and some of the 10% that are Orthodox. I can't seem to find that study on the web, but I have seen it before. I even wrote down the figures, it's still on my computer.