• Brazilian diamond hints at vast water reserve deep inside Earth
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[QUOTE=frozensoda;44227367]So does that mean that the oil trapped in shale is liquid? I always assumed that they had to process it somehow. So this is more exciting from a scientific standpoint than a useful-for-humanity one then?[/QUOTE] The oil trapped in shale is different, it's entrapped in micro-cracks together with gas and water, a big reason why we can't use many shale deposits for oil is that it needs to be "cracked" enough for us to drive it out but not too "cracked" (aka porous) because well then it can't store it. The water in the mantle however is part of the crystal structure and only dehydrates if you apply really really high temperature and pressure and even then it just gets embeded in other crystals.
Just don't poke a hole in the South Pole or all the water will drain out :(
[QUOTE=frozensoda;44226901]Well, I mean I figure it's distributed in pockets and caves and stuff, not just like a solid layer of water. The earth is pretty big inside, I could totally see just massively huge cavities that filled with water, I'd assume its ocean and therefor salt water though. I want to see what OvB has to say about this[/QUOTE] there are no cavities any reasonable distance below the earth because at those pressures rock flows
[QUOTE=Fingers!!!;44226908]I can't wrap this around my head, this just isn't possible, is it? Wouldn't Earths' crust just like, crumble? I highly doubt it, even though I'm not a scientist/physicist this just seems like an exaggeration.[/QUOTE] What would it crumble into? Itself? It would make more caves, then we'd have an endless and infinite cycle of massacred physics and self regenerating rock layers.
This diamond is full of shit.
Just to clarify since there seems to be a lot of confusion in this thread - the "water" the article refers to is [I]not[/I] liquid water. The article is referring to negatively charged hydroxide ions trapped between molecules of ringwoodite, or attached to specific bonding sites [I]on[/I] ringwoodite. A hydroxide ion is basically a water molecule with one less hydrogen/proton. So, one atom of hydrogen (which is essentially just a proton+electron) and one of oxygen - hydroxide! Or hydroxyl. Hydroxide ions can easily acquire another hydrogen by reacting with acidic compounds to become water again. The article mentions the possibility of an "ocean" of water in the mantle, but it makes more sense to think of it as a significant [I]dispersion[/I] of hydroxides within the mantle, which are just one chemical step away from water. [URL="http://www.earth.northwestern.edu/research/jacobsen/pdfs/Ye2012-EoS-hydrous-ringwoodite-AmMin.pdf"]Source[/URL]. It wouldn't be viable to extract ringwoodite for its water content, even if you [I]could[/I] get it from the hundreds of miles of crust and mantle you'd have to go through. You'd have to break the crystal lattice of ringwoodite to get to the hydroxides, which would take a substantial amount of energy, and it would take even more energy to extract any hydroxides that are actually bonded to ringwoodite. And [I]THEN[/I] you'd need to protonate/acidify your hydroxides to get liquid water. It would be a very involved, expensive process. So, in short, no - this is [I]not[/I] a good source of fresh water. It's equally unlikely that life is present [I]anywhere[/I] in the mantle, even cellular life, due to the immense pressure and high temperatures expected below Earth's crust.
Sounds reasonable, though a massive underground network of oceans sounds SO Jules Verne, like 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea combined with Journey to the Centre of the Earth. Also it could be the domain of all the Deep Ones ever.
I've always wondered just how much is yet to be discovered in the mantle and crust, I mean the deepest we've ever bored is like what, 7 miles into the crust? That's like dipping a finger in the deep side of a pool. There's gotta be some incredible subterranean discoveries yet to be made.
prepare your anus' for the comeing invasion of crab people also this kinda reminds me of journey to the center of the earth
[QUOTE=sweetbro;44226974][/QUOTE] It's always locked in minerals. An underground ocean would be the most awesome thing ever.
Knew the Underdark was real.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;44226912]Any possibility of bacterial life?[/QUOTE] you realize that the existence of water in practically every natural environment will always harbor bacteria, right? literally more than 99% of all known bacteria in the world is contained in water
While it's not really scientifically probable, it would be so metal if something like Journey to the Centre of the Earth was a possibility.
So it looks like noahs flood did occur with all that hidden water under the earth! THE CREATIONISTS WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG!!!11
Now i want to be an asthenonaut. Seriously, it would be amazing to have another scientific frontier. If there are water-laden cave systems deep in the earths crust that opens up a fucktonne of possibilities.
Wait for the Young Earth Creationists to use this to justify their Noachian flood explanations.. [QUOTE=ultra_bright;44231633]So it looks like noahs flood did occur with all that hidden water under the earth! THE CREATIONISTS WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG!!!11[/QUOTE] I didn't see your post when I posted. Great minds, ey?
Open that shit up and cuthulu will come crawing out.
[QUOTE=Winters;44232910]Open that shit up and cuthulu will come crawing out.[/QUOTE] for all we know it could be Yog-Sothoth instead.
Who care about those fuckers when the Demon Sultan Azathoth comes to wreck our shit?
[QUOTE=Mingebox;44230482]It's always locked in minerals. An underground ocean would be the most awesome thing ever.[/QUOTE] That is constantly boiling. That's pretty metal.
What if theres a micro-universe on it. We can be gods for them.
If there is water down there, leave it a goddam alone, it will mess up the enviroment if it's taken to the surface.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;44226912]Any possibility of bacterial life?[/QUOTE] I hope we're immune.
[QUOTE=VOSK;44233315]That is constantly boiling. That's pretty metal.[/QUOTE] Naw. Water in great depths, even the stuff we use to pre-fill CO2 storages is more like really really solid honey.
I remember a scientific theory about this. Looks like it ain't all bullshit after all. [editline]17th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Winters;44232910]Open that shit up and cuthulu will come crawing out.[/QUOTE] Nah, thats like 10,000,000 Years when R'lyeh rises again. Its probably Azathoth.
Dig into it, and flood the Earth.
So the hollow earth theory was correct after all!
[QUOTE=Adarrek;44264911]So the hollow earth theory was correct after all![/QUOTE] Thats the one!
[QUOTE=Fingers!!!;44226908]I can't wrap this around my head, this just isn't possible, is it? Wouldn't Earths' crust just like, crumble? I highly doubt it, even though I'm not a scientist/physicist this just seems like an exaggeration.[/QUOTE] It seems incredibly easy. The oceans are a fucking tiny portion of the earth. Like 0.02% tiny. Edit: Alight, so it's part of a mineral structure, in that case then that's definitely a different deal than I imagined. I knew it wasn't obviously in collections, but not even porous rock is interesting.
Minerals that bear more water than our oceans? [B]what.[/b] That's fucking insane
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