Guy shoots neighbour in the dick for stealing his shit - Polidicks

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51144384]Well hey, you know when someone breaks into your house, just let it happen.[/QUOTE] The house next door to mine got broken into so we called the police and the guy went to jail. Much better alternative to gunning him down imo. [QUOTE=AaronM202;51144384]Let him steal all your shit and then potentially murder you because theres literally no fucking way you could possibly know if he will or not, its fine, you'll be morally justified.[/QUOTE] Except the guy knew it was his neighbour who had robbed him on several occasions without murdering him.

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144379]There's your problem. You're choosing to do what's easy over what's right. Yes, because making decisions based on what ifs are always the best ones.[/QUOTE] Alrighty then, have fun placing your life in the hands of an individual you only know because they are currently invading your place of residence. I'll enjoy not taking chances on what is as far as I know the only life I will ever have.

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144389]The house next door to mine got broken into so we called the police and the guy went to jail. Much better alternative to gunning him down imo.[/QUOTE] Now just imagine if he was breaking into your house and was looking to spill blood. The police don't instantly show up at your door when you dial 911. What would you do?

[QUOTE=Teratoma;51144393]Alrighty then, have fun placing your life in the hands of an individual you only know because they are currently invading your place of residence. I'll enjoy not taking chances on what is as far as I know the only life I will ever have.[/QUOTE] Alright, have fun pining away in a cell on your manslaughter charge, Mr. Freedom.

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144389]The house next door to mine got broken into so we called the police and the guy went to jail. Much better alternative to gunning him down imo. Except the guy knew it was his neighbour who had robbed him on several occasions without murdering him.[/QUOTE] Well he should count himself lucky the neighbor didnt have a grudge. [editline]3rd October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144403]Alright, have fun pining away in a cell on your manslaughter charge, Mr. Freedom.[/QUOTE] Why would he? Shooting someone in self defense during a home invasion isnt illegal. [editline]3rd October 2016[/editline] Why the fuck is it every time theres some story about a robbery or home invasion, people come out of the woodwork to demonize people in the US for daring to protect themselves and their homes? Like what the fuck, why should i trust a criminal breaking into my residence not to murder my ass.

[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;51144399]Now just imagine if he was breaking into your house and was looking to spill blood. The police don't instantly show up at your door when you dial 911. What would you do?[/QUOTE] If someone is trying to kill you its justifiable, but we all know this man was clearly not.

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144408]If someone is trying to kill you its justifiable, but we all know this man was clearly not.[/QUOTE] Uh, question: [b]HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU BE AWARE OF IF THEY INTEND TO HARM YOU OR NOT WHILE ITS HAPPENING.[/b]

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51144409]Uh, question: [b]HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU BE AWARE OF IF THEY INTEND TO HARM YOU OR NOT WHILE ITS HAPPENING.[/b][/QUOTE] Dude. I'm referring to the story. If his neighbour wanted to harm him he would have already done it. If I wanted to murder someone I wouldn't repeatedly break into their house to give them a friendly warning about it.

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144403]Alright, have fun pining away in a cell on your manslaughter charge, Mr. Freedom.[/QUOTE] I'll enjoy pining away in my bedroom free of charges. I am legally allowed to blow away a home invader. I don't know them, they broke into my house. I have zero idea of whether or not they are going to get down. I'd obviously give them a warning to get their ass on the ground, they either flee, get down, or get shot. Not happening any other way,

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144411]Dude. I'm referring to the story. If his neighbour wanted to harm him he would have already done it. If I wanted to murder someone I wouldn't repeatedly break into their house to give them a friendly warning about it.[/QUOTE] Theres no way he would know if that was going to change. You dont seem to understand the idea that someone could do harm to someone else while breaking into their home, regardless or in spite of them doing it before and not harming them. What if he had a gun? What if he was adamant on stealing from him this time even if it meant killing him? What the fuck then?

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144411]If I wanted to murder someone I wouldn't repeatedly break into their house to give them a friendly warning about it.[/QUOTE] You aren't other people, nor are you a telepath. Its generally good practice not to place your faith in somebody that has broken into your house before. Like, I get that taking a life is a huge fucking deal. But so is your own life, you can gamble and the individual might just be after your shit. But what if you lose?

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144408]If someone is trying to kill you its justifiable, but we all know this man was clearly not.[/QUOTE] But how would you know if he intends to kill you or not? A criminal isn't exactly gonna tell you what they're gonna do before they break in. [QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144403]Alright, have fun pining away in a cell on your manslaughter charge, Mr. Freedom.[/QUOTE] It's legal to use lethal force on someone that is breaking into your house or threatening you with a deadly weapon in Texas. [editline]now[/editline] Not to mention criminals don't exactly have morals on their mind when doing something like that. If killing you means getting away with stealing your shit then they probably wouldn't hesitate.

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144411]Dude. I'm referring to the story. If his neighbour wanted to harm him he would have already done it. If I wanted to murder someone I wouldn't repeatedly break into their house to give them a friendly warning about it.[/QUOTE] Have you ever heard of someone named Captain Hindsight? You sound a lot like him.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51144414]Theres no way he would know if that was going to change. You dont seem to understand the idea that someone could do harm to someone else while breaking into their home, regardless or in spite of them doing it before and not harming them. What if he had a gun? What if he was adamant on stealing from him this time even if it meant killing him? What the fuck then?[/QUOTE] Then leave your property and call the police. He knew it was his neighbour, so it was clearly going to be an impossible police effort to track down the thief. But nah your right, clearly shooting and possibly killing him is the much smarter option.

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144424]Then leave your property and call the police. He knew it was his neighbour, so it was clearly going to be an impossible police effort to track down the thief. But nah your right, clearly shooting and possibly killing him is the much smarter option.[/QUOTE] Hindsight is 20/20. How was he supposed to know that this time the intruder wasn't gonna try to kill him so he could get away with it?

The argument of the thief potentially being armed and dangerous is a valid one, but this [QUOTE=evilweazel;51143823]Pretty justified. Property is worth more than the guy trying to steal it, in my eyes. Car, TV, Jewelry, doesn't matter. My right to keep the shit I worked hard for overrides his right to walk out unharmed. If shooting him is the quickest, safest, and most sure way to make him stop, I don't see any reason not to go for it (after he has been warned to stop before the event even took place, to boot).[/QUOTE] is just disgusting. A human life is worth more than your TV.

[QUOTE=Sleepy Head;51144422]Have you ever heard of someone named Captain Hindsight? You sound a lot like him.[/QUOTE] Maybe I do, but you guys seem really paranoid.

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144424]Then leave your property and call the police. He knew it was his neighbour, so it was clearly going to be an impossible police effort to track down the thief. But nah your right, clearly shooting and possibly killing him is the much smarter option.[/QUOTE] Your whole non-violence approach is based on the idea that they are not there for you. Which you have conveniently neglected to talk about the entire time. What is going to happen if you were the target?

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144424]Then leave your property and call the police. He knew it was his neighbour, so it was clearly going to be an impossible police effort to track down the thief. But nah your right, clearly shooting and possibly killing him is the much smarter option.[/QUOTE] Fucking yes it is a smarter opinion. What if he had a gun and shot you while you tried to leave the house? Had a knife, chased you down and shanked you to death? Beat you with a bat? His fists? The moment he breaks into your house he's violating the law and your safety, he becomes a threat, and you are within your rights to neutralize this threat to ensure your own personal safety. Anything less is idiotic, stupid, [b]AND FUCKING DANGEROUS.[/b] I mean, enjoy getting stabbed or shot or beat to shit if the invader so decides, atleast you didnt harm the poor old law breaker!

Also, if you are looking for a less lethal option. Rubber bullets will totally put someone on their ass. Most of the time. I've thought about keeping them in my magazine but I dunno.

[QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;51144431]The argument of the thief potentially being armed and dangerous is a valid one, but this is just disgusting. A human life is worth more than your TV.[/QUOTE] Yes because the life of some low-life scum that will probably do the same thing over and over again is worth more than something you possibly worked for years to acquire just so he could pawn it off.

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144432]Maybe I do, but you guys seem really paranoid.[/QUOTE] Im sorry that if someone breaks into my home with the intent to steal at the very least and MURDER ME at the very most, that im perfectly willing to break his ass in two with whatever means necessary so i live another day. I wasnt aware that was paranoia, i thought that was part of the human survival instinct which has kept us alive and on top of the food chain for thousands of years.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51144444]Im sorry that if someone breaks into my home with the intent to steal at the very least and MURDER ME at the very most, that im perfectly willing to break his ass in two with whatever means necessary so i live another day. I wasnt aware that was paranoia, i thought that was part of the human survival instinct which has kept us alive and on top of the food chain for thousands of years.[/QUOTE] I have no issue with you protecting yourself if it's NECESSARY, but it's pretty clear that it wasn't in this case.

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144454]I have no issue with you protecting yourself if it's NECESSARY, but it's pretty clear that it wasn't in this case.[/QUOTE] Yes because one break-in case applies to all of them. Again, how was he supposed to know whether or not the intruder would use lethal force?

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144454]I have no issue with you protecting yourself if it's NECESSARY, but it's pretty clear that it wasn't in this case.[/QUOTE] IN. [b][i][highlight]HINDSIGHT.[/highlight][/i][/b] And even then, he could have, he could have a gun on him, he could have just gone after him with his bare hands if he wanted to. There is NO FUCKING WAY you could know WHEN ITS HAPPENING. Why would you [b]EVER[/b] give a criminal who's already presumably damaged your home by breaking in the benefit of the doubt in regards to harming you? Are you legitimately suicidal?

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144379]Yes, because making decisions based on what ifs are always the best ones.[/QUOTE] it is perfectly reasonable to make decisions based on what-ifs, we do it all the time especially when preparing for situations.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51144458]IN. [b][i][highlight]HINDSIGHT.[/highlight][/i][/b] And even then, he could have, he could have a gun on him, he could have just gone after him with his bare hands if he wanted to. There is NO FUCKING WAY you could know WHEN ITS HAPPENING. Why would you [b]EVER[/b] give a criminal who's already presumably damaged your home by breaking in the benefit of the doubt in regards to harming you? Are you legitimately suicidal?[/QUOTE] My first instinct isn't to hunt down and engage the burglar in combat. If I can I'd rather flee my home or hide and then call the police, as it is a significantly safer option. Trying to fight a burglar is a last resort.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51144469]it is perfectly reasonable to make decisions based on what-ifs, we do it all the time especially when preparing for situations.[/QUOTE] It varies from situation. In a situation where an individual already presents a very real threat to you, and you have no idea whether or not they will attack. Its better to stay safe and shoot them.

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144472]My first instinct isn't to hunt down and engage the burglar in combat. If I can I'd rather flee my home or hide and then call the police, as it is a significantly safer option. Trying to fight a burglar is a last resort.[/QUOTE] if that is your first instinct then that is your first instinct, not everybody thinks the same way.

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144472]My first instinct isn't to hunt down and engage the burglar in combat. If I can I'd rather flee my home or hide and then call the police, as it is a significantly safer option. Trying to fight a burglar is a last resort.[/QUOTE] It's not fighting if you shoot him. It's basically an instant win.