• Guy shoots neighbour in the dick for stealing his shit
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[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;51144477]It's not fighting if you shoot him. It's basically an instant win.[/QUOTE] Not gonna lie though, if they shot back I am gonna gtfo like a motherfucker and take shelter outside. Fuck getting into an indoor gunfight.
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;51144477]It's not fighting if you shoot him. It's basically an instant win.[/QUOTE] Better not miss if he's armed because then he has a reason to shoot you.
[QUOTE=Teratoma;51144483]Not gonna lie though, if they shot back I am gonna gtfo like a motherfucker and take shelter outside. Fuck getting into an indoor gunfight.[/QUOTE] Aim for the neck. A bullet is waaaaay faster than someone's reaction time and severing the spinal cord will guarantee they can't fire back.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144486]Better not miss if he's armed because then he has a reason to shoot you.[/QUOTE] What if he's there to shoot you in the first place?
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;51144487]Aim for the neck. A bullet is waaaaay faster than someone's reaction time and severing the spinal cord will guarantee they can't fire back.[/QUOTE] the neck is a hard target to hit, you're better off aiming for center mass
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;51144440]Yes because the life of some low-life scum that will probably do the same thing over and over again is worth more than something you possibly worked for years to acquire just so he could pawn it off.[/QUOTE] I can't imagine being so lacking in sympathy to think that stealing from somebody's house makes a person literally worth less than a television. Like, do you really think of humanity [I]that[/I] cynically and simplistically? That someone is just an inherently bad person that can never change and is better off dead because they tried to steal from your house? Even disregarding the societal pressures that can lead people to commit these crimes, I just can't understand how somebody can value life so little. Like, I see people calling for blood when they hear of a person doing something truly abhorrent like murder, and I can at least see where they're coming from. A person has caused immense suffering and people want a punishment that fits that crime. I don't think that killing that person is the best way to go about things, but I can understand that mindset. I can understand where the anger is coming from and I can understand what logic there is behind it. But this? Killing someone over a TV? It seems almost sociopathic. Again, I'm not talking about the situation in the article here, only the situation presented by evilweazel where they would rather take a human life than risk losing their television.
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;51144487]Aim for the neck. A bullet is waaaaay faster than someone's reaction time and severing the spinal cord will guarantee they can't fire back.[/QUOTE] Eh, I live alone now. So I am getting a surveillance system for the house. Mainly due to being gone for long periods of time. But I imagine it'd lend itself to such a scenario as well. As for aiming, odds are if your house is getting broken into its dark. And even with illuminated sights its still gonna be a pita to hit your target directly in the spinal cord. Was trained to aim center mass, which is honestly a way better spot. [editline]2nd October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51144490]the neck is a hard target to hit, you're better off aiming for center mass[/QUOTE] I like you.
[QUOTE=Teratoma;51144499]Eh, I live alone now. So I am getting a surveillance system for the house. Mainly due to being gone for long periods of time. But I imagine it'd lend itself to such a scenario as well. As for aiming, odds are if your house is getting broken into its dark. And even with illuminated sights its still gonna be a pita to hit your target directly in the spinal cord. Was trained to aim center mass, which is honestly a way better spot. [editline]2nd October 2016[/editline] I like you.[/QUOTE] Probably should clarify if you're good enough of a shot and are close enough aiming for the neck would guarantee they couldn't react. [editline]now[/editline] Shotgun slugs are also effective and have a really wide surface area. [editline]3rd October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Mort Stroodle;51144492]I can't imagine being so lacking in sympathy to think that stealing from somebody's house makes a person literally worth less than a television. Like, do you really think of humanity [I]that[/I] cynically and simplistically? That someone is just an inherently bad person that can never change and is better off dead because they tried to steal from your house? Even disregarding the societal pressures that can lead people to commit these crimes, I just can't understand how somebody can value life so little. Like, I see people calling for blood when they hear of a person doing something truly abhorrent like murder, and I can at least see where they're coming from. A person has caused immense suffering and people want a punishment that fits that crime. I don't think that killing that person is the best way to go about things, but I can understand that mindset. I can understand where the anger is coming from and I can understand what logic there is behind it. But this? Killing someone over a TV? It seems almost sociopathic. Again, I'm not talking about the situation in the article here, only the situation presented by evilweazel where they would rather take a human life than risk losing their television.[/QUOTE] I'd rather shoot someone and get it over with rather than risk losing my possessions and more importantly my life.
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;51144503]Probably should clarify if you're good enough of a shot and are close enough aiming for the neck would guarantee they couldn't react. [editline]now[/editline] Shotgun slugs are also effective and have a really wide surface area.[/QUOTE] Well another thing, afaik shotguns are good at over penetrating as well. Thankfully my house is brick on the outside so its not really an issue for me, but that may not be so for many other people.
[QUOTE=Teratoma;51144509]Well another thing, afaik shotguns are good at over penetrating as well. Thankfully my house is brick on the outside so its not really an issue for me, but that may not be so for many other people.[/QUOTE] Better it be a single overpenetrating projectile than a bunch of pellets in something like bird or buckshot. Anything at and over .45 ACP has a tendency to overpenetrate as well anyway.
There needs to be an unsaid thing that people who do not live America cannot comment on gun laws,rights, or incidents involving guns because an Aussie arguing that shooting an intruder to Americans is a stupid idea.
The guy acted in self defense, and the "escape your house" option isn't always viable, the robber could have been blocking the way out and had a weapon, until there's more details it's speculation. In any case, you should except something like that to happen if you invade someones house.
[QUOTE=RG4ORDR;51144522]There needs to be an unsaid thing that people who do not live America cannot comment on gun laws,rights, or incidents involving guns because an Aussie arguing that shooting an intruder to Americans is a stupid idea.[/QUOTE] I don't even think shooting an intruder in self-defence is a stupid idea. I just think that the way this case was handled was stupid and the whole mentality of it's better to gun down an intruder than flee and call the police is retarded. I understand I'm not American and can't fathom what crime is like over there, but the stuff I've been saying (such as engaging the burglar should be a last resort) is pretty much standard protocol in every other first world country. They might steal your television but I'm not going to risk my life or kill someone else over a fucking television. It's absolutely absurd.
[QUOTE=RG4ORDR;51144522]There needs to be an unsaid thing that people who do not live America cannot comment on gun laws,rights, or incidents involving guns because an Aussie arguing that shooting an intruder to Americans is a stupid idea.[/QUOTE] wow this is such a great idea i honestly dont see the issues with this [editline]3rd October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144424]Then leave your property and call the police. He knew it was his neighbour, so it was clearly going to be an impossible police effort to track down the thief. But nah your right, clearly shooting and possibly killing him is the much smarter option.[/QUOTE] your possessions and the burglar will be gone by the time the police arrive. you lost! try again? >(y/n):
[QUOTE=RG4ORDR;51144522]There needs to be an unsaid thing that people who do not live America cannot comment on gun laws,rights, or incidents involving guns because an Aussie arguing that shooting an intruder to Americans is a stupid idea.[/QUOTE] Why? Australia is even one of the better countries to have someone debate from as guns were banned relatively recently, and as a result can show the consequences of such changes.
[QUOTE=Recurracy;51144545] your possessions and the burglar will be gone by the time the police arrive. you lost! try again? >(y/n):[/QUOTE] "T-that's fine, I'll just get more if it means sparing a life. <:3" - Said the 17 year old child who has never had to work a day in his life.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51143773]No they don't. They deserve jail time, not getting castrated by a gun. There are much better ways this could have been handled.[/QUOTE] There are always better ways, until it's your home they get into. Then they deserve to get dick-shot.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51143773]No they don't. They deserve jail time, not getting castrated by a gun. There are much better ways this could have been handled.[/QUOTE] If i lived in America, I would have done the same. People there are more crazy on average, so you dont know whether a swooper or a serious thug enters your premises.
My only problem with this is you should never shoot a man in his dick.
You gotta understand that the dude got shot not because the neighbor just decided that he had enough of it and went up to the dude and shot him but because the dude tried it again and was in the middle of it.
I'm sorry but this first came to to mind: [video=youtube;qBCDY5XhZng]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBCDY5XhZng[/video] In all seriousness though, it's a shame the guy got shot where he did but when you play a stupid game like burglary you win stupid prizes. It's not as if the guy shot him, took him prisoner and started torturing him or anything.
[QUOTE=hakimhakim;51144659]There are always better ways, until it's your home they get into. Then they deserve to get dick-shot.[/QUOTE] i'm kinda worried that nobody tried those better ways before he broke into this house. if this guy was a known burglar by the neighborhood, including the guy who shot him, then why hasn't he been arrested or anything yet?
If I was the guy's neighbor I would have come over to also shoot him in the dick.
[quote]Police have yet to identify the suspect or the[B] homeowner[/B] at this time[/quote] I can understand the suspect, but did they ever think of looking at the fucking letterbox? :v:
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51143733]How is shooting someone justified? Seems a bit extreme to me.[/QUOTE] Don't argue with americans and guns, it's not worth it.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144432]Maybe I do, but you guys seem really paranoid.[/QUOTE] While my home has never been invaded, I've experienced audio hallucinations that have caused me to [I]think[/I] someone was invading my home multiple times, and I must say this. If somebody is breaking into your home, you have every fucking right to be paranoid. That shit's scary as fuck and it's more often than not a better idea to rely on impulse reactions rather than leaving it to the invader's good will to apologise and leave. If somebody is invading my home I'm gonna want to prioritise my own safety and worry about the repercussions of shooting the guy in the dick [I]after[/I] I know I am safe. If I prioritised doing the "ethical" thing in a similar situation, I could have a knife in my throat and the guy would've cleared up any trace of his presence, robbed my house of anything at all valuable, fled to the other side of the country and changed his identity before my body even gets found.
[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;51145026]Don't argue with americans and guns, it's not worth it.[/QUOTE] You're goddamn right
[QUOTE=CunningHam;51145039]Stupid Americans, am i right?[/QUOTE] Not americans per say but the backwards logic that everyone should just solve everything by pulling out a gun. You don't live in the Wild West no more and there are plenty of other ways this could've been solved. I can't say I feel sorry for the burglar, but then again we can't just shoot everyone in the dick. There is a system but it only works if people actually use it.
[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;51145078]Not americans per say but the backwards logic that everyone should just solve everything by pulling out a gun. You don't live in the Wild West no more and there are plenty of other ways this could've been solved. I can't say I feel sorry for the burglar, but then again we can't just shoot everyone in the dick. There is a system but it only works if people actually use it.[/QUOTE] Are the burglars working in this system of yours? "Sir I don't believe you are burglarizing me within regulation"
They don't work with it. They get worked by it. It's called the Justice Department. Either way I've said what I wanted to say and as someone recommended, I'll refrain from commenting this further.
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