Guy shoots neighbour in the dick for stealing his shit
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[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51143773]No they don't. They deserve jail time, not getting castrated by a gun. There are much better ways this could have been handled.[/QUOTE]
I'm willing to bet this guy is going to learn more from being shot in the dick than he ever would from being in jail. He'll have a constant reminder in his pants that he shouldn't break the law. Not saying it should have happened.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;51146351]This is why shooting to wound is not a thing you're supposed to do. Either you're in fear for your life, in which case you shoot to kill, or you're not in fear for your life, in which case you do not shoot at all.
Sometimes after a fatal shooting you'll hear people say "Couldn't he just shoot him in the leg or something?". No you can't because that's maiming or torturing someone. It implies that since you do not feel the need to kill this person, you are just shooting them to inflict pain.[/QUOTE]
Shooting people in the leg or arm also stands just as much chance of killing somebody if an artery or vein gets hit, just to add on to on top of this.
[QUOTE=riki2cool;51146142]Damn it feels good to not live in America[/QUOTE]
God i am so fucking tired of this ignorant patronizing bullshit.
So many people are conflating their countries' laws and their opinions of what is justifiable with what is actually justifiable under US Federal and State laws.
This is 100% justified under Texas law and probably would be in several more states
edit: and tbh, in that situation I would probably holler and if he makes any moves other than turning tail and booking ass because someone is home, he is getting shot.
Way I see it is the guy is justified in his shooting but the thieving neighbour didn't deserve to be shot in the dick. Those aren't contrary statements.
why can't people shut the hell up about american people shooting to defend themselve's do people seriously think that criminals give a shit about anything and that sending them to jail is really going to change anything? The answer is no it won't a very small percent of people ever change when going to jail. In fact they come out exactly the same as they went in. Jail won't change people, people change people.
[QUOTE=XenArtifact;51146798] Jail won't change people, people change people.[/QUOTE]
That might just be the most bizarre mutation of "Guns dont kill people, people kill people" ive heard.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;51146840]That might just be the most bizarre mutation of "Guns dont kill people, people kill people" ive heard.[/QUOTE]
i'm not intending for it to be a "mutation" it's merely what actually happens when people go to prison they come out and go back in not changing one fucking bit.
[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;51146324]Norway had the biggest mass shooting ever perpetuated by a lone gunman 5 years ago, don't act like it's the epitome of all american problems.[/QUOTE]
... Which happened once. Meanwhile in the US of A there's shootings literally every week. You see the difference?
[QUOTE=XenArtifact;51146798]why can't people shut the hell up about american people shooting to defend themselve's do people seriously think that criminals give a shit about anything and that sending them to jail is really going to change anything? The answer is no it won't a very small percent of people ever change when going to jail. In fact they come out exactly the same as they went in. Jail won't change people, people change people.[/QUOTE]
jails [I]can[/I] change people, it's just that our jails in particular have a hard time managing it.
[QUOTE=Blazedol;51147017]jails [I]can[/I] change people, it's just that our jails in particular have a hard time managing it.[/QUOTE]
that's why i said a small percentage
[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;51146933]... Which happened once. Meanwhile in the US of A there's shootings literally every week. You see the difference?[/QUOTE]
Most of which is gang violence, and even if not are >5-10 people.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;51147068]Most of which is gang violence, and even if not are >5-10 people.[/QUOTE]
Seconded, i don't know where you're getting this notion that just randomly an American just goes on a mass murder spree like he's going on holiday. The majority of it is gang violence that's going to happen regardless, with several outliers like the article and things like PTSD, or topically BLM, etc. Most of these things are only a handful of people, not these tens and hundreds of casualties dude snapped sorta deals like people seem to believe. You'd be foolish for believing that.
Not to mention all the unreported, especially at the national level, crimes that have been stopped or prevented by armed civilians. There's even a restaurant in my city that offers a discount to people who carry because someone who did stopped a robbery there. But you don't want to hear that, just "lol mericans and their guns," right?
[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;51146933]... Which happened once. Meanwhile in the US of A there's shootings literally every week. You see the difference?[/QUOTE]
Norway population: 5M - 14/km
Sweden population: 9.5M - 21/km
USA population: 316M - 35/km
The US only [i]kinda[/I] has more people around. We [I]kinda[/I] have a different culture. We [I]kinda[/I] have a different way of doing things. The US is simply more violent because of guns. And thats not a big deal.
The US only has 3x the gun violence rate of Norway or Sweden despite the differences. They're not as far apart as you think.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144472]My first instinct isn't to hunt down and engage the burglar in combat. If I can I'd rather flee my home or hide and then call the police, as it is a significantly safer option. Trying to fight a burglar is a last resort.[/QUOTE]
What is with so many fpers not having any back bone? You run from the first sign of a fight? Could you imagine what it'd be like if everyone had your attitude?
You're 100% right it was a extreme, but duck dude, we live in an extreme world, if you run from everything you aren't gonna get anywhere.
Sometimes a extreme answer is what needed. Don't sit there and act like you'd be morally higher than this guy and you wouldn't defend your castle.
Extreme actions call for extreme answers, and this guy got his answer in the form of a bullet.
Jail time? Pssh, have you seen how long rapaists get here? You think robbery is gonna be that long? Son, get real.
[editline]3rd October 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Code3Response;51147302]Norway population: 5M - 14/km
Sweden population: 9.5M - 21/km
USA population: 316M - 35/km
The US only [i]kinda[/I] has more people around. We [I]kinda[/I] have a different culture. We [I]kinda[/I] have a different way of doing things. The US is simply more violent because of guns. And thats not a big deal.
The US only has 3x the gun violence rate of Norway or Sweden despite the differences. They're not as far apart as you think.[/QUOTE]
As well as the gun violence that is justified.
I'm glad people are finally gaining some sense and the kumbaya narrative of "just let the friendly home invader do as he pleases" is being phased out
[editline]4th October 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;51145026]Don't argue with americans and guns, it's not worth it.[/QUOTE]
And I support them fully, and apparently so do other Europeans in this thread, and people outside of Europe too. But nah none of that's real, it's all dem gosh darn americans and their silly guns, you just keep telling yourself that.
[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;51145026]Don't argue with americans and guns, it's not worth it.[/QUOTE]
because we know our country better than you do? your culture is not the same as ours, our system is different from yours. We can't simply do one thing without it impacting another why do you think gun bans have been pushed on the back burners a lot? Because first of all most criminals if not all have connections to what's called burner guns or "ghost" guns and throw them away or sell it to someone else for cheap and the cycle continues. We can't simply ban guns it could possibly end in a catastrophic result. It's not a simple issue and i wish people from outside the U.S. would stop acting like one portion of their system would 100% work in our system. Stop and think about how our system parts are implemented it's not as cut and dry as you think it is.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51144424]Then leave your property and call the police. He knew it was his neighbour, so it was clearly going to be an impossible police effort to track down the thief. But nah your right, clearly shooting and possibly killing him is the much smarter option.[/QUOTE]
(A) Because that apparently worked so well for him in the past.
(B) "Leave your property" is a shit plan because you know your property, you can fortify yourself in your property, create a choke point, and have the upper hand at eliminating the threat as a result. Leaving your property only makes you more vulnerable.
(C) Perhaps this has changed in 2 years, but in 2014 police response in Houston TX for "potentially life-threatening calls" was meeting it's under 6 minute goal 73% of the time, which sounds great until you consider how long 6 minutes is when someone has/is breaking into your home. A lot can happen in even 30 seconds, let alone 6 minutes. ([url=http://www.click2houston.com/news/how-fast-is-houston-police-responding-to-all-calls-for-help]Source[/url]).
More generally, in 2007 nationwide only 25% of "crimes of violence" saw police on scene within 5 minutes. And again, seconds can be the difference between being dead or not, let alone minutes. ([url=http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus07.pdf]Source, pg. 115[/url]).
Waiting for the police is leaving if you live or die up to luck. Luck that the intruder doesn't want to harm you, or that they can't find you, or that the police arrive in time, etc... Is it that surprising that people would rather take their life into their own hands and neutralize the threat themselves, rather than hoping things just go their way. Nevermind the potential loss of property, which for some can be significant in of itself.
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