I did nazi the funny side of this, anne frank-ly it was out of mein kampf-ert zone.
[QUOTE=Polyethylene;34522581]A lot of Germans are desensitized to WWII and the whole holocaust thing. :/[/QUOTE]
Nohohohohoho not at all.
Who cares?
[editline]3rd February 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Reds;34523004]He's a flag maker, I think he can get a free pass on this one. It's just a symbol anyway.[/QUOTE]
Free pass? He should be able to put up whatever the hell he wants
it's just a fucking flag holy shit
[QUOTE=beanhead;34522586]maybe he should show more merchandise than just a swastika and SS flag?[/QUOTE]
He should showcase ashtrays with fake (or maybe real) ash in them. If you know what I mean.
I'm sorry if this is offensive, I couldn't help myself.
I somehow like the nazi flag...
People overreact.
[QUOTE=iFail;34522565]that's fucking retarded. mechandise? what the fuck kind of people are your customers?[/QUOTE]
i'd like a Nazi flag. it would look nice on my wall.
The Nazi flag looks fucking badass. Only problem is that the design got completely tarnished thanks to the Nazis and has become a symbol of hatred. Imagine in an alternate reality if they were good guys, I bet everyone would think it is a cool looking flag.
Still, flying Nazi/SS flags are in bad taste but hey, the guy can do whatever he wants.
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;34524866]It's been 67 years already
Can't we all grow up and stop thinking anyone who owns a Nazi flag, brandishes a Swastika (Nazi-related or not, when I lived in Qatar I saw some morons call out an Indian woman for wearing one on her dress during Diwali) or speaks about Hitler is a jew-hating psycho?[/QUOTE]
As generations pass, so too do the memories they held with them gradually fade away.
So the answer is yes, we will grow up and stop thinking about it as much as we do in the present.
One must consider, however, that World War II was perhaps the most significant event in the history of the civilized world.
These things also progress in phases. Like, when I was growing up in the 1960s and 70s, there was a tremendous amount of interest in the American Revolution, the Civil War, World War I, and World War II. World War I was reaching a peak, and World War II was just starting to take over from where it had been at towards the end of the 50s. The Civil War and American Revolution were big because their centennial and bicentennial anniversaries respectively were coming up.
If you wait just a few years, you'll see the exact same sort of thing for World War I's centennial anniversary. And later in the future the same will be true for World War II.
So, with all that in mind, I can't imagine us seeing any significant difference in how often it's brought up and mentioned for a very long time.
[editline]3rd February 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=K1ngo64;34525596]The Nazi flag looks fucking badass. Only problem is that the design got completely tarnished thanks to the Nazis and has become a symbol of hatred. Imagine in an alternate reality if they were good guys, I bet everyone would think it is a cool looking flag.[/QUOTE]
Well we can still fly the various flags of the German Empire and its entities without looking like Nazis.
Their naval jack was pretty damn awesome:
[img]http://smsmoewe.com/flags/smsfde01.gif[/img]
But white supremacists are people too :C
with hopes and dreams and feelings
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;34524866]It's been 67 years already
Can't we all grow up and stop thinking anyone who owns a Nazi flag, brandishes a Swastika (Nazi-related or not, when I lived in Qatar I saw some morons call out an Indian woman for wearing one on her dress during Diwali) or speaks about Hitler is a jew-hating psycho?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=K1ngo64;34525596]The Nazi flag looks fucking badass. Only problem is that the design got completely tarnished thanks to the Nazis and has become a symbol of hatred. Imagine in an alternate reality if they were good guys, I bet everyone would think it is a cool looking flag.
Still, flying Nazi/SS flags are in bad taste but hey, the guy can do whatever he wants.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Uncle Bourbon;34525101]it's just a fucking flag holy shit[/QUOTE]
You see, all this would be fine and well if the people that usually brandish swastikas didn't hold Nazi beliefs. But they do, and therein lies the problem.
People love excusing Nazi-sympathizers when they brandish symbols of hatred by saying that it's just an "image," it's just an "icon," that the "values and sentiments and ideas that are contained within it are merely there because of what people have attached to it," and that if it were "any different, people would have a totally different outlook on it." But this doesn't really [I]mean[/I] anything, because just like how they say that a symbol contains no intellectual properties other than the ones that people attach to it, would it not stand to reason that since the swastika is regarded as a symbol of hatred and violence and racism, that it has no place in modern society?
It's time to stop defending Nazis and Nazi-sympathizers' choices to wave around symbols that they [I]know[/I] are going to be perceived as offensive by the rest of society, and instead claim a modicum of responsibility by denouncing their actions as the surreptitious displays of bigotry that they are.
[QUOTE=Polyethylene;34522581]A lot of Germans are desensitized to WWII and the whole holocaust thing. :/[/QUOTE]
PFFFFFT
When you have African Germans who feel they're blamed for the holocaust as well...
[QUOTE=BigBoom;34524751]That's only if I get caught :3[/QUOTE]
Then we'll rat you out
Banned in Australi-
hey wait what the fuck
The amount of shit I don't give, seriously who cares, let the guy fly his flags.
[QUOTE=K1ngo64;34525596]The Nazi flag looks fucking badass. Only problem is that the design got completely tarnished thanks to the Nazis and has become a symbol of hatred. Imagine in an alternate reality if they were good guys, I bet everyone would think it is a cool looking flag.
Still, flying Nazi/SS flags are in bad taste but hey, the guy can do whatever he wants.[/QUOTE]
Actually the Swastika use to be a symbol of Peace, Harmony or Luck.
I have an amsterdam flag in my room
everyone thinks I smoke pot
I just like the city.
[QUOTE=Polyethylene;34522581]A lot of Germans are desensitized to WWII and the whole holocaust thing. :/[/QUOTE]
What the fuck are you talking about. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Most germans are too afraid to say Hitler or raise their hand above their shoulders when it's not explicitly non-flat. Germans are so fucking afraid of anything associated with Nazis they feel they have to ban most of it while simultaneously trying to get rid of their stupid guilt they have. It's pretty stupid, yeah, but what you're saying is absolute dogshit.
It should stay up.
rated zing for
[img]http://www.adl.org/hate_symbols/processed_new_images/ss-bolts.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=God's Pimp Hand;34525989]You see, all this would be fine and well if the people that usually brandish swastikas didn't hold Nazi beliefs. But they do, and therein lies the problem.
[/QUOTE]
using a sweeping generalization while talking about a group that used sweeping generalizations
[QUOTE=Numidium;34527108]What the fuck are you talking about. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Most germans are too afraid to say Hitler or raise their hand above their shoulders when it's not explicitly non-flat. Germans are so fucking afraid of anything associated with Nazis they feel they have to ban most of it while simultaneously trying to get rid of their stupid guilt they have. It's pretty stupid, yeah, but what you're saying is absolute dogshit.[/QUOTE]
I think that's what he meant by desensitized, they're so afraid of it that it's gotten to the point where it's natural to avoid it.
I did nazi that coming
[QUOTE=G3rman;34522626]Quite the opposite, its still pretty touchy. You know with it being illegal to have any Nazi-related paraphernalia and being censured for the occasional joke by older generations.
Still laughing at one of my teachers stories about it though. When it would snow in her town her father would always talk with his buddies at the biergarten about it and would say:
"Ja, the snow was *makes the Nazi salute* THIS high!"[/QUOTE]
No that's not your teacher's story thats a youth joke you can find in any german speaking country everywhere, and the german force that's supposed to work against neo-nazism is paying nazis to do what they are doing ("CI") without any results.
[QUOTE=RichardCQ;34522585]Flag enthusiasts?[/QUOTE]
"This is the greatest flag ever made..."
[QUOTE=Craig Willmore;34528196]using a sweeping generalization while talking about a group that used sweeping generalizations[/QUOTE]
Yes, westerners who openly display swastikas are most likely Nazi sympathizers. This isn't rocket science.
[QUOTE=God's Pimp Hand;34528603]Yes, westerners who openly display swastikas are most likely Nazi sympathizers. This isn't rocket science.[/QUOTE]
Cite me with the scientifically backed study you used to come to this conclusion
I didn't know the [B]ancient symbol of luck[/B] is something that would shock people. :eng101:
[QUOTE=Tampio;34529018]I didn't know the [B]ancient symbol of luck[/B] is something that would shock people. :eng101:[/QUOTE]
I have more problems with the SS flag IMO.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;34529189]I have more problems with the SS flag IMO.[/QUOTE]
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