Bernie Sanders supporters get a bad reputation online - Polidicks

[QUOTE=dai;49633395]"politician's supporters are radical and scary and also the internet makes them worse" states reporter who bravely delved into the comments on a number of facebook fan page posts you'll find the same garbage asshole fans of literally anything online, what exactly is new here, there's more online presence with younger people, to which he resonates with, and with that comes the butt end of the deal with how accessible every ounce of the group becomes[/QUOTE]There's an active misinformation campaign that's been going on for quite some time now in order to discredit Bernie Sanders and his supporters. [QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49633459]Bernie's promise of "free shit" isn't realistic. Yeah that shit could happen but someone has to pay for it, I don't think most Bernie supporters realize they're going to have to pay for it with heavily raised taxes.[/QUOTE]Where did you get this information from.

[QUOTE=Morbo!!!;49633352] People use derogatory words directed at people they don't like, what's your point?[/QUOTE] You're who OP is talking about.

I like how the only real way to discredit his movement and what Bernie's doing as a whole is to simply say "Oh his followers are really mean!" C'mon people. The media is just pulling at straws to come up with ANYTHING to help the establishment politicians he's running against. It's no wonder you see bullshit like this pop up.

"young people discovered to have a higher chance of being rude on the internet" although I support bernie out of the viable candidates we have this year, I can say there are a few bad apples in his support. Good thing im voting for the candidate, not who's fanbase is the best.

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;49633542]You're who OP is talking about.[/QUOTE] Umm no? I'm not resorting to slurs and I don't believe for a second Bernie can get everything he promises done within 4 years or without difficulty. It's what he represents that I'd be voting for; the notion that corporate interests shouldn't be one of the main deciding factors in how a country is run, and that your average joe should have basically a guarantee of a livable wage. The opposite of that ideal is how I see America now, and Hillary seems to be absolutely fine with maintaining the status quo since it directly benefits her and her benefactors.

Wasn't everyone riding Bernies dick a month ago or am I imaging shit

[QUOTE=kikomia;49633129]Being a Bernie Sanders supporter is enough to ruin any reputation you had.[/QUOTE] im sure as a macedonian you can shed plenty of light on the matter

Much of Sanders' and Trump's campaigns are emotion based. Sanders feeds off the hate for rich people, big corporations, etc. and Trump feeds off the frustration with illegal immigration and distrust for Muslims. When your campaign is based on emotion that emotion will overflow into everything else.

[QUOTE=Acid Rapper;49633649]Wasn't everyone riding Bernies dick a month ago or am I imaging shit[/QUOTE] threads in SH aren't indicative of Sanders' likability

Imagine not voting for a politician because their supporters are annoying. I'm not even a Sanders supporter, this is just dumb. [editline]29th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=sgman91;49633691]Much of Sanders' and Trump's campaigns are emotion based. Sanders feeds off the hate for rich people, big corporations, etc. and Trump feeds off the frustrating with illegal immigration and distrust for Muslims. When your campaign is based on emotion that emotion will overflow into everything else.[/QUOTE] You're trying to paint both with the same brush while giving Trump more legitimacy. I could easily reverse this and say that Sanders feeds off the frustration and distrust of corporations and Trump feeds off hate for illegal immigrants and Muslims. I haven't seen anything from the Sanders campaign that matches the vitriol, ignorance, and hatred I've seen from Trump. Just because both are pandering to their respective demographics doesn't make them the same, or even similar. Has any politician run a campaign that wasn't emotionally based?

[QUOTE=Raidyr;49633799]You're trying to paint both with the same brush while giving Trump more legitimacy. I could easily reverse this and say that Sanders feeds off the frustration and distrust of corporations and Trump feeds off hate for illegal immigrants and Muslims. I haven't seen anything from the Sanders campaign that matches the vitriol, ignorance, and hatred I've seen from Trump. Just because both are pandering to their respective demographics doesn't make them the same, or even similar. Has any politician run a campaign that wasn't emotionally based?[/QUOTE] You're right, I didn't use fair words. They both feed off hate. I despise Sanders' policies, but I think Trump has much worse character. I think Sanders is wrong, but I think Trump is bad. All candidate have emotion in their campaign, but those two, specifically, center themselves on it.

[QUOTE=sgman91;49633832]You're right, I didn't use fair words. They both feed off hate. I despise Sanders' policies, but I think Trump has much worse character. I think Sanders is wrong, but I think Trump is bad. All candidate have emotion in their campaign, but those two, specifically, center themselves on it.[/QUOTE]Why is Sander's wrong.

[QUOTE=Starlight 456;49633370]why act so hostile? i'm not taking any sides, i'm just saying it's wierd how people seem to jump all over hillary and sling slurs at her on a moments notice[/QUOTE] I'm not condoning hostility, but when it's the future of the United goddamn States it's no surprise people will attack whatever they view to be the wrong choice of leadership with everything they can.

[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49633459]Bernie's promise of "free shit" isn't realistic. Yeah that shit could happen but someone has to pay for it, I don't think most Bernie supporters realize they're going to have to pay for it with heavily raised taxes.[/QUOTE] At least in my case, I'd be happy paying higher taxes for social healthcare. I've looked over the estimated costs for socialized healthcare based on Bernie's plan, and it'd actually be cheaper than what I'm paying now. Plus, it'd mean the horrifically broken system that is Obamacare would be replaced with something more effective, which is great. But yeah, his promises definitely aren't realistic. I'm voting for him based on his positions on corporate interests, PACs and lobbying, abortion and women's healthcare, religion in politics, drug scheduling, etc., not because I necessarily think he's going to get all of it done, but because it'd be good to have that pressure pushing against those outside forces during his term. And, who knows, he may get a big landmark campaign promise passed somewhere in there. But that's really icing on the cake compared to all the small issues that could be fixed pretty easily if our president had a spine.

[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49633459]Bernie's promise of "free shit" isn't realistic. Yeah that shit could happen but someone has to pay for it, I don't think most Bernie supporters realize they're going to have to pay for it with heavily raised taxes.[/QUOTE] He didn't promise free shit. [editline]29th January 2016[/editline] Saying that his objectives aren't realistic and leaving it there doesn't communicate anything other than the fact that you are scared of a Sanders presidency. I'm not a supporter of his so I haven't followed everything so if you or someone else has some legit criticisms of his policies, I'd like to read them.

Sanders is going to raise everyones taxes, the only ones that will vote for him are Redditors, maybe facepunch which are a niche. Probably the poor. But the middle class isn't going to vote for him. [QUOTE=Britain;49633219]Yes. Exactly. You just answered your own question. Do you think Trump's old/christian/conservative base will be using social media to the same extent as Bernie's young/liberal/tech savvy base?[/QUOTE] I'd say there is more young voters on social media, especially Trump is popular among the chans.

Hilary fanatics are crazier. Worse than any FeeltheBern guy.

the fact that people who support hilary clinton actually exist blows my mind

The thing is, you can be a normal, sane person and support Sanders but you need to have some pretty extreme ideals in order to support Trump. It's literally like voting for a real life cartoon villain in real life

[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49633459]Bernie's promise of "free shit" isn't realistic. Yeah that shit could happen but someone has to pay for it, I don't think most Bernie supporters realize they're going to have to pay for it with heavily raised taxes.[/QUOTE] I will gladly pay higher taxes to push America into the 21st century.

[QUOTE=Britain;49633219]Yes. Exactly. You just answered your own question. Do you think Trump's old/christian/conservative base will be using social media to the same extent as Bernie's young/liberal/tech savvy base?[/QUOTE] Trump is more or less the /pol/ canidate so its not as if he has nowhere on the internet that loves him. Im convinced half of that is just taking the piss though.

[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49633459]Bernie's promise of "free shit" isn't realistic. Yeah that shit could happen but someone has to pay for it, I don't think most Bernie supporters realize they're going to have to pay for it with heavily raised taxes.[/QUOTE] There's [URL="https://berniesanders.com/issues/how-bernie-pays-for-his-proposals/"]an entire page on Bernie's campaign website[/URL] dedicated to explaining how all his proposals can be paid for. From what I can gather, there would indeed be a small tax increase to most people, but the heavily raised taxes portion really only applies to wealthy people and large companies using tax loopholes. Even though I wouldn't expect all of those to become reality, that's still a ton of "realistic" funding opportunities for many government programs to help out the general population, which would be very much worth the small tax increase imo.

[QUOTE=Mattk50;49634453]Trump is more or less the /pol/ canidate so its not as if he has nowhere on the internet that loves him. Im convinced half of that is just taking the piss though.[/QUOTE] That's the thing about /pol/ though, Poe's Law is practically a way of life over there.

[QUOTE=Starlight 456;49633152]Pretty on the spot, I say. Sanders supporters can get intense. There are people who throw around words like "bitch" and "cunt" and "whore" for Hillary while praising Sanders and it makes them look like slobbering cultists who violently hate anyone who isn't Glorious Bernie, Savior of The United States Ron Paul was like this too, Paul supports were the same "LAST HOPE FOR THE US RIGHT HERE" kind of crowd[/QUOTE] If you look at the right corners of each supporter base, the same can be said for absolutely any candidate

[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49633459]Bernie's promise of "free shit" isn't realistic. Yeah that shit could happen but someone has to pay for it, I don't think most Bernie supporters realize they're going to have to pay for it with heavily raised taxes.[/QUOTE] I never understood this logic. 1) There's a concise plan on Bernie's website, that apparently nobody opposed to him has so much as tried to look at it. He's not promising free shit. All of his plans sound realistic, and well thought out. Moreso than I've read from any other candidate. 2) The amount of money needed to fund public college and a public healthcare system divided between each tax-paying American... I'd be okay with paying a little more taxes so millions of people could afford a higher education and proper healthcare... [editline]30th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=sgman91;49633691]Much of Sanders' and Trump's campaigns are emotion based. Sanders feeds off the hate for rich people, big corporations, etc. and Trump feeds off the frustration with illegal immigration and distrust for Muslims. When your campaign is based on emotion that emotion will overflow into everything else.[/QUOTE] Now this is just... Please don't compare Bernie to Trump when Bernie has tried his best not to attack any other candidate and actually focus on the issues. He's running an issue-based campaign, not emotion. This rhetoric is counterproductive, just like saying he's only gaining support because he's a "fringe" candidates.

[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49633459]Bernie's promise of "free shit" isn't realistic. Yeah that shit could happen but someone has to pay for it, I don't think most Bernie supporters realize they're going to have to pay for it with heavily raised taxes.[/QUOTE] No I'm fairly certain most Sanders supporters acknowledge that. Now, how about you finally outline the merits to Trumps economic policy instead of dodging that in every thread.

[QUOTE=Eeshton;49634853]I never understood this logic. 1) There's a concise plan on Bernie's website, that apparently nobody opposed to him has so much as tried to look at it. He's not promising free shit. All of his plans sound realistic, and well thought out. Moreso than I've read from any other candidate. 2) The amount of money needed to fund public college and a public healthcare system divided between each tax-paying American... I'd be okay with paying a little more taxes so millions of people could afford a higher education and proper healthcare...[/QUOTE] You can't understand it because it's a made up talking point said by people who don't want Americans to have the "free shit."

[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;49634089]the fact that people who support hilary clinton actually exist blows my mind[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Rangergxi;49634059]Hilary fanatics are crazier. Worse than any FeeltheBern guy.[/QUOTE] The people I have witnessed who genuinely support Hilary seem to be caught up in the makebelieve world of politics we have going on right now. Honestly, when I look at all the candidates without Bernie, it seems like what was supposed to happen is: Trump being the loud-mouth that makes Jeb seem electable, or Trump wins causing it to be either Trump vs. Clinton, or Bush vs. Clinton. All of those candidates have funding from similar sources, I think it was something like 3-4 of the same companies being in the top 10 list of EACH of their PAC funding. So either way, the investing parties win because they had enough wealth to split between the two sides of the election. [editline]30th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Da Bomb76;49634890]You can't understand it because it's a made up talking point said by people who don't want Americans to have the "free shit."[/QUOTE] Why would any American want to restrict another American from proper healthcare and the ability to further your education without condemning your economic stability? I feel like the people who want this are people with economic stability and proper healthcare already....

[QUOTE=Fat White Lump;49633459]Bernie's promise of "free shit" isn't realistic. Yeah that shit could happen but someone has to pay for it, I don't think most Bernie supporters realize they're going to have to pay for it with heavily raised taxes.[/QUOTE] Bernie does not promise "free shit." That old criticism has been rolled out numerous times to justify a rigged economy and I would encourage you to not accept it. When a multimillion-dollar corporation receives a massive tax break, that's just free trade at work. But when ordinary people who can barely afford to put food on the table have an opportunity to save thousands of dollars on healthcare, that's [I]being entitled[/I]. Regarding tax increases, let's use the example of healthcare. The United States currently spends $3 billion a year on healthcare, so $30 billion over 10 years. The most recent plan for single-payer healthcare to come out of congress (which shouldn't be confused with Sanders' own proposal, but nonetheless is the best example at the moment) is estimated to cost $15 billion over 10 years. That's a savings of [B]$15 billion[/B] over 10 years, which will more than cover any increase in taxes for healthcare-related expenditures. Regarding the Clinton campaign: Hillary Clinton no longer supports single-payer healthcare, as she once did. Until 2013, she opposed gay marriage. And she seldom addresses campaign finance reform, for obvious reasons. The latter is arguably the most important issue for most Bernie supporters. And lastly, we acknowledge the coordinated smear campaign being waged against Bernie Sanders by CNN and other media outlets. Imagine what could be accomplished if the DNC redirected all those resources in a positive direction. So yeah, we're kind of angry. Maybe you should be as well.

[QUOTE=Shovel Mech;49633230]You guys are confused. Trump isn't targeting geriatric bible-thumpers, that's for Ted Cruz and Ben Carson. Trump's target audience is anyone dissatisfied with the GOP establishment, he's an outsider with a loud voice. He holds more appeal to younger voters than you would think.[/QUOTE] Eh you're sort of right, he's more focused on the low-income disenfranchised right-wing voter, which includes young people as well.