Three Dutch Marines captured by Gaddafi forces during an evacuation. Negotiations underway
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[QUOTE=Clavus;28416301]My country tried to copy the British evac, but failed miserably. This will not bring us in a better position, since the Netherlands will now have less bargaining power when it comes to imposing sanctions on Libya.
Also experts say that if they took a better equipped helicopter they would've noticed Gaddafi's forces before landing. There's been a big screw-up somewhere along the way.[/QUOTE]
except now they have the power to tell gaddafi to back the fuck down or get raped by NATO
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;28416732]except now they have the power to tell gaddafi to back the fuck down or get raped by NATO[/QUOTE]
I get the feeling that neither NATO nor the US feel like burning their fingers, and their economy, on another war.
[QUOTE=Clavus;28417064]I get the feeling that neither NATO nor the US feel like burning their fingers, and their economy, on another war.[/QUOTE]
Considering the state whats left of his armed forces, it wouldn't be that much of a war. We wouldn't have to bother with an occupation because the rebels would take over fairly quickly (but knowing my country they would "to ensure democracy happens").
[QUOTE=gman003-main;28413778]I'm pretty sure Denmark could pull off the rescue themselves, but I'm sure pretty much any other sane country in the world would help them if asked. Hell, even China is pulling out of Libya - shit is that bad over there.[/QUOTE]
Dutch poeple come from the Netherlands, not Denmark.
Noooo, our western comrades!
I'm sure, if he does anything funny, the entire western world will fuck him up
[QUOTE=ohadje;28415629]So greasy...[/QUOTE]
:q:
Lol probably going to step on a few toes here but..
Is it just me or do the Dutch keep repeatedly having fuck ups in their military operations?
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;28418710]Lol probably going to step on a few toes here but..
Is it just me or do the Dutch keep repeatedly having fuck ups in their military operations?[/QUOTE]
I know several other countries that fuck up all the time and never get complained about.
[QUOTE=Baldr;28418775]I know several other countries that fuck up all the time and never get complained about.[/QUOTE]
I mean it terms of military fuck ups, not like accidental civilian killings.
In Afghanistan the Dutch were pretty universally disliked by most of the coalition forces
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That said every country in that fucking war has a shitfinger story about another country's fuckups.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;28418800]I mean it terms of military fuck ups, not like accidental civilian killings.
In Afghanistan the Dutch were pretty universally disliked by most of the coalition forces[/QUOTE]
Those times were hardly accidental.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;28418800]I mean it terms of military fuck ups, not like accidental civilian killings.
In Afghanistan the Dutch were pretty universally disliked by most of the coalition forces
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That said every country in that fucking war has a shitfinger story about another country's fuckups.[/QUOTE]
They often say that the Dutch are cowards, especially the Australians, for some odd reason they want to spread some false assumptions and lies about our army that are mostly false.
Yes, there have been 2 or 3 incidents that could've been handled much better if you look back at it. For instance: Srebrenica back in Yugoslavia where the Dutch soldiers didn't get air support when they asked for it, meanwhile hundreds of enemy troops were heading for the small Dutch posts. I think none of you would've shot back.
Yeah, returning fire might have turned them around but most of you wouldn't even think about that if you were standing in their shoes. This and more incidents give the Dutch soldiers a bad name, mostly because of ignorance and bad media coverage. There are a lot of brave Dutch soldiers out there.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;28418800]I mean it terms of military fuck ups, not like accidental civilian killings.
In Afghanistan the Dutch were pretty universally disliked by most of the coalition forces
[editline]4th March 2011[/editline]
That said every country in that fucking war has a shitfinger story about another country's fuckups.[/QUOTE]
Noone seems to like tulips...
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;28418800]I mean it terms of military fuck ups, not like accidental civilian killings.
In Afghanistan the Dutch were pretty universally disliked by most of the coalition forces
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That said every country in that fucking war has a shitfinger story about another country's fuckups.[/QUOTE]
I never heard of this?
If the Dutch are so disliked then why did Obama whine about us leaving the middle east?
[QUOTE=Nekrietns;28419971]If the Dutch are so disliked then why did Obama whine about us leaving the middle east?[/QUOTE]
every dutch soldier carries a pack full of cheese (no surprise there) and the americans steal it, now without the dutch soldiers being there, there is no cheese
It is true that our cheese is worth betraying your comrades for...
We should use our wooden shoes as weapons too, if people try to steal our cheese.
Yeah, make sure they get splinters inside their anuses.
Dutch stereotypes everywhere up this bitch.
[QUOTE=Dlaor-guy;28420488]Dutch stereotypes everywhere up this bitch.[/QUOTE]
Nah only half the topic, would cost to much to do it for the entire topic.
[QUOTE=Nekrietns;28419971]If the Dutch are so disliked then why did Obama whine about us leaving the middle east?[/QUOTE]
It may come as a surprise to you that Obama is not a soldier.
My comment was in regards to the actual coalition troops in A-stan who disliked the Dutch for various reasons.
Examples:
Combined US SF and Australian SAS patrol is ambushed by 100+ taliban fighters firing heavy weapons. Australians request that the two dutch Apaches in the area support, the Apaches refuse, despite being able to engage and destroy from complete safety.
Numerous incidents from US soldiers and Australian Soldiers of Dutch soldiers firing mortars and artillery completely unobserved.
stuff like that.
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No need to get butthurt either, I'm not attacking your nation, I'm just pointing out theres been a lot of publicized fuck ups by the Dutch military in various capacities in recent years.
Every military has more than it's fair share of fuckups, that's a granted.
Nice topic about dudes that probably know something about that: [url]http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?188056-Australian-soldiers-left-for-dead-in-Afghanistan-by-Dutch-Apache-helicopters[/url]
Seems it was a hype for a book. And also: [url]http://www.theage.com.au/national/afghanistan-battle-bonds-brothers-in-arms-20090613-c6td.html?page=-1[/url]
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Anyway.
Even I and my dad are asking why the hell the send that helicopter really.
[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;28421104]It may come as a surprise to you that Obama is not a soldier.
My comment was in regards to the actual coalition troops in A-stan who disliked the Dutch for various reasons.
Examples:
Combined US SF and Australian SAS patrol is ambushed by 100+ taliban fighters firing heavy weapons. Australians request that the two dutch Apaches in the area support, the Apaches refuse, despite being able to engage and destroy from complete safety.
Numerous incidents from US soldiers and Australian Soldiers of Dutch soldiers firing mortars and artillery completely unobserved.
stuff like that.
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No need to get butthurt either, I'm not attacking your nation, I'm just pointing out theres been a lot of publicized fuck ups by the Dutch military in various capacities in recent years.
Every military has more than it's fair share of fuckups, that's a granted.[/QUOTE]
I see, that was a pretty bitch move on the Dutch soldier' part.
I didn't mean to come over as butthurt or angry. :v:
It's just fucking dumb to land in enemy zone though, even to evacuate.
im surprised gaddafi isnt dead yet
Of all of the nations that have fucked NATO countries over, this is the one I want to see get completely fucking rolled by US Forces.
[QUOTE=stupidass;28425762]Of all of the nations that have fucked NATO countries over, this is the one I want to see get completely fucking rolled by US Forces.[/QUOTE]
Why the Dutch? What did they ever do to you?
Oh wait, shit, did you mean Libya? I am :downs:
They are holding the 3 dutch soldiers for espionage now.
[QUOTE=taipan;28426924]They are holding the 3 dutch soldiers for espionage now.[/QUOTE]
And in most countries its punishable by death/execution. :ohdear:
Bit bullshit that you use a 30 year old helicopter that isn't really that stealthy (hint IT IS FUCKING LOUD).
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4UOL1eAZRs[/media]
[QUOTE=ohadje;28415629]So greasy...[/QUOTE]
:q:
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