• SSD prices continue to plunge
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[QUOTE=peepin;38882147]I'm sorry "Unless you cheap out and buy a OCZ"? Can you please tell me how OCZ SSDs are bad and for cheap people?[/QUOTE] Failure rates are in the 40 percent, TRIM bugs, lack of any QA
still remember the days of my 250mb harddrives.
This might be good for me since my external HDD died on me the other day, and I need extra space to record things with fraps with. :v:
[QUOTE=jordguitar;38882263]Once they fix that limit then we will be at the point where we no longer have any moving parts that can fail easily. Until that day comes, then there isnt much of a reason for me to move off to a SSD. Hard drives have a likelihood on failing within 6 months if they were bad in the first place. After that mark you are generally safe for the rest of its lifespan (unless you do some really stupid shit to cause problems). A 3tb drive gains me ~22gb per dollar so hard drives are not going anywhere and ssd's are mostly limited to mobile applications and those that really need the speed for certain applications (not programs)[/QUOTE] You are seriously going to use your SSD for over 1/2 million hours? If not then you have nothing to worry about. SSD's are rated nearly as long as HDD's, if not longer due to lack of headers, and bearings. Yes they are more per GB but it depends what you use it for, as a VMware specialist I care more about IOPS than I do GB, ssd's do that for me, as well as fix any dropping issues I have with my laptop, and increased power inefficiency. I don't even have 3TB(well maybe if I wasn't using dedup on my NAS devices), why would you need that much unless you download everything you see of your trackers.
[QUOTE=reevezy67;38882809]If anything a Linux distro will end up supporting it. Edit: Actually after some Google action it seems like it was actually made for the linux kernel, you will most likely see support for it in the future.[/QUOTE] The next generation file system for Linux is btrfs. It supports wear levelling for SSDs, which is good.
[QUOTE=reevezy67;38882572]I'm a corsair fan myself.[/QUOTE] I am an idiot. I thought this was a joke about corsair case fans.
[QUOTE=Tucan Sam;38882907]why would you need that much unless you download everything you see of your trackers.[/QUOTE] wellll........
Samsung 830's in particular seem to have gone up since I purchased a 256GB one for £112 a couple months back, glad I got it then :D
[QUOTE=jordguitar;38882263]Once they fix that limit then we will be at the point where we no longer have any moving parts that can fail easily. Until that day comes, then there isnt much of a reason for me to move off to a SSD. Hard drives have a likelihood on failing within 6 months if they were bad in the first place. After that mark you are generally safe for the rest of its lifespan (unless you do some really stupid shit to cause problems). A 3tb drive gains me ~22gb per dollar so hard drives are not going anywhere and ssd's are mostly limited to mobile applications and those that really need the speed for certain applications (not programs)[/QUOTE] do you plan on using the same drive for like 15+ years? Assuming the answer is no, then you have nothing to worry about in terms of the SSD read/write limits [editline]18th December 2012[/editline] Also you're only supposed to store your OS, programs, and maybe documents on your SSD. Just set your music, video, picture, and desktop directory to an HDD. It's easy as pie, maybe even nicer since you can nuke your SSD without losing your files. Set your pagefile to an HDD also.
I might get one if the prices keep going down, right now I can't afford something this nice. What are the advantages of SSD over HDD anyway?
[QUOTE=Cows Rule;38883662]I might get one if the prices keep going down, right now I can't afford something this nice. What are the advantages of SSD over HDD anyway?[/QUOTE] this is an ancient video (3 years old) but it's accurate [video=youtube;96dWOEa4Djs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs[/video] SSD's are the tears of God
[QUOTE=The Baconator;38883778]this is an ancient video (3 years old) but it's accurate [video=youtube;96dWOEa4Djs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs[/video] SSD's are the tears of God[/QUOTE] He defragged the drives aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAh
[QUOTE=meppers;38883864]He defragged the drives aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAh[/QUOTE] yeah that was silly also I know he raided [I]24[/I] drives for 2GB/s, but do note that [I]1[/I] [U]modern[/U] SSD is like 500MB/s, so that's amazing progress for just three years
[QUOTE=The golden;38883915]Despite their bad rep, my two OCZ drives are working fine. They're not top grade but I didn't pay top dollar for them either. Better than any harddrive drive you can buy for speed.[/QUOTE] Same, have had used 3 OCZ SSDs in the past 3 years (Vertex 2 and 3 versions) and have had no issues, super fast. Guess I'm just 'lucky'?
[QUOTE=The golden;38883915]Despite their bad rep, my two OCZ drives are working fine. They're not top grade but I didn't pay top dollar for them either. Better than any harddrive drive you can buy for speed.[/QUOTE] Yeah my OCZ Agility 3 (240GB) is fine, but when I do (eventually) upgrade it won't be OCZ unless things have changed allot since then
Mine was a bit slow but its one of the original Vertex ones I think.
I have... 2 x 480GB Intel 520's in Raid 0, a 256GB Intel 520 for active/recient work projects, a 120GB Intel 520 which I use as a cache disk and scratch drive and 8 x 4TB WD Black drives in 4 sets of raid 1 arrays. I still run out of space (yes I really do!) and really should build myself some network storage servers to run my backups on
Man if i knew how to invest in stuff
so uh I would get an SSD if I knew: -is there a way i can go from Windows 7 installed on an HDD to Windows 8 installed on the SSD while only paying the upgrade price ($40?) -is there a relatively simple way to get windows to automatically install other shit onto the HDD? (Won't it be annoying to have to specify to install stuff on the secondary drive every time I install something?) -what size do you recommend if I only plan on running windows on the SSD and nearly everything else off the HDD?
Most excellent. The only reason I'm not using them right now is because I can't afford to spend 90 cents per gigabyte on storage. Once that's come down to match platter drives I'm picking up a 250 gigger and tossing Steam onto it. [editline]19th December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=koeniginator;38886671] -is there a way i can go from Windows 7 installed on an HDD to Windows 8 installed on the SSD while only paying the upgrade price ($40?)[/quote] No idea [quote] -is there a relatively simple way to get windows to automatically install other shit onto the HDD? (Won't it be annoying to have to specify to install stuff on the secondary drive every time I install something?)[/quote] No, and no. I never install shit to C:\. It honestly isn't that annoying to point installers to E:\(program name). [quote] -what size do you recommend if I only plan on running windows on the SSD and nearly everything else off the HDD?[/QUOTE] I would suggest not really bothering. I don't see much of a point of putting Windows, something that only has to load once, on the SSD, while the programs that actually could benefit from the speed are stuck on the platter. I won't be putting Windows on my SSD, that's for sure. Games and shit, yeah. Pagefile even. But not Windows itself.
[QUOTE=TestECull;38886698]Most excellent. The only reason I'm not using them right now is because I can't afford to spend 90 cents per gigabyte on storage. Once that's come down to match platter drives I'm picking up a 250 gigger and tossing Steam onto it. [editline]19th December 2012[/editline] No idea No, and no. I never install shit to C:\. It honestly isn't that annoying to point installers to E:\(program name). I would suggest not really bothering. I don't see much of a point of putting Windows, something that only has to load once, on the SSD, while the programs that actually could benefit from the speed are stuck on the platter. I won't be putting Windows on my SSD, that's for sure. Games and shit, yeah. Pagefile even. But not Windows itself.[/QUOTE] It's not like the entire Windows folder is loaded into your RAM at boot you know. You still gain speed increases for general OS use if you put it on the SSD. If anything games should not be put on the SSD, they should be low priority. All you do is remove some waiting for a game to load up, you don't gain any performance once it's actually loaded. Hell the general consensus today is to buy an SSD between maybe 128GB to 256GB and use it mainly for your OS, applications and if you can fit any games onto it. I've been running a Samsung 830 256GB since October and my Windows boots and is as fast as it was on day 1, something that has NEVER been the case on any mechanical hdd I've been running it off before.
I was really impressed that I got my 120GB ssd for ~$60 on black friday.
[QUOTE=The golden;38883915]Despite their bad rep, my two OCZ drives are working fine. They're not top grade but I didn't pay top dollar for them either. Better than any harddrive drive you can buy for speed.[/QUOTE] I think my old Vertex 3 is going to die soon. The write speed is horrible. (currently at 6236 power on hours) [t]http://www.abload.de/img/large8vjbg.png[/t] My old Vertex 3 on the left compared to my new Corsair Neutron.
I have my netbook and laptop equipped with 128gb SSDs. Space is a bit tight but the reduced power usage, silent running noise, and the fact they aren't affected by movement is worth it IMO.
Is there a notable jump in performance if you set the Pagefile thing to run in a SSD instead of the HDD ? Also, this is nice, it's one of the reasons why I'm planning to get a Corsair 250gb SSD in the next year (Feb).
Back in 2005, a 1gb SSD used to cost $40. Now, you can get a 32gb SD card for the price of $15
I hope sooner or later they come up with a faster port standard than Sata 3, one specifically designed for SSDs without any of that drive control stuff.
I've always been worried about the writing limit until I finally got my SSDs and relaxed. [IMG]http://goo.gl/iqdb9[/IMG] [IMG]http://goo.gl/uqXF2[/IMG] There are a couple tricks you can do in Windows to limit the writing really much. As someone said, people should forget about the writing limit and just enjoy their drive, you will probably buy an upgrade sooner than the drive itself fail.
I'll buy one too eventually!
I'm glad theres a writing limit. It gives some kind of ballpark about when your drive fails, rather than HDDs that will just screw you over.
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