Will probably get one when they come down in price a bit more; for now RAID 0 provides a sufficient, albeit relatively inconsistent, performance boost for my needs.
I bought an SSD a couple months ago and I honestly can't tell the difference.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;38890456]I bought an SSD a couple months ago and I honestly can't tell the difference.[/QUOTE]
I bought my first SSD a few days ago, and I can tell a HUGE difference.
It's amazing really.
What is your read/write speed?
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;38890456]I bought an SSD a couple months ago and I honestly can't tell the difference.[/QUOTE]
Either something is broken or you're lying.
[QUOTE=Wiggles;38890552]Either something is broken or you're lying.[/QUOTE]
something is broken
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IaHs8.png[/IMG]
fixed the ahci thing, the score is still pretty low
I might have plugged it into the sata II
Yeah that's what it was nvm im dumb
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/jZ3u7.png[/IMG]
Question; If my SSD would to fail due to the writing limit, would it still be possible to obtain all of the data off?
[QUOTE=vexx21322;38891345]Question; If my SSD would to fail due to the writing limit, would it still be possible to obtain all of the data off?[/QUOTE]
No, however that write limit is equivalent to about 5-10 years of continuous writing. People really make it a larger issue than it is.
Just bought a 128GB SSD, I'm glad I'm contributing to the shift in standards.
I heard about a company working on a way to dramatically increase the lifespan of SSD's by super-heating parts of the damn thing, essentially revitalizing it.
Great. My samsung 830 works flawlessly.
Maybe we can finally some day replace unreliable hard drives.
[QUOTE=Tucan Sam;38891373]No, however that write limit is equivalent to about 5-10 years of continuous writing. People really make it a larger issue than it is.[/QUOTE]
That's what has been putting me off getting one. I always felt the write limit was around 2-3 years of use.
But now with the prices dropping and the new heat method, I might have to just get a couple SSDs in raid.
Raid would actually degrade the drive faster, TRIM is not supported in anything but 0 which offers no redundancy. Unless you plan to write 100GB of data per day for the next 5 years you are fine so long as you get something like a samsung or (not OCZ)
protip: flash drives have a write limit, however I doubt you have hit it prior to upgrading to a larger size. You'll do the same with an SSD
Once I get moved back to the states and save a little I definitely want to build a new PC with a primary SSD. My PC is starting to show its age so it's about time I retired her to the bone yard.
I have a small SSD for booting but the storage capacity is soley limiting the device benefits for why it should make for better storage. Not forgetting we still have to negotiate the pricing on top of that. Ugh, bad news for people who see the benefits in such components but can't enrich from it. I don't think we will ever see that time for another half a decade or more, sadly.
Having to buy multiple HDD's are massive problems in themselves.
[QUOTE=vexx21322;38891345]Question; If my SSD would to fail due to the writing limit, would it still be possible to obtain all of the data off?[/QUOTE]
The SSD simply can't write anymore to the drive. Reading has no effect. On old disks you could have the drive malfunction. But now with wear leveling the drive will slow down as it locks sectors to not be written over. So the drive will slow down to a crawl and at that point you should take data off.
The write limit isn't some magical thing, it's that to write to a page of NAND you have to read it, wipe it, and write a new page. And it over time the chip wears out from writing to it. So the controller flags it and stops writing to it and moves to new area. New controllers avoid this with wear leveling where it attempts to write to all areas of the disk equally. This is why some drives listed as 120gb actually have 128gb in them. They have extra space to move data around so it's written evenly. You won't wake up one day and try to use the computer and the drive is dead due to write wear. It will slow down. These newer controllers try to wear evenly but also to keep the performance high for longer so that you're using the drive at it's peak for most of it's useful life before you upgrade to a new one.
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[QUOTE=vexx21322;38892158]That's what has been putting me off getting one. I always felt the write limit was around 2-3 years of use.
But now with the prices dropping and the new heat method, I might have to just get a couple SSDs in raid.[/QUOTE]
The heat method is simply a research method, Don't expect to be affected by it.
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[QUOTE=Tucan Sam;38892332]Raid would actually degrade the drive faster, TRIM is not supported in anything but 0 which offers no redundancy. Unless you plan to write 100GB of data per day for the next 5 years you are fine so long as you get something like a samsung or (not OCZ)
protip: flash drives have a write limit, however I doubt you have hit it prior to upgrading to a larger size. You'll do the same with an SSD[/QUOTE]
Depends on the board. Most new intel boards support TRIM though RAID now.
[QUOTE=ferdam;38887406]Is there a notable jump in performance if you set the Pagefile thing to run in a SSD instead of the HDD ?
Also, this is nice, it's one of the reasons why I'm planning to get a Corsair 250gb SSD in the next year (Feb).[/QUOTE]
no, pagefile's these days are mostly used because Windows hates not having one, and could lead to system instability for certain things (even if you aren't even close to running out of ram). Even if you do used a pagefile for media production, the chances of you getting a performance boost is small
And since pagefiles are big (often as large as your ram size) it's a waste of space on your SSD.
My step-dad told me that I shouldn't wait to get an SSD and I should get it right then and there because it's worth the money and "prices aren't gonna drop"
[B]WHO'S LAUGHING NOW, BITCH! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA![/B]
I might buy one in the new year to replace my Raptor that Windows is installed on. But if I do, it'll be around when I replace this ballsed up motherboard and figure out which stick of RAM is the one acting up.
Until then, I'm happy with my monitor occasionally not working and requiring me to force Windows to sleep the screen to fix it.
Although, 1 TB SSDs are still like $3,000
[QUOTE=Mr. Tripp;38898184]My step-dad told me that I shouldn't wait to get an SSD and I should get it right then and there because it's worth the money and "prices aren't gonna drop"
[B]WHO'S LAUGHING NOW, BITCH! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA![/B][/QUOTE]
SSD's are something that, yes you can wait and get one for a lower price, but the benefits of an SSD over a HD for a system drive are worth what they are right now. If you're really strapped for cash check out the Corsair caching drives. It's similar to Intel SRT caching technology, but it's done via software in a utility that mirrors data to the SSD, not striped.
It's something you can do on the fly and add on later instead of having to build it from the start.
I have 2 SSDs, one for my programs/OS and the other for my demanding video games. Its really useful as newer games use significantly larger texture sizes which SSDs can load much faster.
[QUOTE=Mr. Tripp;38898325]Although, 1 TB SSDs are still like $3,000[/QUOTE]
you don't put your media files on an SSD, SSD's are for OS's and programs
you can have more than one drive ya know
[QUOTE=Folstream;38886964]It's not like the entire Windows folder is loaded into your RAM at boot you know. You still gain speed increases for general OS use if you put it on the SSD. [/quote] Speed increases that I don't really see a point for. [quote]If anything games should not be put on the SSD, they should be low priority.[/quote] That's all I'm using mine for. Let's just see how many games will benefit that I play regularly...
Fallout 3
Fallout: NV
GTA: SA
GTA IV
GTA: EFLC
Kerbal Space Program
Gmod
Planetside 2
These games are all [i]constantly[/i] loading things in the background. Fallout: NV is the worst offender on the list, and it's mostly terrible about texture popin on my machine. I can't use a sprint mod or my courier is running on the LoD textures while NPCs spawn forty feet behind. The jetpack I do have is only used for short hops and getting off of invisible walls/bad mapping, again, because of the same problem. Hell, if I fly that fast enough, the game crashes outright because it can't load the terrain fast enough, and I can't use the flyable Vertibird mod because the game literally can't keep up. Running it off an SSD would nip that quite handily.
Not only that, but popping the pagefile onto one will benefit all my games, since I only have four gigs of ram it would directly speed literally every game I play up. Putting Windows on the SSD and leaving my vast Steam library to languish on a 1TB Greenpower platter drive I ripped out of a WD MyBook is a waste of money. I'd be better off not buying the SSD at all if I put Windows on it and left my games on a platter drive.
Also, my Steam folder alone would fill your SSD up too much for Windows to coexist on it, and that's only about half of the games I have.
[quote]I've been running a Samsung 830 256GB since October and my Windows boots and is as fast as it was on day 1, something that has NEVER been the case on any mechanical hdd I've been running it off before.[/QUOTE]
Meh. I don't reboot my machine. Ever. The only time it shuts off is when the AC fails or I bring it offline for a dusting. So I couldn't care less about lowering the 30 second boot time to 15 seconds.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;38899248]you don't put your media files on an SSD, SSD's are for OS's and programs
you can have more than one drive ya know[/QUOTE]
I never said I needed a 1 TB SSD, I said that they are $3,000.
[QUOTE=luck_or_loss;38887168]I was really impressed that I got my 120GB ssd for ~$60 on black friday.[/QUOTE]
Fuck, I should have bought one.
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[QUOTE=TestECull;38899587]
These games are all [i]constantly[/i] loading things in the background. Fallout: NV is the worst offender on the list, and it's mostly terrible about texture popin on my machine. I can't use a sprint mod or my courier is running on the LoD textures while NPCs spawn forty feet behind. The jetpack I do have is only used for short hops and getting off of invisible walls/bad mapping, again, because of the same problem. Hell, if I fly that fast enough, the game crashes outright because it can't load the terrain fast enough, and I can't use the flyable Vertibird mod because the game literally can't keep up. Running it off an SSD would nip that quite handily.
Not only that, but popping the pagefile onto one will benefit all my games, since I only have four gigs of ram it would directly speed literally every game I play up. Putting Windows on the SSD and leaving my vast Steam library to languish on a 1TB Greenpower platter drive I ripped out of a WD MyBook is a waste of money. I'd be better off not buying the SSD at all if I put Windows on it and left my games on a platter drive.
Also, my Steam folder alone would fill your SSD up too much for Windows to coexist on it, and that's only about half of the games I have.
Meh. I don't reboot my machine. Ever. The only time it shuts off is when the AC fails or I bring it offline for a dusting. So I couldn't care less about lowering the 30 second boot time to 15 seconds.[/QUOTE]
I think your money might be better spent elsewhere than on an SSD if you're having issues like that... Definitely more RAM, or a better processor/GPU.
Restarting every now and then is good for it too.
Since im pretty much a noob when it comes to this stuff, when I buy an SSD, i'm going to have to reinstall windows aren't I to get it to boot of that drive
[QUOTE=areolop;38901993]Since im pretty much a noob when it comes to this stuff, when I buy an SSD, i'm going to have to reinstall windows aren't I to get it to boot of that drive[/QUOTE]
Yes.
But keep in mind if you're installing windows on a SSD, it'll install a several times faster. (Assuming you're using the download version, not a disc)
What I'm curious about though, is if one can use a Windows 8 Upgrade but install to the SSD instead of where Windows 7 is
You know, I think you might be able to, but I'm not super experienced with installing on to, or in fact, even running more than 1 hard drive/ storage in general.
I think it should give you the option if you go into advanced/custom installation. I'm not positive though.
[editline]19th December 2012[/editline]
I'm gonna assume yes.
[quote=http://betanews.com/2012/07/04/four-things-you-really-need-to-know-about-windows-8-upgrades/]]2. Are clean installations an option during the upgrade process? LeBlanc mentions that users can select to format the hard drive they want to install Windows 8 Pro on during the upgrade process. This may include the drive the earlier version of Windows was installed on, which is excellent news for users who want to start with a clean fresh operating system. It needs to be mentioned that no data can be migrated from the old operating system to the new if format is selected.[/quote]
[QUOTE=areolop;38901993]Since im pretty much a noob when it comes to this stuff, when I buy an SSD, i'm going to have to reinstall windows aren't I to get it to boot of that drive[/QUOTE]
You don't have to if you don't want. You can clone your current Windows installation with settings and all that from your HDD to your new SSD with software like Norton Ghost!
Fast and easy.
I have a really old MOBO.
Namely an Asus P5B-E
It's been 5 years or so since I built this PC so I am totally out of the tech.
Can I use an SSD?
It really depends on your specs, age doesn't mean a whole lot.
Having an SSD will only speed up things like loading times, where lots files are being loaded into memory (such as launching a game, program, or your operating system.) There's nothing stopping you from using it, assuming your motherboard supports it.
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