• "I killed a man." - Ohio man confesses in online video to driving drunk, causing deadly crash
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[QUOTE=Noss;42108824]Fuck this cunt - overly produced shite to try and make people feel sympathetic towards him. I have zero sympathy towards drunk drivers - you shouldn't even have your car keys with you if you go out drinking. This guy has ruined the lives of that man's family, and has forever changed the lives of their friends and acquaintances. Those kids will grow up without a father and this supercunt needs to be arrested ASAP.[/QUOTE] you think this man isn't living in massive regret every waking second of his life? the regret of having killed someone because of himself? i think he realises how stupid what he did was. calling him a scumbag and saying he should be jailed for years on end won't improve his mental state.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;42110512]Not very impressive in my opinion. As far as taking responsibility, sure if he comes forward and takes his punishment, whatever it turns out to be. AFTER that, he can start in with anti-drunk driving efforts. By doing it this way, it looks like this confession and video is more about gaining sympathy for his own benefit. The video itself is just him laying out excuses for what he did and calling it all 'mistakes'. No, killing someone while DUI is a crime, not merely a mistake.[/QUOTE] It's a crime. Yes. And he could have gotten away with it. But he's not. So what a piece of shit for voluntarily owning up to a crime. Yes. Please, let's continue to demonize good behavior.
[QUOTE=Dead Madman;42108873]Jesus guys you do realize when he got in the car drunk he didn't drive with the intent to kill someone[/QUOTE] it's terrible that some people legitimately compare drunk drivers to murderers. this man especially was depressed in general, it's no wonder he was stuck at the bottom.
[QUOTE=Trogdon;42110695]I too respect people who feel the need to confess to something to alleviate their own guilt[/QUOTE] because the guy did it solely to alleviate his own guilt and not because, you know, he's someone who doesn't enjoy walking around with someone's blood on his hands because he's someone who still has a sense of morality and understanding of the pain he's putting everyone besides him through? just because he killed someone through drunk driving does not suddenly mean he is a shitty egocentric person that is deserving of no sympathy; people fuck up and make terrible decisions all the time, even when they know the risks, but what sets people apart are the ones who can truly fess up to it and show genuine remorse towards the people they hurt due to their actions not everyone in the world is a selfish person who wants to make sure they don't feel shitty before making sure everyone else doesn't feel shitty too
This guy has my full respect for owning up to what he did, he 100% admitted what he did was stupid and that it is his fault.
Owning up to what you did, even going so far as to confess when you might have gotten away with it, yes that's worthy of recognition that you did the right thing. The questionable part is when the person confessing presents his or herself in such a way as to almost seem to be a victim too. I have depression, that's why I was drinking- that's presenting yourself as a victim(of depression). Whether it's true or not is irrelevant, since depression does not lead to drinking automatically, and drinking does not lead to driving necessarily, so this guy had to jump through a lot of hoops to commit his crime. Bringing up depression in this way serves no purpose other than to try and get sympathy for him. As far as anti-drunk driving messages go, focusing on the excuses is a mistake in my opinion. What happens is a lot of people seeing this message will think "well, I'm not depressed so this guy's story really doesn't apply to me". If you focus on what the guy did, drink and drive, and the effect that had on his victims(dead and surviving family) then you remove the opportunity for others to dismiss the possibility that this could be them if they drink and drive.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;42115157]Owning up to what you did, even going so far as to confess when you might have gotten away with it, yes that's worthy of recognition that you did the right thing. The questionable part is when the person confessing presents his or herself in such a way as to almost seem to be a victim too. I have depression, that's why I was drinking- that's presenting yourself as a victim(of depression). Whether it's true or not is irrelevant, since depression does not lead to drinking automatically, and drinking does not lead to driving necessarily, so this guy had to jump through a lot of hoops to commit his crime. Bringing up depression in this way serves no purpose other than to try and get sympathy for him. As far as anti-drunk driving messages go, focusing on the excuses is a mistake in my opinion. What happens is a lot of people seeing this message will think "well, I'm not depressed so this guy's story really doesn't apply to me". If you focus on what the guy did, drink and drive, and the effect that had on his victims(dead and surviving family) then you remove the opportunity for others to dismiss the possibility that this could be them if they drink and drive.[/QUOTE] he didn't make this. it's a PSA video
[url=http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/09/11/court-case-hits-snag-for-man-who-made-youtube-confession-video.html]update[/url] There's your proof of what this video is about. He could have plead in front of that judge, but since she wouldn't guarantee a shorter sentence he decided to plead not guilty. So much for owning up to what he did.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;42153397][url=http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/09/11/court-case-hits-snag-for-man-who-made-youtube-confession-video.html]update[/url] There's your proof of what this video is about. He could have plead in front of that judge, but since she wouldn't guarantee a shorter sentence he decided to plead not guilty. So much for owning up to what he did.[/QUOTE]did you even read your source? it's a little more complicated than how you explained it. But 4 -8 years for what he did seems like a short sentence to me regardless of how remorseful he was.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;42153397][url=http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/09/11/court-case-hits-snag-for-man-who-made-youtube-confession-video.html]update[/url] There's your proof of what this video is about. He could have plead in front of that judge, but since she wouldn't guarantee a shorter sentence he decided to plead not guilty. So much for owning up to what he did.[/QUOTE] I get a totally different vibe from the article: [quote]He appeared yesterday afternoon before Franklin County Common Pleas Judge Julie Lynch, but she postponed Cordle’s arraignment, saying it would be inappropriate to proceed unless he immediately pleaded guilty. Cordle’s failure to enter a plea “calls into question the validity of being so forthcoming in his YouTube video” about his intent to plead guilty, the judge said after the brief hearing.[/quote] It shoulds like this judge is not impartial at all and should be recusing herself from the case. If you're a judge you can't hear a "not guilty" plea and immediate assume it makes the person more guilty - and then say so to the media
The judge is talking about his INTENT as stated in the video, to take responsibility. There he was in front of the judge, who was waiting for him to take responsibility. He backed off, since there was no deal in place for the lesser sentence he wanted. That is what undermines the 'validity' of being so forthcoming(confessing). A PSA is a public service announcement. The key here is 'service' in that he's presenting himself as doing a public service. He also presented himself as suffering illness(depression), thereby playing for sympathy as a victim. This is all tactically sound strategy when you are trying to game the system for your own benefit. Let's face facts, people WANT to forgive you. They want to believe the bad thing or things you've done are 'mistakes'. They want to welcome you back into society. All you have to do is meet them halfway, by saying the right words. "I'm sorry", "It was a mistake", "That's not really how I am", "It was the drugs..."- stuff like that. Forgiveness and redemption are ideals a lot of people cling to. I'm not one of them. I see people's actions, not words. What he does counts for way more than what he says in my view. So far what this guy has done, killed someone then plead not guilty, is completely the opposite of what people are giving him credit for because of what he said on the video.
[QUOTE=ForDaNords;42107333]We don't know if it was an accident or on purpose yet[/quote] There was no accident here. An accident would be if you were walking down a street and a boulder tumbled down a hill, flattening you. [quote] but if it was on accident he deserves the sympathy.[/quote] He deserves none. He chose to drink, he chose to drive while drunk, he deserves everything the courts throw at him. [QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;42108863]d... I mean fuck, at least he is remorseful...And about the thing where he shouldn'tve been driving drunk in the first place... yes, that is very true and he is honestly stupid for doing that, but he owns up to his major mistake. He cares.[/quote] I can respect that. Doesn't mean I'll give him a damn bit of sympathy, though, and I genuinely believe he should never be allowed behind the wheel of anything more powerful than a toy grade RC car. [quote]And none of you can tell me you've never done something stupid that you knew would end badly (not as badly as this- but that's besides the point) and you did it anyways. [/QUOTE] Nope. And I can 100% say I don't deserve any sympathy for my mistakes either. Even if I did I don't want it.
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