Police Officer Shoots 4 Year Old - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Crimor;48016506]Sorry but if you can't wrestle a domesticated dog(Outside of obvious things like police dogs, pitbulls, etc), you're not able to wrestle a human down to the ground, and then why the hell are you a police officer.[/QUOTE] Way to demonstrate zero understanding on reasonable use of force. [QUOTE=Crimor;48004376]I don't know about someone else, but I'd make them kiss the pavement much harder than these guys did, assault with an unknown substance gives me more than enough permission to floor them hard, and keep them there, the lil cunt.[/QUOTE] Yeaaaah.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;48016460]it's a gunshot inside a house, of course the dog is going to run off[/QUOTE] Reports are that the officer was outside when this happened, in the front yard, so the dog ran [i]out[/i] of the house and charged the officer. It was obviously a pretty mean dog to do something like that, something the owner must have known about. [QUOTE=Crimor;48016506]Sorry but if you can't wrestle a domesticated dog(Outside of obvious things like police dogs, pitbulls, etc), you're not able to wrestle a human down to the ground, and then why the hell are you a police officer.[/QUOTE] They're not telling us what kind of dog is was, probably because it wouldn't be good clickbait if it was titled "police officer accidentally shoots a 4 year-old while being attacked by a pitbull", the cop hate train in the media right now wouldn't approve.

[QUOTE=Crimor;48016506]Sorry but if you can't wrestle a domesticated dog(Outside of obvious things like police dogs, pitbulls, etc), you're not able to wrestle a human down to the ground, and then why the hell are you a police officer.[/QUOTE] "yeah you seem like you'd make a great police officer but it says here you have no experience with dog-wrestling. sorry bud, better luck next time"

[QUOTE=Crimor;48016506]Sorry but if you can't wrestle a domesticated dog(Outside of obvious things like police dogs, pitbulls, etc), you're not able to wrestle a human down to the ground, and then why the hell are you a police officer.[/QUOTE] Wrestling a dog trying to attack you is asking to get a nice big chunk of meat torn out of your neck.

[QUOTE=iownuall;48016564] They're not telling us what kind of dog is was, probably because it wouldn't be good clickbait if it was titled "police officer accidentally shoots a 4 year-old while being attacked by a pitbull", the cop hate train in the media right now wouldn't approve.[/QUOTE] To be fair, cops shoot dogs for no reason all of the time. However, I do think he was justified in this, aside from the obvious incompetence. [editline]21st June 2015[/editline] The missing part I mean. Almost certainly an accident as far as shooting the girl goes.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48016819]To be fair, cops shoot dogs for no reason all of the time. [/QUOTE] plz I'm not even going to explain how wrong that is

[QUOTE=Banandana;48016915]plz I'm not even going to explain how wrong that is[/QUOTE] Well I own a dog and think its wrong to shoot them without reason but happens quite a bit from what I understand, the police deciding to just shoot a dog posing no threat for fun or as a preemptive safety measure, etc Perhaps I've been mislead by the sheer amount of blogging and articles on independent news sites on this issue that paint it as a rampant problem. However, based on all of the recent events it does seem like the police force does attract and protect quite alot of people that would best be described as sadistic bullies so I can easily see why I would just believe that when hearing it.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48016972]Well I own a dog and think its wrong to shoot them without reason but happens quite a bit from what I understand, the police deciding to just shoot a dog posing no threat for fun or as a preemptive safety measure, etc Perhaps I've been mislead by the sheer amount of blogging and articles on independent news sites on this issue that paint it as a rampant problem. However, based on all of the recent events it does seem like the police force does attract and protect quite alot of people that would best be described as sadistic bullies so I can easily see why I would just believe that when hearing it.[/QUOTE] I'm seeing you make a lot of blanket statements about the police, but I'm not seeing a lot of evidence to back that up.

[QUOTE=TheHydra;48015942]that kid is going to be messed up pretty bad mentally though. getting shot is enough to give trained soldiers PTSD; getting shot at 4 years old? in your own home? by a police officer? that shit is unimaginable[/QUOTE] Soldiers do not get PTSD just from getting shot, its just that the gun wound is the last nail in the coffin. Im more than sure that the kid will be fine, just a bit freaked out.

[QUOTE=Sonador;48016978]I'm seeing you make a lot of blanket statements about the police, but I'm not seeing a lot of evidence to back that up.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Perhaps I've been mislead by the sheer amount of blogging and articles on independent news sites on this issue that paint it as a rampant problem. [/QUOTE] Honestly though. Based on all of the recent events of police forces protecting people who have [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/16/baltimore-joe-crystal_n_7582374.html]clearly[/url] abused their power its not hard to have a negative view of the police. Google "Police shoot dogs" and you'll get hundreds of articles citing different incidents all over North America. Perhaps they get more attention than they should (well its dogs) but it still happens quite a bit. In this specific situation I'm leaning towards it being justified but quite commonly it's clearly not.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48017030]Honestly though. Based on all of the recent events of police forces protecting people who have [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/16/baltimore-joe-crystal_n_7582374.html]clearly[/url] abused their power its not hard to have a negative view of the police. Google "Police shoot dogs" and you'll get hundreds of articles citing different incidents all over North America. Perhaps they get more attention than they should (well its dogs) but it still happens quite a bit. In this specific situation I'm leaning towards it being justified but quite commonly it's clearly not.[/QUOTE] It's really quite the opposite. In most articles I've read, the dog lunges at officers or civilians and they open fire to protect themselves or others. There was one case I remember in new york, where a pitbull was trying to protect his owner from police and an ambulance crew when his owner was having a seizure in the street, they eventually had to shoot it when it charged them when they tried to help its owner. The crowds were all yelling at the cops for shooting the dog that was preventing its owner from receiving medical attention(the dog lived, just google star the pitbull), and the owner probably would've died if they hadn't done what they did. Yet people are always so quick to yell police brutality because the police are evil and just want to shoot everything in sight. It's so much easier to crucify someone than it is to accept that you are wrong. I'm sorry but the life of a human is much more important than that of an animal, domestic or not, if the choice has to be made.

[QUOTE=GeneralSpecific;48015966]The officer deliberately fired his weapon without 1) assessing whether it was a situation that required deadly force 2) making sure there were no innocents in the line of fire. [/QUOTE] Yes, because when a dog lunges at you, that's a luxury you certainly have. Seriously, do you people perceive time at a fraction of what we do? There's no such thing as being able to properly assess the situation when something is jumping at you.

It's literally reflex and instinct. People can't really criticize it as much as they want to believe. The officer literally has fractions of a second to decide what to do, and his or her life could very well depend on it in every instance where such judgement is called upon. I don't know why people here are so judgmental over such a decision made under intense amounts of pressure but it's unrealistic and detached from reality to do so at best.

[QUOTE=Banandana;48017205]It's literally reflex and instinct. People can't really criticize it as much as they want to believe. The officer literally has fractions of a second to decide what to do, and his or her life could very well depend on it in every instance where such judgement is called upon. I don't know why people here are so judgmental over such a decision made under intense amounts of pressure but it's unrealistic and detached from reality to do so at best.[/QUOTE] You're also making a judgement that the officer wasn't in the wrong. My stance is that there's not enough information in the article to know what exactly went down [editline]21st June 2015[/editline] You have cases of officers shooting dogs where it's necessary and cases where you can't imagine why they even drew their gun. This could be anything

I feel bad for the cop as a human but he is a bad cop. Straight away he panics and jumps for the gun. Aren't cops supposed to learn at least some hand-to-hand combat or self-defense? Nope, just kill everything so I don't have to make any [I]real[/I] physical effort.

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;48017407]I feel bad for the cop as a human but he is a bad cop. Straight away he panics and jumps for the gun. Aren't cops supposed to learn at least some hand-to-hand combat or self-defense? Nope, just kill everything so I don't have to make any [I]real[/I] physical effort.[/QUOTE]Please engage in "hand-to-hand combat" with a dog attacking you.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;48017427]Please engage in "hand-to-hand combat" with a dog attacking you.[/QUOTE] Well if he was a blackbelt in Aikido he could have done some kind of flip or something on the dog and made him tap out without having to do any real damage (except a broken wrist maybe but depends on if the dog has had any martial arts training and knows how to fall and roll)

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;48017427]Please engage in "hand-to-hand combat" with a dog attacking you.[/QUOTE] Apparently the best method is to break the dogs neck, call of duty wasn't even joking. But still... that's a last resort if the dogs on you. I feel like that'd be fucking hard to do Fuck anyone who says you should attempt to take down a dog with your bare hands, that's dumb as hell

[QUOTE=FingerSpazem;48017458]Apparently the best method is to break the dogs neck, call of duty wasn't even joking. But still... that's a last resort if the dogs on you. I feel like that'd be fucking hard to do Fuck anyone who says you should attempt to take down a dog with your bare hands, that's dumb as hell[/QUOTE] Yeah especially when a dog is being all frantic and [I]wants[/I] to hurt you. They are fucking brutal and strong.

Also like "Hey let me just risk being bit by this dog which may or may not have had all it's required vaccinations."

What kind of fucking dogs do you Americans encounter? A domesticated dog isn't gonna fucking rip your throat out even if it senses a "authority figure" or whatever some dumbass in this thread said, and if it would then im sure as hell that 4 year old wouldn't be alive at this point at time.

[QUOTE=Monkey pie;48017508]What kind of fucking dogs do you Americans encounter? A domesticated dog isn't gonna fucking rip your throat out even if it senses a "authority figure" or whatever some dumbass in this thread said, and if it would then im sure as hell that 4 year old wouldn't be alive at this point at time.[/QUOTE] lol walk into my grandmas house with that mentality and get shredded by a rottweiler.

[QUOTE=ShimTaco;48015980]It wasn't "let dog wound you or kill child" It was "Let dog wound you (possibly blind/face maul) or shoot dog. Officer chose shoot dog, but accident happened and someone was hit"[/QUOTE] no it was let dog wound you or shot dog with kid really close by

Dogs, domestic or otherwise, are capable of severe bodily injury or death. This is an objective fact, anyone stating otherwise is either unaware or bullshitting. Training is the deciding factor in what, of that capability, they use. A dog that rushes out of a house and directly at a police officer, would be what a reasonable person would probably consider poorly or inadequately trained.

[QUOTE=iownuall;48016221]This has happened before and it will happen again, and no matter how many times it happens the owners will always blame the cops instead of themselves. It's tragic sure, but it's the owner's fault for not training the dog properly or keeping it secured on a leash when outside like you're supposed to by law. Americans don't just go around shooting people's dogs for sport, and saying something like that just shows ignorance. If anything charges after you, and you fear for your own safety, you will do whatever you think is necessary to protect yourself. Unfortunately the officer had a gun, and a kid was injured. I'm not saying it's not the officer's fault, it assuredly was the moment he drew his firearm, but it all could've been avoided if the owner kept their dog restrained.[/QUOTE] go to fucking hell, a cop shot a fucking kid and you have the goddamn balls to blame the owner for not keeping the dog calm? Don't tell me that's not what you are doing because that is exactly what you are doing. fine, I'm dumb because I'm not blaming the victim. go fuck yourself. I'm not catering to those who get off on victim blaming. fyi for the dense bitches, I don't blame the cop, but it's idiocracy to blame the fucking victim [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming/calm down" - OvB))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;48016687]Yeah, put yourself in harms way (read: major bite wounds) because its better than shooting it.[/QUOTE] i keep myself out of harms way by never going outside and shooting at everything that comes within 50ft

[QUOTE=Iago;48015873]Our police officers should stop flinching with every tiny hint of trouble. Gunfire is meant as a last resort not a first hand solution whenever a pussy cop gets scared or hears a scary noise.[/QUOTE] I'd love to see you handle the job bud :v:

Cops suck. They are literally given the power over life and death all in the name of authority. They are spoon fed power trip from a can. They should be forced to take a bullet somewhere like they do with tasers and pepper spray before they're issued one. It might make them think twice before blowing some poor soul away.

[QUOTE=false prophet;48017921]Cops suck. They are literally given the power over life and death all in the name of authority. They are spoon fed power trip from a can. They should be forced to take a bullet somewhere like they do with tasers and pepper spray before they're issued one. It might make them think twice before blowing some poor soul away.[/QUOTE] You should be forced to face off with a hostile canine. We'll see how well you fare.

[QUOTE=false prophet;48017921]Cops suck. They are literally given the power over life and death all in the name of authority. They are spoon fed power trip from a can. They should be forced to take a bullet somewhere like they do with tasers and pepper spray before they're issued one. It might make them think twice before blowing some poor soul away.[/QUOTE] You should be forced to be put into a similar situation before being allowed to criticize it :v: