Cops: Colorado woman punches, rubs her buttocks against $30 million painting - Polidicks

I made you art[i]i[/i]sts a little something with a spare 2 minutes [img]http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4465/screenshot2012010603490.jpg[/img] stop complaining about how you can "do art better by shitting on a canvas" when a 10 seconds scribblefest in ms paint is all the effort you can put out art is art not because someone spends hours on a work, but because that work represents something; an ideal, a motive, something physical, something emotional. If there's an entire museum dedicated to the guy, he definitely did something right, and for that just his name now is worth a pretty penny. He literally could have scribbled the 'starving' work of art on the last page and just for the fact that it was him who did it, it would be worth money. Every time we have an art thread you people go through a ragefest about how terrible the art is, how you could have done that, and how it shouldn't be worth the money. Art is subjective, You [i]didn't[/i] do that and never would have, and paintings done by a guy who's spent a majority of his career painting expressionism during the expressionist movement has expressionist paintings worth good money to rich people who enjoy collecting these pieces. [b]deal with it[/b] and enjoy the fact some drunkard rubbed her butt on all of this confusing paint

[QUOTE=PowerBall v1;34073359]Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.[/QUOTE] See this guy gets it. I don't see how exactly you can hope to accomplish anything by saying the exact same thing the hipster bullshitters say, i.e "NO THIS IS ART ALL OTHER ART IS CRAP"

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;34074049]Actually there are just the two usual sensationalist headlines white knights who are thisispain and zeke129 (still waiting for raydir to flip out too) constantly bashing people with non-sense and defending what everyone else is blaming.[/QUOTE] You're a fucking idiot. Go sit in the corner.

[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;34070621][img]http://i.imgur.com/PWGnN.jpg[/img] Looks like someone beat her to it.[/QUOTE] While it may be silly that something as simple as this is worth 30 million, I'd hang this thing on my wall. The colours look good. Overall, this picture just looks... Pleasing to look at.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;34074049]Actually there are just the two usual sensationalist headlines white knights who are thisispain and zeke129 (still waiting for raydir to flip out too) constantly bashing people with non-sense and defending what everyone else is blaming.[/QUOTE] cry me a river. [editline]6th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Corndog Ninja;34074001]Holy crap, page two and we've already forgotten [B][I]some lady punched and butt-rubbed a painting in a museum, isn't that strange[/I][/B] and have now decided to tearing each other apart over what is and is not art.[/QUOTE] because art is so much more interesting to talk about than someone's ass on a canvas. there's no point to constantly hold the conversation down for empty jokes and observations about what is in the OP.

[QUOTE=thisispain;34073598]your friend is an idiot if he only studied art based on money. better off he's not making art. jeez what a cry baby [editline]5th January 2012[/editline] [/QUOTE] He was more perturbed that they got that amount of appreciation for it. Besides, he was hoping to make a career of it, and things look rather bleak when the big money-makers do abstract and you can only bring yourself to create things that visually make sense. [editline]6th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Meller Yeller;34071924]You realize that the people that make these paintings didn't just start from nowhere and slapped paint down. They master the fundamentals in doing things like landscapes and portraits and then go to this once they've done the more fundamental stuff. In MOST modern art, the artist has a reason for everything they put down on the canvas based on how are eyes and brain work and try to capture visual interest instead of simply painting something realistic. People's eyes are more drawn to a good modern art work than realistic type stuff and that's what these artists try to create.[/QUOTE] That's assuming they're using canvas, and not simply placing a bicycle wheel on a stool or pissing in a jar.

he was hoping to make a career out of painting? it sounds more like he had his idealism crushed. in any case, someone who is creatively inclined should want to become a painter in order to express themselves, not because of the money. all these artists that have million dollar paintings, one should realize that the artist themselves never get even a 100th of that money. it's all collectors and rich dicks who assign arbitrary value to art. i mean clyfford still's been dead for 30 years. none of the abstract painters or really any avant-garde artists have ever been big money-makers.

[QUOTE=thisispain;34074598]he was hoping to make a career out of painting? it sounds more like he had his idealism crushed. in any case, someone who is creatively inclined should want to become a painter in order to express themselves, not because of the money. all these artists that have million dollar paintings, one should realize that the artist themselves never get even a 100th of that money. it's all collectors and rich dicks who assign arbitrary value to art. i mean clyfford still's been dead for 30 years. none of the abstract painters or really any avant-garde artists have ever been big money-makers.[/QUOTE] He was never much of a painter, though he did go to university to broaden his horizons a bit from just using a pencil and paper. It was more-so that he didn't see the point of spending all that money on college to learn to do the thing he already loved to do when all people seem to want is Jarate.

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;34074611] It was more-so that he didn't see the point of spending all that money on college to learn to do the thing he already loved to do when all people seem to want is Jarate.[/QUOTE] well then he's closer to the avant-garde artists he dislikes than he thinks he is. he is totally right in that there's point spending money on that, but abstract art i don't think is what all people want. no matter what the price of something might suggest.

[QUOTE=thisispain;34074640]well then he's closer to the avant-garde artists he dislikes than he thinks he is. he is totally right in that there's point spending money on that, but abstract art i don't think is what all people want. no matter what the price of something might suggest.[/QUOTE] I think it was more a trend he noticed the more his professor talked, that guy had a vendetta against it for some reason (otherwise I don't think my friend would've heard of the jar-o-piss and bike wheel on the stool). I think anyway, I never met the guy but the way my friend talked about him he was a bit off, but then that's artists for ya. :v:

You usually have to die before your art is worth that much.

[QUOTE=Spybreak;34074200][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9lmvX00TLY[/media] art[/QUOTE] What. The. Fuck. I like it how if you look at some people in the crowd they are trying pretty hard to hold back laughter.

[QUOTE=danielplazzy;34071761][img]http://i.imgur.com/WCw7s.png[/img] its my latest work "starving african child" you cant bad mouth it because art is subjective[/QUOTE] Yes I can. You care to give me an artist's statement? That jpg is shit. It's not art just because you will it to be. Generally most of the post modern stuff is the result of people telling artists what art is, and the artists pushing those definitions.

[QUOTE=macerator;34074883]Yes I can. You care to give me an artist's statement? That jpg is shit. It's not art just because you will it to be. Generally most of the post modern stuff is the result of people telling artists what art is, and the artists pushing those definitions.[/QUOTE] It's art because at least one person thinks it is. Perhaps not to you, but to whomever likes it it's art, and I'm afraid you're just being a dick if you have to forcefully change someone's opinions to sleep at night. Just accept that people like different things than you. It ain't hard.

[QUOTE=Cone;34074911]It's art because at least one person thinks it is. Perhaps not to you, but to whomever likes it it's art, and I'm afraid you're just being a dick if you have to forcefully change someone's opinions to sleep at night. Just accept that people like different things than you. It ain't hard.[/QUOTE] Then these people should stop being giant sellouts and do art for the purpose of pulling money out of stupid rich people. Most of current modern artists do that easy shit because it's the only way they found to make money. You do some stupid thing like throwing shit at a canvas, you find some bullshit explanation like the shit is someone's life and the canvas is a wall and that it means life is like throwing shit at a wall, and you wait for a rich russian dude to come by and be amazed by your talents at throwing shit at a wall, buy it for way more than what it's worth and become famous as that one guy who called himself an artist for selling a shit-stained canvas. It's not art, it's dumb basic opportunist business. [editline]6th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Spybreak;34074200][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9lmvX00TLY[/media] art[/QUOTE] If doing random weird shit is considered bullshit by most people, why is doing random weird shit with paint considered art instead ?

I love these "art experts" who think theyre better and more intelligent than everyone else because they "understand it". Ooo get you, you so deep and meaningful.

this girl has won

[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;34070621][img]http://i.imgur.com/PWGnN.jpg[/img] [/QUOTE] It looks more like one of those mass-produced paintings that cost 10$ each that you can find at furniture stores, not some sort of 30 Million Dollar "masterpiece". [editline]6th January 2012[/editline] I understand art is supposed to be subjective and all, but I just find it too similar to aforementioned store-produced paintings to really think positively of it.

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;34071733]This is why my friend stopped studying art at the University: Why go through all that effort to paint an elaborate land-scape or life-like portrait if some clown can half-ass slap some paint on a canvas (or a bucket, or a jar of piss, in fact, forget the paint on the last one), say "it's art!" and get millions for it?[/QUOTE] Well yeah you don't need to study art to become a professional artist. I think the main reason people study art is because they know it's difficult to make a living out of it, but with their degree they can become a teacher (which is a steady job)

As we can see we have the basis for a nice, neutral argument Such as zeke, who viciously defended that other thread about where someone pissed on a 3d sculpture called "When It Starts Dripping From The Ceiling" and derailed it after the third post And thisispain, who did the exact same thing, and also there's the fact that he is thisispain And look at the arguments we have here, "You're a fucking idiot, go sit in the corner crybaby and deal with it" being backed by mod support What a nice non biased argument recommend garry for nobel peace prize winner 2012 [editline]6th January 2012[/editline] No seriously though can we just instate a word filter that blocks threads that have the phrase "modern art" in them Either that or we can just make a thread in MD and let people have their shitfest there

[QUOTE=danielplazzy;34071761][img]http://i.imgur.com/WCw7s.png[/img] its my latest work "starving african child" you cant bad mouth it because art is subjective[/QUOTE] Good god... $20 million!

[QUOTE=Lemonator;34071933]here comes the kids who don't get modern art[/QUOTE] pretentious high horse [editline]6th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Clementine;34072190]Be outraged child, your understandings of art are very much lacking.[/QUOTE] pretentious high horse why is it that the people who "get" modern art have to be such snooty cunts about it

And nothing of value was damaged I take it? [QUOTE=SEKCobra;34073225]Reminds me of that picture where the artists threw pigs blood on a canvas so many tiems that it actually began to stack and build a 3D shape and it still was jsut black old pig blood on a canvas but worth loads. I've seen it, touched it and read it, and it still is stupid. Jsut liek the one made out of dead rats.[/QUOTE] Just out of curiosity, but do you have issues with the spelling of the words "time", "just" and "like". Or are you doing it deliberately?

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hi i am artist i painted this masterpiece called "my life" [img]http://neptune.spaceports.com/~queen/images/White%20on%20White%20Square.jpg[/img] i will sell this for 50 million dollars, any art-understanding person will buy it for sure

[QUOTE=Zeke129;34073040]lol the facepunch art circlejerk is hilarious you're like a bunch of children NO YOU CANT MAKE GOOD ART THIS IS GOOD ART SEEEEEEEE[/QUOTE] Isn't that the point of art? To make discussion?

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;34073984]Well of course you need talent, but not giving any sort of way to express it ruins a lot of potential careers. The first modern artists and the pioneers of that movement had a very good technique before deciding to dump it for more abstract work. Picasso was an amazing painter before deciding to let aesthetics apart and focus on the abstract meaning and different kinds of art. Even when he was drawing abstract stuff, there still was a very elaborate technique behind it. There was also that one painter whose name I can't remember, but he started painting a very well made, elaborate tree, and repainted it over and over again by simplifying it to the max until it wasn't much more than a bunch of lines on a white canvas. You can see the evolution here, if he immediately pulled the last painting out of his ass people would have just called him a dumbass. Artists nowadays don't have any technique at all - not being able to draw something proportionate with respect of the laws of perspective is one thing, not being able to give any sort of elaborate work is another. Plus, most abstract artists nowadays actually base themselves on artists who made fun of modern art in the first place. Copying people who parodied other people because they found their work stupid in the first place.[/QUOTE] you're just mad the Louvre has nothing cool [editline]6th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Omali;34076257]Isn't that the point of art? To make discussion?[/QUOTE] this doesn't count as discussion (see what I did)

30 million? I wouldn't pay 30 cents for that piece of shit.

Guys chill, don't blame the artist, blame the guy that priced the art, they're what's making abstract art look bad by giving ridiculously high prices to simple-looking art pieces making it look like the artist is a snob fuck trying to do loads of money with little effort. The artist probably just made this because he felt like it, never thinking about money, then he placed it somewhere, someone came up and said "I'll buy it for [money value]" and the artist's like "Sure whatever". When I look at the painting, it reminds me of UT3's main menu for some reason.

I call this Everyday Struggle [img]http://i.imgur.com/gze6X.jpg[/img]