Obama: "Marijuana is no more dangerous than alcohol"
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[QUOTE=AtomicSans;43594787]This is dumb how?[/QUOTE]
cannabis is probably a bit more safe than alcohol, but some people seem to violently react when someone points out that safer =/= completely safe
being stoned is just as bad as being drunk imo
[QUOTE=J!NX;43594829]Yeah prohibition sure fucking worked guy[/QUOTE]
What
I thought he meant he personally disapproves of its use while not objecting to its legalization
Kinda think you're jumping the gun here
[QUOTE=Aphtonites;43594840]being stoned is just as bad as being drunk imo[/QUOTE]
Hahaha
Well...
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[QUOTE=DaysBefore;43594844]What
I thought he meant he personally disapproves of its use while not objecting to its legalization
Kinda think you're jumping the gun here[/QUOTE]
I guess I'll just look before I leap
[QUOTE=J!NX;43594829]How does either effect you exactly?[/QUOTE]Neither one has ever affected me, and I'm quite proud of that fact.
[QUOTE=Aphtonites;43594840]cannabis is probably a bit more safe than alcohol, but some people seem to violently react when someone points out that safer =/= completely safe
[B]being stoned is just as bad as being drunk imo[/B][/QUOTE]Not at all.
[QUOTE=Tmaxx;43594794]stoner rush in 3, 2, 1...[/QUOTE]Oooo aren't you cool.
[QUOTE=AtomicSans;43594740]Too much will cause brain damage though. "Too much" meaning "so much that you have a legitimate problem".[/QUOTE]
wouldn't call that brain damage, would rather call it an addiction. pretty sure marijuana by itself isn't dangerous in neither the short term or the long term. hash on the other hand though, that'll gradully lower your reflexes and make you more sluggish on the long term
[QUOTE=PredGD;43594914]wouldn't call that brain damage, would rather call it an addiction. pretty sure marijuana by itself isn't dangerous in neither the short term or the long term. hash on the other hand though, that'll gradully lower your reflexes and make you more sluggish on the long term[/QUOTE]AFAIK, they both will, but hash more quickly.
[QUOTE=AtomicSans;43594924]AFAIK, they both will, but hash more quickly.[/QUOTE]
oh, you sure? not that educated on the topic but pretty sure the chemicals in the hash did something special that marijuana didn't. read that marijuana users get "lazy" and sluggish in the short term, but suffer no long term effects compared to hash
[QUOTE=PredGD;43594935]oh, you sure? not that educated on the topic but pretty sure the chemicals in the hash did something special that marijuana didn't. read that marijuana users get "lazy" and sluggish in the short term, but suffer no long term effects compared to hash[/QUOTE]I'm uninformed as shit on the subject of weed, so I'm sure you know much more than I do.
[QUOTE=PredGD;43594935]oh, you sure? not that educated on the topic but pretty sure the chemicals in the hash did something special that marijuana didn't. read that marijuana users get "lazy" and sluggish in the short term, but suffer no long term effects compared to hash[/QUOTE]
tbh i really just think its how high it gets you, wax/oil def fux u up tho
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;43594844]What
I thought he meant he personally disapproves of its use while not objecting to its legalization
Kinda think you're jumping the gun here[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]But when it comes to federal law, marijuana remains a schedule 1 controlled substance - a drug with high potential for abuse but no accepted medical use - and the White House has said that Obama doesn't support changing that status.[/QUOTE]
Read the article.
[QUOTE=ironman17;43594793]What is it with January 2014 and people finally becoming smart? Is it really just the whole New Years resolution thing kicking in, wherein people say "this year, I won't be a complete idiot and instead work towards the greater good of humanity"?[/QUOTE]
The world ebbs and flows in terms of overall intelligence, individual prosperity, and global happiness. The whole world's been in a sort of downturn for the last few decades, after a few decades prior that were on the high end of the scale, so we might just finally be going back up again. Everyone being baked out of their minds would probably help bring up positivity and cooperation as well, considering just how giddy and friendly weed tends to make most people, even long after the effects wear off.
At least, I hope things are swinging back towards positive. I'm sick of all the negativity and bullshit I have to see and deal with day-to-day.
[QUOTE=TurboSax;43594961]The world ebbs and flows in terms of overall intelligence, individual prosperity, and global happiness. The whole world's been in a sort of downturn for the last few decades, after a few decades prior that were on the high end of the scale, so we might just finally be going back up again.
At least, I hope things are swinging back towards positive. I'm sick of all the negativity and bullshit.[/QUOTE]
poetic man
the potential legalization of marijuana in the united states is definitely a sign the world is reaching a new point of positive and prosperity
I damn sure hope that humanity's starting to get smarter again; maybe it's because all of the old people are dying?
[QUOTE=J!NX;43594829]How does either effect you exactly?[/QUOTE]
My parents get drunk and have screaming and sometimes punching matches, usually detailing how much they hate each other and how much my mom wants to kill herself.
I just don't like recreational drugs, okay? People who are drunk, or high on anything just make me uncomfortable, and I'd never ever want to do those drugs myself. I don't have much justification for these feelings, but there they are.
I still absolutely support the legalization of unharmful drugs, I think the war on drugs is fucking stupid, and I think anyone who wants to do them should be able to. And that should be [I]enough.[/I] I don't need to have a bong to not be an asshole when it comes to my stance on pot.
For me, it's like when one of your friends starts splurging about some tv show you don't really like, and going on about it incessantly, and you're just sitting there awkwardly because you're not as excited as they are, and you don't care, and it's starting to get annoying.
[QUOTE=SickJits;43594949]tbh i really just think its how high it gets you, wax/oil def fux u up tho[/QUOTE]
hash is produced with hash oil, which contains oils and caryophyllene, both of which are carcinogenic and toxic to humans; vaporization instead of smoking will prevent a large majority of the chemicals from entering the body
[editline]19th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=ironman17;43595001]I damn sure hope that humanity's starting to get smarter again; maybe it's because all of the old people are dying?[/QUOTE]
i really do hope youre being sarcastic
obama's opinion on cannabis use doesnt mean the world is changing or "getting smarter"
you act like we're in some kind of dark age because people dont like pot
Aren't both of them just as equally unhealthy in excess?
[QUOTE=AtomicSans;43594787]This is dumb how?[/QUOTE]
it's really just considered dumb because one of those things is considered a substantial social lubricant and tradition. booze is strange as an intoxicant because it has a wide variety in a way that weed doesn't that provides it a lot of wiggle room and diversity, which makes it dip into other fields of "hobbyism" if you want to call it that. ie, beer has a huge variety in taste, a lot of which appeals to foodies such as myself. you can use it in cooking, and each beer can have a huge variety in taste to the point that they don't even taste like the same drink - the difference between a stout and an ipa are huge. one is a sweet, thick drink, the other is a light, floral, and really bitter drink. wine (apparently, but [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCdv3B7GmS8]this is how i feel about that personally[/url]) is similar for a lot of people, and has a wide variety of uses in cooking beyond being utilized as an intoxicant.
not being okay with alcohol is fine though, as everyone's saying it's really entirely about moderation. i've grown up in a family of utter alcoholics and one who's actually become addicted to both booze and weed though, and i've got to say, alcohol is significantly more destructive when abused - not from a physical perspective, but from a social one. where weed will make them calm and relaxed and still largely able to function, the booze will often make them argumentative, and destroy all sense of productivity.
really why people are rating you dumb tho is because they see you as a stick in the mud tbh
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;43594723][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_and_health[/URL]
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_cannabis#Biochemical_mechanisms_in_the_brain[/URL]
Compare these two before you spout something off, Mr. President.
Marijuana doesn't kill you if you ingest too much of it, and it doesn't rot your liver either.[/QUOTE]
He is correct though, it isn't more dangerous than alcohol. I don't see why people are getting angry about this, the way I read it is that it isn't more dangerous than something that is perfectly legal.
[QUOTE=PredGD;43594914]wouldn't call that brain damage, would rather call it an addiction. pretty sure marijuana by itself isn't dangerous in neither the short term or the long term. hash on the other hand though, that'll gradully lower your reflexes and make you more sluggish on the long term[/QUOTE]
hash and MJ is the same stuff, just different concentrations.
[QUOTE=Jsm;43595050]He is correct though, it isn't more dangerous than alcohol. I don't see why people are getting angry about this, the way I read it is that it isn't more dangerous than something that is perfectly legal.[/QUOTE]
Marijuana is [i]no more dangerous[/i] than alcohol.
Surely he could have some up with a better comparison. That said, though, point taken.
When I'm out in the streets late at night I'd rather run into stoners than drunks. Seems like drunk people become extremely irrational and often annoying while people who are high are usually pretty chill throughout. There's a lot more trouble like fights coming from people who drank too much than people who smoke weed over here.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;43595071]hash and MJ is the same stuff, just different concentrations.[/QUOTE]
the more you know, thought hash was mixed with other chemicals too
[QUOTE=Bokito;43595091]When I'm out in the streets late at night I'd rather run into stoners than drunks. Seems like drunk people become extremely irrational and often annoying while people who are high are usually pretty chill throughout. There's a lot more trouble like fights coming from people who drank too much than people who smoke weed over here.[/QUOTE]
Drunkenness suppresses the parts of your brain that are useful for higher order thinking, hence the irrationality of drunks. They're pretty much working on instinct.
Whether you believe it or not, smoking pot isnt good for your lungs, its a carcinogen, you're literally breathing in tiny bits of carbon that get stuck throughout your nose and lungs. Although it doesn't have a lot of the chemicals that cigarettes have, its no better than breathing in smoke from burning wood.
I aggre
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[QUOTE=Loriborn;43595023]i really do hope youre being sarcastic
obama's opinion on cannabis use doesnt mean the world is changing or "getting smarter"
you act like we're in some kind of dark age because people dont like pot[/QUOTE]
Well it's not just the pot thing; look at humanity in general and you see a LOT of idiots, many of them with power. The excuse "they're only human" isn't good enough because every human should aspire to be more than human.
Also use some capitalisation; it reflects badly on your intellect.
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