• Obama: "Marijuana is no more dangerous than alcohol"
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[QUOTE=Mamok Zalku;43596893]The error in chronoception (not being able to tell time) is technically a hallucination by the way. And weed is a hallucinogen but a very very weak one. Might I also add that in high consumption, alcohol can also make you hallucinate. Remember a hallucination doesn't have to be visual. A hallucination is an error in perception where you perceive something without the corresponding stimuli. Perception covers all of your senses including visual, auditory, olfactory, gustatory, and tactile. As well as the lesser known ones such as nociception, proprioception, equlibrioception and chronoception. Also IMO being drunk is worse than being high because being drunk can really fuck up your emotional state which can be painful for others and yourself, in more ways than just physical.[/QUOTE] completely ignoring the bad medical side effects of Alcohol abuse, it can ruin a family and a career much faster and easier than weed.
Obamas a fucking retard but I would have to agree with the weed statement
I personally dissapprove of smoking pot. I wouldn't do it, I wouldn't encourage anyone else to do it, but your life is your life, do what you want with it.
Let's get something straight. It's still [I]dangerous[/I] in high enough doses. Weed is not the safe, magical happy-plant you guys seem to think it is. Just like alcohol, too much will lead to dependence, which [B]will[/B] fuck up your brain. Less dangerous? Maybe. Still not something you should be doing on a daily basis.
[QUOTE=J!NX;43597227]completely ignoring the bad medical side effects of Alcohol abuse, it can ruin a family and a career much faster and easier than weed.[/QUOTE] This is a stupid argument. Marijuana addiction is just as bad as other addictions. Everyone flips a tit because someone expresses their opinion. Wow. Shocker. The legalization of marijuana is a huge deal that has to be fought in the courts because under federal law it is illegal regardless of what states legalize.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;43596832]Yeah red wine has been proven time and time again to be good for your heart [/QUOTE] Thats why the French and Italians generally have better heart health. [QUOTE=areolop;43597997]This is a stupid argument. Marijuana addiction is just as bad as other addictions. Everyone flips a tit because someone expresses their opinion. Wow. Shocker. [/QUOTE] Because people beat their wives, kill people and rape because of weed.
[QUOTE=areolop;43597997]This is a stupid argument. Marijuana addiction is just as bad as other addictions. Everyone flips a tit because someone expresses their opinion. Wow. Shocker. The legalization of marijuana is a huge deal that has to be fought in the courts because under federal law it is illegal regardless of what states legalize.[/QUOTE] Being addicted to weed isn't [I]nearly [/I]as bad as alcohol, what the hell are you talking about? sure it's bad, but it doesn't kill you like other addictions, at all. Have you even heard of someone dying of marijuana overdose? Seriously the shit you just said implies weed is as bad as alcohol or god forbid, coke or meth. Hint: it isn't lol. Wow. Shocker. and nah it aint a big deal. Hurts way way way less people than alcohol does.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43598012] Because people beat their wives, kill people and rape because of weed.[/QUOTE] Do people do the same with alcohol addiction? Nope. Some do, but not everyone. Do people do the same with computer addiction? Nope. Do people do the same with sex addiction? Nope. You just made a minority group of people the primary base for your argument.
[QUOTE=slayer64;43597970]Let's get something straight. It's still [I]dangerous[/I] in high enough doses. Weed is not the safe, magical happy-plant you guys seem to think it is. Just like alcohol, too much will lead to dependence, which [B]will[/B] fuck up your brain. Less dangerous? Maybe. Still not something you should be doing on a daily basis.[/QUOTE] Psychological dependence, not chemical. Just like you can get 'addicted' to fapping. It's only because you're doing something that makes you feel good, so you want to keep doing it. You cannot get chemically addicted to weed like you can to alcohol.
[QUOTE=areolop;43598047]Do people do the same with alcohol addiction? Nope. Some do, but not everyone. Do people do the same with computer addiction? Nope. Do people do the same with sex addiction? Nope. You just made a minority group of people the primary base for your argument.[/QUOTE] that isn't the point at all way more people become assholes due to alcohol than weed ever has in the entire time it's existed way more people die from drinking and driving way more crime has happened because of alcohol (Looking purely at "Being high" resulting in crime) If weed were legal, as alcohol is now, it would create FAR less beatings and crime than alcohol, as well as FAR LESS overdoses on a massively exponential scale. no one "Made up" this "Minority" for the base. Alcohol can be very very dangerous, and you're extremely naive if you [I]actually [/I]think it's not that bad. Alcohol's worst: [url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2013/08/29/mike-tyson-today-show-interview/2726103/[/url] Weeds worst: [url]http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/01/11/snoop-dogg-weed.jpeg[/url] if you actually think those are even close you are obviously high
[QUOTE=areolop;43598047] You just made a minority group of people the primary base for your argument.[/QUOTE] It changes peoples brain chemistry. It can make a pretty reasonable and good person into a complete ass. Its hardly a minority. Drunken people do irrational things driven by emotion.
[QUOTE=areolop;43597997]This is a stupid argument. Marijuana addiction is just as bad as other addictions. Everyone flips a tit because someone expresses their opinion. Wow. Shocker.[/QUOTE] this really just isn't true. withdrawing from a severe enough addiction from something like alcohol or benzos will literally kill you.
[QUOTE=Aphtonites;43594840]cannabis is probably a bit more safe than alcohol, but some people seem to violently react when someone points out that safer =/= completely safe being stoned is just as bad as being drunk imo[/QUOTE] That's rather vague. In what way? [editline]19th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=slayer64;43597970]Let's get something straight. It's still [I]dangerous[/I] in high enough doses. Weed is not the safe, magical happy-plant you guys seem to think it is. Just like alcohol, too much will lead to dependence, which [B]will[/B] fuck up your brain. Less dangerous? Maybe. Still not something you should be doing on a daily basis.[/QUOTE] Do you know this from experience?
[QUOTE=MadPro119;43595594][img]http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/karmaceuticals-budbar.jpg[/img] [t]http://www.thedailychronic.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2013/06/dispensary-shelves.jpg[/t] [t]http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/edibles.jpg[/t] [t]http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/healinghouse_ediblesbar.jpg[/t] Foods flavors blends tastes drinks strains and more. Weed has it all.[/QUOTE] the difference that i make of it (everyone is obviously free to disagree) is that unless you're an ultra connoisseur of pot, in regards to smoking it, you're not going to be able to tell the difference beyond "oh this is dry and harsh" vs "oh this is moist and dank and owns". additionally, all of the flavours are designed to provide different types of highs, right? where booze is designed with flavours as the primary focus of the drink. as far as the edibles are concerned, sure, but the weed doesn't really enhance the flavour of the food, it just adds an intoxicant to it. which is not what alcohol is designed for in food, it has actual chemical properties in it that bring out certain flavours. ie vodka sauce doesn't exist to get you drunk, whereas i'm willing to bet those candies are designed to get you high basically what it boils down to is that alcohol branches into multiple fields of hobbies, but at this point it doesn't seem like weed does to me
[QUOTE=valkery;43594766]Um, exactly that? Alcohol can make you physically dependent, can destroy the liver when taken in excess, is easy to over-consume before the effects are really felt, and is just terrible for you in general. Pot can make you pass out or throw up when taken in extreme excess, but it won't kill you if you overdose, and it forms nearly no physical dependence. Psychological dependence is possible, but unlikely, and even if you consume it day in day out for years, if you don't smoke it, the worst that will happen is needing a lot more to get equally stoned. Pot > all other forms of recreational drugs[/QUOTE] Actually it can kill you via overdose. The Merck Index lists the LD50 (dosage of a certain chemical which will kill half of a population given that dosage) of pure THC to be 42 mg/kg.
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cannabis is harmful because anyone who smokes it won't shut up about it
[QUOTE=cody8295;43598296]Actually it can kill you via overdose. The Merck Index lists the LD50 (dosage of a certain chemical which will kill half of a population given that dosage) of pure THC to be 42 mg/kg.[/QUOTE] That's almost everything though. The problem isn't the drug/item itself, it's how other people perceive it and it's possible uses. People originally thought weed was as bad as heroin. Thoughts have changed. On the other side of the spectrum, people think that alcohol is worse, but weed is okay no matter how much you consume. 2 sides of a coin, ya' know.
America, where being a civil servant and saying things that are common sense, aren't batshit insane or pantshittingly retarded nets you a fortune in gold stars
this sounds a lot like the president is going for brownie points to help his approval rating if you ask me.
[QUOTE=SickJits;43594949]tbh i really just think its how high it gets you, wax/oil def fux u up tho[/QUOTE] All they do is fuck up your tolerance. The butane in you use to make dabs isn't really bad for you either.
[QUOTE=Nukefuzz;43599103]All they do is fuck up your tolerance. The butane in you use to make dabs isn't really bad for you either.[/QUOTE] if you're breathing in butane or even close to doing so while doing butter or oil dabs you're doing it wrong. like so fucking wrong.
everyone knows jenkem is where it's at
[QUOTE=The Calzone;43595361]Alright, nah. It's time to clear up some misconceptions about weed. Weed doesn't cause hallucinations. The two primary things that weed does is cause a sense of euphoria and it slows your mental facilities, making everything about ten times more fascinating and also fucking with your perception of time. In other words, it makes your entire body as pleasurable as your bellend and it makes you so stupid that bright colors and rock n' roll absolutely delight you. It doesn't cause hallucinations. To compare the effects of marijuana vs. the effects of alcohol: Alcohol makes you stupid, impairs your motor skills, and it makes you way more impulsive. This can lead to incredibly stupid and potentially dangerous decisions. Marijuana makes you stupid, impairs your motor skills, and makes you way LESS impulsive. Everything feels so good and your brain is operating so slowly that you don't really get exciting stupid ideas. Why take the car out for a drive when walking to the fridge feels "like, woah." On the topic of driving, driving while under the influence of either substance is a fucking stupid idea because of the effects on your reaction time, but you're way less likely to get in a fatal collision when high on marijuana because you'll be going like five miles per hour. tl;dr both substances have upsides and downsides but marijuana's downsides are way, WAY tamer than alcohol's because marijuana doesn't give you dangerous impulses. So yeah, if alcohol is legal, then marijuana should also be legal because in comparison it is WAAAY less dangerous.[/QUOTE] I can confirm this, I was super stoned last night and lacked so much confidence in my motor skills that I was afraid I would "drown in the shower"
people who do weed are afraid to drive i can vouch for this i don't do weed but i know people that do and they're literally terrified of driving when high they tell me it goes too fast(they go like 10 mph) so i drive
[QUOTE=katbug;43599610]I can confirm this, I was super stoned last night and lacked so much confidence in my motor skills that I was afraid I would "drown in the shower"[/QUOTE] I've never gotten that high in my life and I've greened out before. That sounds like how people are when they're drunk, not stoned
[QUOTE=The Calzone;43595361]Alright, nah. It's time to clear up some misconceptions about weed. Weed doesn't cause hallucinations. The two primary things that weed does is cause a sense of euphoria and it slows your mental facilities, making everything about ten times more fascinating and also fucking with your perception of time. In other words, it makes your entire body as pleasurable as your bellend and it makes you so stupid that bright colors and rock n' roll absolutely delight you. It doesn't cause hallucinations. To compare the effects of marijuana vs. the effects of alcohol: Alcohol makes you stupid, impairs your motor skills, and it makes you way more impulsive. This can lead to incredibly stupid and potentially dangerous decisions. Marijuana makes you stupid, impairs your motor skills, and makes you way LESS impulsive. Everything feels so good and your brain is operating so slowly that you don't really get exciting stupid ideas. Why take the car out for a drive when walking to the fridge feels "like, woah." [b]On the topic of driving,[/b] driving while under the influence of either substance is a fucking stupid idea because of the effects on your reaction time, but you're way less likely to get in a fatal collision when high on marijuana because you'll be going like five miles per hour. tl;dr both substances have upsides and downsides but marijuana's downsides are way, WAY tamer than alcohol's because marijuana doesn't give you dangerous impulses. So yeah, if alcohol is legal, then marijuana should also be legal because in comparison it is WAAAY less dangerous.[/QUOTE] It's not that bad driving under the influence of marijuana, and I can vouch for the years of bong rips and pizza deliveries that you can keep a stable condition while driving with maybe some slight restless characterization, but nothing major to a point of stopping in the middle of an intersection at a red light or missing a median and ruining some flower bed while hitting a curb 2 in the morning. Nothing major.
the amount of people here justifying driving whilst under the influence is alarming
[QUOTE=Loriborn;43599741]the amount of people here justifying driving whilst under the influence is alarming[/QUOTE] I know my tolerance though, if I know I'm too blazed and I'm incapable of walking normal with those weird tingling vibes, I'll just work the dough and cheese gritter until I come down a bit with some water to get back to driving deliveries. It's been a cycle of mine for years and I have a problem resisting peer pressure over some free weed. I need to get a new job.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;43599741]the amount of people here justifying driving whilst under the influence is alarming[/QUOTE] Ummm no driving while high is 100% safe you see Loriborn, when you are high on weed and driving, you'll stop at a stop sign and wait for it to change, since it's a static object, you never move. therefore, it's completely safe. You can't kill anyone if you never move.
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