DLC is accepted by consumers as much as a person accepts being a hostage when someone robs a bank with a gun.
dlc that actually adds real content to a game that takes a few days to beat and that's doing it nonstop almost is accepted but dlc that is pay $5 for a new color to paint this one thing isn't or dlc that is pay $6 to get this endgame like item.
From what I've seen, every single piece of Assassins Creed DLC is garbage.
I remember the first time I played AC2 without the DLC and I enjoyed the game. I got a version later with the DLC already in it, and the added parts really dragged for me.
[QUOTE=Oizen;45319737]From what I've seen, every single piece of Assassins Creed DLC is garbage.
I remember the first time I played AC2 without the DLC and I enjoyed the game. I got a version later with the DLC already in it, and the added parts really dragged for me.[/QUOTE]
AC4 Freedom Cry though
I never really had a problem with DLC to be honest. Look at games like New Vegas or Skyrim. The DLC for those games adds dozens of hours of gameplay. Look at games like Saints Row. Give them a quarter and they give you a new gun. It's not required to enjoy the full game and there's already hours of gameplay and dozens of guns so I think that's reasonable.
The only exception I think is when the developers make a lot of content up front with the game's budget and then the publisher steps in and says "You know that stuff you already made for the purpose of including in the full game? Take that and make people pay extra for it." as opposed to a game already being over budget and they want to make new content so they release that as on disc DLC.
Besides that case, I think people whining about DLC ruining the games industry somehow are just being entitled.
fuck dlc
"Batman: Arkham Origins Complete Edition" because the 60 dollars you paid upfront didn't mean shit
I hope the worst for Ubisoft. I hope that their most expensive projects fail financially and I hope there is a massive fall out with the Assassin's Creed series.
[QUOTE=Jarokwa;45318997]I buy DLC that expands the game. Sometimes a costume/useless weapon if I want to support the game, that's fine imo.
Day one DLC is just completely retarded and the companies that do that should suck a dick.[/QUOTE]
Day 1 DLC is only acceptable if it's free.
[QUOTE=Keychain;45319748]AC4 Freedom Cry though[/QUOTE]
And honestly, I got a huge kick out of the Tyranny of King Washington.
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[QUOTE=JoelDJr;45320111]I hope the worst for Ubisoft. I hope that their most expensive project fail financially and I hope people have a massive fallout with the Assassin's Creed series.[/QUOTE]
Wow thanks bae :(
Assassin's Creed is my favorite AAA series, mainly because I love history and it's a nice change of pace from strategy games. And the amount of detail that actually goes into the history parts is extraordinary, even with the Assassin and Templar stuff thrown in. Take it IV how Edward gets the Jagdaw. It was when the Spanish Treasure Fleet sunk in 1715. There was one ship that purportedly sunk farther north than the rest of the fleet and hasn't even been accounted for, and was a small Frigate named the San Miguel. In Assassin's Creed IV that ship didn't sink, it was taken by Edward and Adewale. Details like that man.
The entire fucking series is like that, and you want it to just [I]die[/I]? A lot of work goes into the Assassin's Creed games and keeps a lot of people bringing food home to their family.
DLC is a good thing.
microtransactions in full priced games however; are not.
[QUOTE=gbtygfvyg;45318803]DLC is "accepted" because we can't do anything about it.[/QUOTE]
No DLC is accepted because mindless fools buy into that crap. And as long as the majority buy into it, the more intellectual minority don't matter.
I dunno, Ubisoft did Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon and damn.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;45320530]this, theres so many interesting historically accurate things in the ac series, hell, sitting down to read the codex thing about all the locations and people is pretty interesting, considering most of the characters are real people, and most of the locations are really there, albeit modified for game purposes (and even stated to be modified in the codex)[/QUOTE]
yeah, I thought that was cool in ACIV, how they had like little 'Abstergo' Dev fights in the encyclopedia articles. Especially with things like "No fudging dates!" "But it's iconic! It goes in!". Kinda gives you good insight into how some of the dev process works imo.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;45318820]a majority of people could stop preordering for preorder bonuses and stop buying the shitty dlc
ofc that would require consumers to actually have some form of self control and god forbid that happens[/QUOTE]
Too many children with mommy's credit card. Parents will spend a lot of money if it means their annoying kid will shut the fuck up for a while
Oh yes, because people being excited for a game and wanting to get to play it as early as possible is "gross".
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;45320389]Saints Row 3 had a DLC you had to buy to enable cheat codes.
It also had one so you could paint a (previously uncustomizable vehicle, which is uncustomizable for no reason whatsoever) purple.
This money grabbing DLC is scummy and unacceptable.
There really should be a new term for the scummy DLC to separate it from decent DLC.[/QUOTE]
The person right below you said the term, Microtransaction. Thats all the costume/weapon/skin packs are.
[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;45320478]No DLC is accepted because mindless fools buy into that crap. And as long as the majority buy into it, the more intellectual minority don't matter.[/QUOTE]
Oh well fuck me then, I've killed the gaming industry single handedly by buying the New Vegas DLC, ruined hundreds of peoples fun by investing in BF3 Premium and thoroughly using it, stamped on a few babies by purchasing fun little things in Just Cause 2 because I really fucking love that game enough to support it.
lmao get educated, DLC isn't all "PAY NOW WIN WIN WIN!!!!" shit.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;45320881][I]Just 'Cause[/I] (huehue) it isn't that way as of right now, doesn't mean we aren't headed toward that direction.[/QUOTE]
You could literally buy a single vehicle as DLC. That's the exact shit people complain about. It isn't a threat to the industry at all because the content isn't required. It will never be a threat to the industry until stuff is very obviously removed from games to a point that it is near required to buy the content to finish stuff.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;45320834]Oh well fuck me then, I've killed the gaming industry single handedly by buying the New Vegas DLC, ruined hundreds of peoples fun by investing in BF3 Premium and thoroughly using it, stamped on a few babies by purchasing fun little things in Just Cause 2 because I really fucking love that game enough to support it.
lmao get educated, DLC isn't all "PAY NOW WIN WIN WIN!!!!" shit.[/QUOTE]
that DLC isn't the issue, and I don't see why "Lmao get educated" makes you sound smart at all
Hint: you sound like an idiot when you do that
people complain when they take content from the CD before the game is even released and announces it as DLC, or split the community with 15$ map packs and "exclusive" multiplayer content like weapons.
or bf3's 20$ pack to get all upgrades immediately, which is very pay2win. Worst case scenario; imagine if loadout had beams only as "DLC".
or calling an edition the "Complete edition", as if that 60$ you spent wasn't enough to buy the complete game. Also, fuck sims DLC.
I spent like 40$ in loadout, I love DLC and micro transactions when they aren't ass. But if you could buy blutes with money, you see, that would be ass.
is buying a variety of cars or weapons for a buck or two in a singleplayer game really the death of good games renegadecop?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;45320970]is buying a variety of cars or weapons for a buck or two in a singleplayer game really the death of good games renegadecop?[/QUOTE]
its pretty silly but its not like they're paying you 15$ for it.
it would be really shitty if it was on the disc and they announced it the day it was released or, god forbid, before it even came out.
that and there isn't that much. It isn't like saints row 3 where the game has so much fucking DLC its insane.
BioShock 2's Minerva's Den was also very good DLC
[QUOTE=hexpunK;45320908]You could literally buy a single vehicle as DLC. That's the exact shit people complain about. It isn't a threat to the industry at all because the content isn't required. It will never be a threat to the industry [B]until stuff is very obviously removed from games[/B] to a point that it is near required to buy the content to finish stuff.[/QUOTE]
Already being done, let me introduce you to Kalypso Media, Tropico 4 , and the plantador DLC. Now, I was one of the people who bought and played the game at release, and so found a particularly useful building called the plantation. Now this was 100% useable, it was in the menu and all that jazz. Cue first patch and the building was removed. When people asked why they stated it was "unfinished", ok they will just fix it up and put it back right away right? Nope, months went by and the building did not surface again, so people just forgot about it. Then suddenly "Plandador dlc! Build plantations! increase argicultural output! for [B][I]only[/I][/B] $4.99!"
Yep that's right, they patched out a working part of the game, gave a half assed reason, then sold it as dlc when people forgot about it. Which is a shame, I used to like Kalypso and their Rome series.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;45320807]"I can't wait to shell out 60 dollars for a product of unknown quality!!!"
Yes, it's disgusting.[/QUOTE]
Not if you buy smart, from brands and companies you trust. If you know you're going to enjoy a game and that it's not going to be complete and utter shit ala Guise of the Wolf there is nothing wrong with preordering a game.
ME2 and 3 story DLCs are good.
[QUOTE=bdd458;45321062]Not if you buy smart, from brands and companies you trust. If you know you're going to enjoy a game and that it's not going to be complete and utter shit ala Guise of the Wolf there is nothing wrong with preordering a game.[/QUOTE]
how could you ever know that for certain if you haven't actually played the game yet
[QUOTE=Hat-Wearing Man;45321139]how could you ever know that for certain if you haven't actually played the game yet[/QUOTE]
If you've played previous games in the series or by that developer, you can have a reasonable idea of the final quality of a product.
Well, to be fair since old expansion packs the price of games has gone down, and that's not even counting the inflation. At the same time game production costs has risen dramatically, and I think of DLCs as a way to keep the cost of games down. As long as DLCs are purely cosmetic, or just like a few maps, I'm fine with that. I don't need to buy it, but because a lot of other people do I save money on my initial purchase.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;45318905]10+ hours of new stuff begs for a sequel.[/QUOTE]
Not if you're reusing most assets.
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