[QUOTE=SGTSpartans;38603053]Facepunch up in arms again about circumcision. The mass debate thread was locked.
And in reality, who the fuck cares. The whole " its religiod atakin are rites " is BS, atheists and scientists can do as much harm as religious fanatics ( remember nukes?).[/QUOTE]
I don't see how any of your argument even makes any sense at all to even point out, either, because it doesn't. Plus it's not about religion itself.
that's such an extremist example that that's like saying because the WBC is bad but X group can do as much harm as the WBC, why should anyone care about either?
hell I could even have used nazi's and the USSR as examples
To people saying you don't need the skin, I'd rather have a paper cut on my skin than my head.
According to my parents, I was cut "Because why not".
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Zeos;38603213]According to my parents, I was cut "Because why not".
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
that's the case for a majority of circumcisions
[QUOTE=stupid10er;38602043]jesus christ every time facepunch has the chance to talk about circumcisions, there's always a bitch fest like the first few posts. are you really going to sit there and act like circumcision is a crime against humanity? let me guess, your parents having your dick cut is the reason why everything's gone wrong in your life as well as the reason why no female will come within 20 miles of your genitals?
grow up facepunch[/QUOTE]
Next time, take a minute to at least read the whole title instead of reading just 1/4 of it and assuming bullshit.
[editline]26th November 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;38603043]The argument is that you shouldn't remove a part of the body for no reason.
You don't need your foreskin, true, but it isn't likely to kill you if left alone. That said, there are times which require circumcision, shit, I'm friends with a guy who was cut for medical reasons.
The appendix doesn't do a whole lot, and removing it at birth would remove the risk of death by appendicitis later in life, but we don't perform that operation on newborns because it's not necessary and invasive.
Circumcision as a choice, I have no issues with. It's the equivalent of forcing a child to have one of those lip stretcher things. Sure, there mightn't be any medical concerns with it being put in, but it should be up to the child to make that choice.[/QUOTE]
Actually, the skin is there to protect the tip.
[QUOTE=TH89;38602680]Isn't it possible that would just drive it underground, resulting in more unsafe home circumcisions like this? Something to consider.[/QUOTE]
Kids usually get complete check ups from pediatrists, if some parents did it underground, they wouldn't be able to hide it and would be sentenced.
Doubt anyone would take the risk anymore and would rather wait for the child to turn into a grown-up to pressure him into doing so (that's when free will kicks in)
Circumcision should not be a procedure for children. Parents who force it on their children are cruel and it's something I can never forgive my parents for. You think it's fine? You had it as a child? You don't remember. all you have to do is watch a video of a procedure and you can see how much it puts a child in pain, all for the sake of cleanliness and being "pure" in the eyes of a nonexistant deity.
snp
I'm circumcised and I don't give a fuck. The only butthurt people posting are the ones who are uncircumcised bitching about people who are, it doesn't make any sense.
So how is a circumcision very different than genital mutilation anyway?
[QUOTE=-Get_A_Life-;38601901]Circumcision on kids less than 18 years old should be made a crime.[/QUOTE]
im pretty sure persecuting jews for this should have stopped alongside the romans'
[quote]ridiculous and barbaric religious traditions[/quote]
IMO a house circumcision should be illegal, should only happen in a good hospital.
I don't really think circumcision should be banned though.
[QUOTE=zakedodead;38605036]So how is a circumcision very different than genital mutilation anyway?[/QUOTE]
Maybe, because circumcision can be done for medical reasons as metioned above.
Too bad, mostly it is for other reason.
[QUOTE=Aetna;38604891]I'm circumcised and I don't give a fuck. The only butthurt people posting are the ones who are uncircumcised bitching about people who are, it doesn't make any sense.[/QUOTE]
People are not mad because people are circumcised, they're mad because newly born babies are needlessly circumsized without them (obviously) having any say in it. It should be a personal choice whether you'd want such an alteration - even if you don't have a problem with it (most people don't), it doesn't mean that you shouldn't have had the choice yourself.
When I was a baby I can assure you that I did not give a single fuck when I was circumcised. Plus girls I've been with said that they prefer a circumcised guy.
[QUOTE=Zet;38605346]When I was a baby I can assure you that I did not give a single fuck when I was circumcised. Plus girls I've been with said that they prefer a circumcised guy.[/QUOTE]
Good for you, that has nothing to do with the discussion.
[quote]Mrs Adeleye was paid £100 to do the operation as Goodluck's parents did not know the procedure was available on the NHS.[/quote]
Why on earth is genital mutilation on the NHS? It makes me sick to my stomach.
[QUOTE=Zet;38605346]When I was a baby I can assure you that I did not give a single fuck when I was circumcised. Plus girls I've been with said that they prefer a circumcised guy.[/QUOTE]
I understand this is your defense mechanism kicking in but you not "giving a single fuck" does not mean that this is OK.
[QUOTE=zakedodead;38605377]Good for you, that has nothing to do with the discussion.[/QUOTE]
Maybe you should try reading the entire thread before saying my post has no relevance.
[QUOTE=Zet;38605438]Maybe you should try reading the entire thread before saying my post has no relevance.[/QUOTE]
So just because you don't mind something being done to you as a baby with no control over it, no one else should?
And there are thousands... if not millions of people who are also circumcised simply to not care. I guess people only care if they aren't circumcised or just have fear from hearing of the extremely small cases of it going wrong.
[QUOTE=zakedodead;38605475]So just because you don't mind something being done to you as a baby with no control over it, no one else should?[/QUOTE]
It's easier for people that are cut to accept what happened to them is normal and fine than to accept what their parents did to them is cruel and unnecessary.
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[QUOTE=Moby-;38601897]Once again some ridiculous and barbaric religious tradition takes another life.[/QUOTE]
This post is so stupid I can hardly stand it.
Not saying that I'm for or against circumcision, but it's suppose to be done by TRAINED PROFESSIONALS. You using this as a reason to say it has "taken another life," is idiotic as well. It's like having a heart surgery done at home and the man dies, then saying "That damn heart surgery has taken another life, get rid of it!"
[QUOTE=Zet;38605563]Maybe you should try getting cut, and having sex before you say it's cruel and unnecessary.[/QUOTE]
That is not a valid argument. You make me absolutely sick.
[QUOTE=Zet;38605563]Maybe you should try getting cut, and having sex before you say it's cruel and unnecessary.[/QUOTE]
I personally wouldn't mind being tattoo'd shortly after birth, therefor no one should care.
The same argument can be applied to pretty much any medical practice on children/infants. I've read studies that prove that the majority of children who receive braces were unnecessarily treated. Most of them grew into their teeth as the size of their jaw increased and braces were not required. Who cares if babies are circumcised, it's not hurting them, it's not a "cruel" thing to do as long as they're not in any pain and besides that, it does little to effect their lives down the road apart from preventing medical complications. It's a pretty stupid thing to be upset about. The majority of people in the thread are bringing up religion being the issue as it was originally a religious practice, but it's now widely accepted in the medical world as a common practice and I could care less. It hasn't had any negative effect on my life or the lives of others apart from the poor children that were mutilated by their retarded parents that did not have the facilities to do the procedure correctly.
[QUOTE=The First 11'er;38605612]This post is so stupid I can hardly stand it.
Not saying that I'm for or against circumcision, but it's suppose to be done by TRAINED PROFESSIONALS. You using this as a reason to say it has "taken another life," is idiotic as well. It's like having a heart surgery done at home and the man dies, then saying "That damn heart surgery has taken another life, get rid of it!"[/QUOTE]
I didn't know not conforming to a primitive archaic religious belief was a life or death thing like not getting heart surgery.
-snip- not sure how people can defend circumcision
[QUOTE=zakedodead;38605644]I didn't know not conforming to a primitive archaic religious belief was a life or death thing like not getting heart surgery.[/QUOTE]
I was circumcised and my mother did not do it for religious reasons. Not every situation is religious, either.
I just feel that if the parents choose to have it done, so be it. It's going to be remembered a shit ton more if they leave the decision up to you and it's going to be a bigger mark in your annals.
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