EA on PC: "may become our biggest platform" - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Robber;28550932] Just because your government tells you it's okay doesn't make it any better than pirating. There is literally no difference between buying a used game and pirating it.[/QUOTE] The only reason there is no difference (to you) is because the developers don't get money from used sales. If you bothered to read the rest of the thread, you would see that there is a difference. Are people that have flea markets and garage sales as bad as thieves to you? [QUOTE]If you want to support the developers you must buy it new, if you don't then don't play it.[/QUOTE] You say the same thing to people that want to buy used books, play music loudly, and let other people watch their DVDs at home, right? After all, the creators of those things aren't directly supported, so it must be immoral. There would be so much more waste in the world than there already is if people weren't allowed to sell used products.

Well, good for EA.

What's wrong with Skate 3?

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;28526246]I don't think piracy is bad, and I certainly don't think that having the right to resell your property is bad either.[/QUOTE] its not reselling your property, its been made very clear that buying a disc, you own only the disc and the right to play whats on it. [editline]12th March 2011[/editline] in fact, EA is worse than pirates, they make massive profits and none of it goes to EA or even the game studio. its sickening.

This is all great and awesome, but why the sudden change, it seems a lot of major games studios and publishers are doing this?

[QUOTE=Hullu V3;28540929]Baaaaaw, I'm a dumbass who doesn't realise that I'm getting fucked in the rear when I buy a game for 60$. Seriously, no game is worth that much money.[/QUOTE] Apparently Perfect Dark was worth 120USD in 2001.

I doubt they will really make as much money on the computer platform because sports games aren't as good on the computer.

[QUOTE=certified;28515261]Let me rephrase: EA charges roughly $15USD to retail stores as wholesale. The retail stores markup 400% bringing the retail price to $60USD. You buy at retail at that price. Then STEAM came along. You would pay at wholesale prices (EX: $15USD) for games. Retail stores found out when HL2 (Requiring STEAM) came out. They bitched that this "limited competition" and threatened to go to court over it because the lower prices supposedly broke (insert country here)'s anti-trust laws involving limiting competition. Rather than going through the difficult (and long) court process and possibly risking a ruling in favor of the plaintiff (retail stores), download stores such as STEAM raised their prices up to retail. This is why you pay $60 for download games. Not greedy publishers. Greedy/bitching retail stores.[/QUOTE] This is semi bullshit, because.... For console games, $10 charged goes directly to the platform holder (i.e. in xbox's case, it goes to microsoft). PC games don't have this and as such are usually priced at $50 (which is what older console games were charged). Stores make closer to 10-15% of profit from new video game releases, not 400%. EA would never "wholesale" a price of a game to be $15 if it is meant to be full price at retail. It's closer to $45-$50. That's why the used game market is pushed so hard by Gamestop - because used games are 100% pure profit for them, while they make much less from new games. To draw an analogy, I work at a pizza place and we sell Snyder Chips for 99c a bag. When we get the invoice from Snyder on chip orders, we get charged about 75c per bag... which means we only make 24c profit on each bag sold. It's the same thing with video games. Now that said, it IS cheaper to sell through steam since technically you don't have to deal with a retail outlet or publishing materials, which means theoretically publishers could keep the same profit margins by selling new games on steam for cheaper. But remember... steam also charges a percent of the profits for each game sold, and I think it's a lot higher than you might think (maybe up to 30-40% according to some indie devs I believe). And again, why sell something cheaper when people will buy it higher? It's why PC games are now starting to get price-matched with console ones - because people will buy it. You get better profits from selling a game digitally at $60 and having it sell a million copies than selling at say... $40-$45 digitally and having it sell a million. There's also marketing behind it- people percieve things that are more expensive to be worth more value. If you knew nothing about two different games and money wasn't an issue for that purchase, would you initially percieve the "$45" game as being lower quality than the $60 game? Most people would. There's a certain "oooo" factor to new (and newly priced) products.

I love how mere weeks after talking about their PUSH for PC gaming they release Dragon Age II with SecuROM. Real great start guys.

[QUOTE=garrynohome;28589004]I love how mere weeks after talking about their PUSH for PC gaming they release Dragon Age II with SecuROM. Real great start guys.[/QUOTE] Augh, it's not been released with SecuROM. [url]http://news.bigdownload.com/2011/03/12/bioware-dragon-age-2-pc-doesnt-use-securom/[/url]

[QUOTE=Marlamin;28589096]Augh, it's not been released with SecuROM. [url]http://news.bigdownload.com/2011/03/12/bioware-dragon-age-2-pc-doesnt-use-securom/[/url][/QUOTE] Nice job regurgitating info coming from EA and bioware. It has securom registry entries for fucks sake.

[QUOTE=Swilly;28518929] Brutal Legend would've never seen the light of day if weren't for EA. [/QUOTE] I still never figured out why Brutal Legend turned into an RTS at the end. It was like I bought a pickup truck but after driving it for a week all the wheels fell off and it became a boat

[QUOTE=garrynohome;28589159]Nice job regurgitating info coming from EA and bioware. It has securom registry entries for fucks sake.[/QUOTE] The site claiming it has SecuROM (reclaimyourgame) is loosely basing it on the fact there's similarities between both DRMs. The "SecuROM" component being used is a release date checker. Not including anything at all what SecuROM is so infamous for. And the so called registry entries are probably a part of the release date checker, which is harmless. Just because it contains the name SecuROM doesn't mean it's doing the same thing.

[QUOTE=garrynohome;28589004]I love how mere weeks after talking about their PUSH for PC gaming they release Dragon Age II with SecuROM. Real great start guys.[/QUOTE] At least it's SecuROM and not Starforce.

[QUOTE=Tigster;28509456]Anyone I know that calls their sports games shit doesn't even like sports, I'm assuming you've never played one. Are they all good? No. Are they fun with friends or if you LIKE SPORTS? Sure.[/QUOTE] I haven't seen a graphical change at all, each series plays exactly like the same, they shut down their servers after one year, and they slap a $60 price tag on it every year. The only good sports games were developed by EABig. I'm obviously referring to Madden.

[url]http://news.bigdownload.com/2011/03/12/bioware-dragon-age-2-pc-doesnt-use-securom/[/url] [url]http://www.bluesnews.com/s/119644/bioware-on-dragon-age-ii-drm[/url] [url]http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewthread&boardid=1&threadid=119624&id=654799&view=threads[/url] Probably late, but read these before saying it is secuROM, because it's not. [editline]13th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=garrynohome;28589004]I love how mere weeks after talking about their PUSH for PC gaming they release Dragon Age II with SecuROM. Real great start guys.[/QUOTE] It doesn't have actual secuROM, stop jumping on the bandwagon.

[QUOTE=Mattk50;28557065]its not reselling your property, its been made very clear that buying a disc, you own only the disc and the right to play whats on it. [editline]12th March 2011[/editline] in fact, EA is worse than pirates, they make massive profits and none of it goes to EA or even the game studio. its sickening.[/QUOTE] And I have the right to sell that disk.

[QUOTE=garrynohome;28589004]I love how mere weeks after talking about their PUSH for PC gaming they release Dragon Age II with SecuROM. Real great start guys.[/QUOTE] [url]http://store.steampowered.com/app/47900/[/url] What SecuROM? [editline]13th March 2011[/editline] I'm glad we got EA on our side. I think I'll buy Battlefield when I have money. [editline]13th March 2011[/editline] Among other EA games. :smile:

[QUOTE=Catdaemon;28508568]Seriously? I mean come on of all the reasons. who the fuck buys preowned games except people below the poverty line[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.myfacewhen.com/images/3.png[/media] Anywhoo, I think EA is right about the PC being the new biggest platform.