• Transgender student suspended for using wrong bathroom
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[QUOTE=Skelmech;33400038]While I'll admit teenagers are horny, they aren't THAT fucking horny. I don't know about you, but I don't see many teenagers having sex in either bathroom. They're absolutely disgusting places.[/QUOTE] Not talking about sex here, talking about voyeurism. Not only are teens usually horny but some of them are also wide jackasses. Giving dumb assholes the ability to legitimately enter the same bathroom as a chick can only go wrong (filming and harassing notably). There are way too much jackasses out there to think about unisex bathrooms.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;33399564]I really hope this is sarcasm.[/QUOTE] Why? [editline]23rd November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Skelmech;33400038]Dear fucking christ... [B]THERE IS NO *RIGHT* OR *WRONG* WAY TO BE TRANSGENDER, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SUPER FEMININE, OR MASCULINE IF YOU'RE FTM. IT'S ABOUT [I]HOW YOU FEEL[/I], NOT HOW SOCIETY SAYS YOU SHOULD ACT AS A SPECIFIC GENDER.[/B] [B]IT ISN'T BLACK AND WHITE, PEOPLE, IT'S CALLED THE GENDER [I]SPECTRUM[/I] FOR A REASON.[/B] [/QUOTE] Okay fine, but I'm just saying that this transgender guy wouldn't get into trouble for using women's bathroom if he wasn't a half-assed attempt at transgenderizing..
well they have to respect the other students as well. i know i wouldnt be comfortable with it.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;33402061]Okay fine, but I'm just saying that this transgender guy wouldn't get into trouble for using women's bathroom if he wasn't a half-assed attempt at transgenderizing..[/QUOTE] Please just shut up. It's not easy you know.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;33402061]Okay fine, but I'm just saying that this transgender guy wouldn't get into trouble for using women's bathroom if he wasn't a half-assed attempt at transgenderizing..[/QUOTE] Okay smart guy. Look like a girl, right now. Go ahead, try it. Oh, you can't do it? Well too fucking bad, not everyone can. You are suggesting we discriminate based on appearance. I shouldn't even have to explain why that's wrong.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;33402125]You are suggesting we discriminate based on appearance. I shouldn't even have to explain why that's wrong.[/QUOTE] What? It just means a few ugly chicks have to use the dudes' room and a few sparkly dudes have to use the chicks'. That's perfectly reasonable.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;33402061] Okay fine, but I'm just saying that this transgender guy wouldn't get into trouble for using women's bathroom if he wasn't a half-assed attempt at transgenderizing..[/QUOTE] You are MISSING THE FUCKING POINT. there is no such thing as "Half-assed attempt at being transgender" she doesnt have to BE 100% FEMININE TO USE THE GODDMAN FEMALE BATHROOM. Fucking hell, you're kind of ignorance pisses me off so fucking much. [editline]23rd November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Xenocidebot;33402669]What? It just means a few ugly chicks have to use the dudes' room and a few sparkly dudes have to use the chicks'. That's perfectly reasonable.[/QUOTE] Sarcasm, Yay. This thread needed a good joke.
[QUOTE=Metanar;33402118]Please just shut up. It's not easy you know.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't expect it to be easy. Going from a male to a women is quite a process so it's no wonder. That's all the more reason for you, or whoever, to consider it really hard. Or maybe even forget it. You know best by just looking in the mirror. [QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;33402125]Okay smart guy. Look like a girl, right now. Go ahead, try it. Oh, you can't do it? Well too fucking bad, not everyone can. You are suggesting we discriminate based on appearance. I shouldn't even have to explain why that's wrong.[/QUOTE] Uhh no, if I tried to look like a girl the result would be butt-ass ugly. So damn straight not everyone can (or should) go transgender.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;33403293]Uhh no, if I tried to look like a girl the result would be butt-ass ugly. So damn straight not everyone can (or should) go transgender.[/QUOTE] what the fuck are you saying it sounds like "ugly people shouldn't live their lives the way they want to because other people won't like it"
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;33402061] Okay fine, but I'm just saying that this transgender guy wouldn't get into trouble for using women's bathroom if he wasn't a half-assed attempt at transgenderizing..[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Bat-shit;33403293] Uhh no, if I tried to look like a girl the result would be butt-ass ugly. So damn straight not everyone can (or should) go transgender.[/QUOTE] Your ignorance astounds me.
Okay.. I didn't realize you two have a calling for this transgender-type-deal. With all my heart, good luck with that.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;33403293]I wouldn't expect it to be easy. Going from a male to a women is quite a process so it's no wonder. That's all the more reason for you, or whoever, to consider it really hard. Or maybe even forget it. You know best by just looking in the mirror. Uhh no, if I tried to look like a girl the result would be butt-ass ugly. So damn straight not everyone can (or should) go transgender.[/QUOTE] You do realise, that it is not done for how they look, but to make the body match how they feel. If they can look good that is extra, but it is mainly to make thier body match them.
Right.
[QUOTE=Holy-Smokes;33399247]I would first consider a "woman" a woman when she has a womb, I. E. Is actually capable of the biological role of a female.[/QUOTE] Don't even need to say why this is dumb. [QUOTE=Ganerumo;33399594]Because this is a school. Teens go there, and in case you forgot, teens have raging hormones and an awakening sexuality for most of them. Making an unisex bathroom is not a good idea for teens. Adults I don't say, but teens ? nah.[/QUOTE] What, are they gonna fuck? In front of everyone? With twice the people in there, somebody's going to tell an adult. And if they're alone it's no different because if they want to fuck in an empty restroom now they're going to do it, sign or no sign. [QUOTE=Bat-shit;33402061]Why? [editline]23rd November 2011[/editline] Okay fine, but I'm just saying that this transgender guy wouldn't get into trouble for using women's bathroom if he wasn't a half-assed attempt at transgenderizing..[/QUOTE] Um, no. It shouldn't matter how good someone is at it, as long as they're trying. [QUOTE=username69;33402098]well they have to respect the other students as well. i know i wouldnt be comfortable with it.[/QUOTE] How we feel is much more important than how they feel because while they feel mildly uncomfortable, we can feel severely depressed about this. [QUOTE=Bat-shit;33403293]I wouldn't expect it to be easy. Going from a male to a women is quite a process so it's no wonder. That's all the more reason for you, or whoever, to consider it really hard. Or maybe even forget it. You know best by just looking in the mirror. Uhh no, if I tried to look like a girl the result would be butt-ass ugly. So damn straight not everyone can (or should) go transgender.[/QUOTE] Oh so you're saying right here that ugly people shouldn't be going transgender? Or people that don't look super feminine? Who the fuck would even decree who's feminine enough? What, is Simon Cowell going to be at the door? Are masculine women not allowed in anymore?
I'm sorry, but if you have a dick, you go to the bathroom where all the other humans where dicks go. If you have a vagina, you go to the bathroom where all the other humans where vaginas go.
[QUOTE=>VLN<;33404607]I'm sorry, but if you have a dick, you go to the bathroom where all the other humans where dicks go. If you have a vagina, you go to the bathroom where all the other humans where vaginas go.[/QUOTE] Not you too, VLN... :c I always liked you.
[QUOTE=>VLN<;33404607]I'm sorry, but if you have a dick, you go to the bathroom where all the other humans where dicks go. If you have a vagina, you go to the bathroom where all the other humans where vaginas go.[/QUOTE] I don't get this gender definition by what sexual organs you have. It does not fucking matter. You are who you want to be and I find it extremely discriminating to deny someone that right.
If you feel more comfortable in the other gender's bathroom you should use it - all I care is if the bathroom I use doesn't have a queue, sometimes being a male is a good thing especially in shopping centres as there's often a high concentration of females occupying so you can get in/out faster. So go to female bathroom if you must but be warned, if you really need to go you should ignore gender.
[QUOTE=Chopstick;33404905]If you feel more comfortable in the other gender's bathroom you should use it - all I care is if the bathroom I use doesn't have a queue, sometimes being a male is a good thing especially in shopping centres as there's often a high concentration of females occupying so you can get in/out faster. So go to female bathroom if you must but be warned, if you really need to go you should ignore gender.[/QUOTE] This isn't about whether you feel comfortable in a bathroom or if there's a queue, but more about how people who have switched genders are denied the right to express themselves as the persons they feel they are. At least, that is how I feel.
[QUOTE=>VLN<;33404607]I'm sorry, but if you have a dick, you go to the bathroom where all the other humans where dicks go. If you have a vagina, you go to the bathroom where all the other humans where vaginas go.[/QUOTE] I have a feeling that if you were born in the early 1900's you'd be saying "I'm sorry, but if you have black skin, you go to the bathroom where all the other blacks go. If you have white skin, you go to where all the white people go!" It's retarded for the same reason.
[QUOTE=Mooe94;33404820]I don't get this gender definition by what sexual organs you have. It does not fucking matter. You are who you want to be and I find it extremely discriminating to deny someone that right.[/QUOTE] Basically, This. <3
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;33403293]I wouldn't expect it to be easy. Going from a male to a women is quite a process so it's no wonder. That's all the more reason for you, or whoever, to consider it really hard. Or maybe even forget it. You know best by just looking in the mirror. Uhh no, if I tried to look like a girl the result would be butt-ass ugly. So damn straight not everyone can (or should) go transgender.[/QUOTE] Oh hey, aren't you that guy from the "Transgender Rights" Mass Debate thread who was an ignorant asshole, and barely even debated? If I remember correctly you said exactly what you did here which didn't contribute to the subject at hand there, nor does it here.
Bat, you need to respect that transpeople go through lots, it's not simply making you look like your gender, it also has mental aspects.
But are the toilets split by gender or sex? I mean men toilets have urinals for a reason, because they are meant to be used with a penis.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;33405976]But are the toilets split by gender or sex? I mean men toilets have urinals for a reason, because they are meant to be used with a penis.[/QUOTE] Male toilets are for people who identify as male, female toilets are for people who identify as female.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;33402061]Okay fine, but I'm just saying that this transgender guy wouldn't get into trouble for using women's bathroom if he wasn't a half-assed attempt at transgenderizing..[/QUOTE] With a post like that you [b]can't[/b] have even figured out how to dress yourself this morning.
Transgender/Gay Rights threads have some of the most condensed stupidity of any threads I have EVER seen.
[QUOTE=Coffee;33406014]Male toilets are for people who identify as male, female toilets are for people who identify as female.[/QUOTE]While that might be true, others might not identify you as such.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;33406155]While that might be true, others might not identify you as such.[/QUOTE] So? They're not going to say anything to them. If someone looks out of the ordinary, you don't question them - that's rude.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;33406155]While that might be true, others might not identify you as such.[/QUOTE] It's one thing to be curious and another thing to be outrageous about it. I'm pretty sure most are just curious and don't really care, but give off a certain offensive vibe when they just stare "strange people" down. That, is understandable. And then we have the outrageous type who just simply dislike people who are different. Fuck them, I say. I will never have respect for someone like that.
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