Donald Trump proposes military parades in Washington DC - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Jordax;51689968]Hey, they can protest peacefully. As in, without rioting. Should be perfectly possible. Or are you already saying that those groups that were planning to protest aren't that peaceful after all?[/QUOTE] He just mad that they can't get away with doing as many assaults and highway blocks on the down low.

Besides why would you want to hold military parades to show it off to other countries? I thought Clinton was meant to be the warhawk?

I wonder what Chris Rock will say when a tank actually rolls down Flatbush Ave now.

I may not like Trump but plenty of other candidates have had military parades, we do them already with the airforce and NG. I might even go far as to say this was an innocent thought from Trump, maybe he just thinks it would look cool and raise morale?

If he's only pitching the idea now, this isn't going to happen. We're two days out from inauguration, there's no fucking way they're going to get everything prepped and rehearsed. Besides, we don't do that crap in this country. We'll have maybe a platoon of joes in dress blues marching in a July 4th parade, or we'll send an MRAP out to a county fair with some recruiters, or a color guard to a sports game. Big column of armored vehicles, à la Soviet Union, fuck no. Closest we have to that would be air shows, and even that's a stretch.

[QUOTE=Tudd;51689963]Again no where does Trump suggest this. Like a jet flying over is fucking awesome, but when he actually suggests we drive exposed nukes on trucks down the Ave then you can call me retarded.[/QUOTE] The US doesn't operate any mobile nuclear missile vehicles so no one will ever call you retarded.

Military parades are to keep the people of that nation afraid of revolt typically. If you can find a way to buy this as all American patriotism then you have performed mental gymnastics I can't do this time

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51689995]The US doesn't operate any mobile nuclear missile vehicles so no one will ever call you retarded.[/QUOTE] Well, not for that reason.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51689995]The US doesn't operate any mobile nuclear missile vehicles so no one will ever call you retarded.[/QUOTE] Ahh, that's a shame.

[QUOTE=evilweazel;51689961]Uh, how? I went to police shows with my school all the time when I was a kid, and I thought crawling through the trucks and mobile command centers was cool as hell. Was I actually living in a police state?[/QUOTE] There's a difference between showcasing your equipment in a museum or w/e and wasting time and money celebrating the fact that you have military strength.

[QUOTE=Lolkork;51689955]Parading military hardware feels like a thing only totalitarian countries do.[/QUOTE] When we think military parades we generally do think of Russia's Victory Day or North Korea and China's posturing, but the western democracies hold them occasionally.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51690002]Military parades are to keep the people of that nation afraid of revolt typically. If you can find a way to buy this as all American patriotism then you have performed mental gymnastics I can't do this time[/QUOTE] The military can't be used against the populace, so using them as a suppression technique is stupid.

[QUOTE=evilweazel;51689961]Uh, how? I went to police shows with my school all the time when I was a kid, and I thought crawling through the trucks and mobile command centers was cool as hell. Was I actually living in a police state?[/QUOTE] Police shows garner trust, education, and interaction between the police, which can be scary to kids upon first impression Military parades are a demonstration of a nation's pride in its offensive capability, and in more totalitarian countries, a demonstration of force by presence to those that would think contrary to the government The latter does not really apply here thanks to the second amendment, though

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51690010]The military can't be used against the populace, so using them as a suppression technique is stupid.[/QUOTE] So if nation wide riots broke out and a state of emergency was declared who would be helping the government in that situation? Genuinely asking

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51690002]Military parades are to keep the people of that nation afraid of revolt typically. If you can find a way to buy this as all American patriotism then you have performed mental gymnastics I can't do this time[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;DmytBdVqvk8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmytBdVqvk8[/video] [editline]18th January 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51690010]The military can't be used against the populace, so using them as a suppression technique is stupid.[/QUOTE] This is bigly ironic given your post history.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;51689978]historically parades and shows of military strength like these remind the peasantry of who's in charge and the overwhelming force they are up against. if you want to do a show of force to other countries it seems strange you would demonstrate in your own cities rather than someplace nearer or dearer to a rival that would drive the message home[/QUOTE] Historically, I don't really think this is what they are used for in the US. Always seen airshows as a way to get people interested/informed on their military, and from they way they're presented, I'm almost positive that's the goal. Not warning the peasants not to try anything. :v: The worst you could say about them and still make sense from some perspective is that they're basically an extravagant recruiting drive.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51690016]So if nation wide riots broke out and a state of emergency was declared who would be helping the government in that situation? Genuinely asking[/QUOTE] The national guard can be used, but the military that's under the federal system (Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force) cannot be deployed on it's own citizens.

Yeah we showed off our tiny military. I don't support that and wouldn't be cool with that personally anyways. In the case of the US and Trump it seems far worse than pictured there. We aren't afraid of losing our rights or being persecuted for fighting the government.

[QUOTE=Lolkork;51689955]Parading military hardware feels like a thing only totalitarian countries do.[/QUOTE] We do it every independence day, and some other occasions. I have to say i would love to see it, just to see if they can out do Russia when it comes to parades. Probably not but still.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;51690023]This is bigly ironic given your post history.[/QUOTE] How so? I've never ever even suggested that it's ever OK for the country to use it's military against it's own people.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51690042]How so? I've never ever even suggested that it's ever OK for the country to use it's military against it's own people.[/QUOTE] You've shown a dogged support for the second amendment and have generally been derisive of government in general, do you really think that if they were willing to crack down on citizens they wouldn't deploy the actual military stateside?

I'm extremely mixed on this. On one hand, I think it'd be cool to go to one and see our current military hardware in active use, as opposed to seeing them sitting in a museum decades later; but on the other, our president-elect wants to show off America's military as a display of power to others, which comes off as very nationalist thing to do.

So what's the argument for him to support saving money and stopping actual necessities of the US military outside(such as NATO) but doesn't mind spending money on rather useless parades for personal gratification?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51690002]Military parades are to keep the people of that nation afraid of revolt typically. If you can find a way to buy this as all American patriotism then you have performed mental gymnastics I can't do this time[/QUOTE] Again, since America isn't a totalitarian regime, it doesn't apply. Have you been to an airshow in the US, or Marine Day? They're more celebration than anything. It gives citizens a chance to see the guys and their tools up close. It's almost universally enjoyed. A guy saying over a loudspeaker saying "Here come the blue angels, look at them do these sick flips, here's how they do it!" Isn't meant to scare anyone, and probably doesn't. :v:

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;51690059]So what's the argument for him to support saving money and stopping actual necessities of the US military outside(such as NATO) but doesn't mind spending money on rather useless parades for personal gratification?[/QUOTE] "It's freaking awesome!"

Who cares?? Who's against having some parades showing our military's might?

[QUOTE=evilweazel;51690063]Again, since America isn't a totalitarian regime, it doesn't apply. A guy saying over a loudspeaker saying "Here come the blue angels, look at them do these sick flips, here's how they do it!" Isn't meant to scare anyone, and probably doesn't.[/QUOTE] Fair enough but I see some differences between an air show for amazements sake versus demonstrating military power to show how grand America is

[QUOTE=RocketSnail;51690065]Who cares?? Who's against having some parades showing our military's might?[/QUOTE] The type of people who believe you shouldn't do helicopters with your dick in public.

[QUOTE=RocketSnail;51690065]Who cares?? Who's against having some parades showing our military's might?[/QUOTE] It's shocking I know, but other opinions exist and are valid

[QUOTE=RocketSnail;51690065]Who cares?? Who's against having some parades showing our military's might?[/QUOTE] Judging from this thread, mostly only Canadians.