• Donald Trump proposes military parades in Washington DC
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Antiquated and superfluous idea, but I get the intent. Social media and the internet has made this kind of public display more or less obsolete for the reasons Trump outlines. I hope this doesn't become a reality.
Not seeing the issue. Not seeing how it's "vulgar" either. Pretty sensational headline though, good job. I do however think that a military parade is more appropriate for their independence day than a presidential inauguration.
[QUOTE=Bertie;51690719]Not seeing the issue. Not seeing how it's "vulgar" either. Pretty sensational headline though, good job. I do however think that a military parade is more appropriate for their independence day than a presidential inauguration.[/QUOTE] Look in sobotniks post history, ctrl+f "Trump", and read the headlines.... It's not exactly new :v:
I get the impression that Trump's idea of a military parade is closer to that of a dictator than anything but I guess we'll see
I find it ironical thzt in such a open minded country as USA, sone people refuse to witness military parades as an act of discipline and honour. Do you even know what it takes to organise a march? What kind of commitment it takes, how much rehearsals needed and general coordination? Do i even need to mention what stage announcers and orchestra gotta pull through. If anything, it's a show of quality and celebration of achievments in duty, not oppression. Not to mention that many army parades commonly present historical reconstructions of gear and tech you would otherwise only see performing in vidya games. Its a grear event worth money spent, but if your "liberty" soo fragile that you see this as a sign of fear projection, shame on you.
[QUOTE=Jund;51690690]it's because letting the government rub one out isn't worth the thousands upon thousands of dollars it'll take to bring a significant amount of armor into a heavily populated street [/QUOTE] But a completely government funded parade in the middle of washington DC is not the only option. Find the right time and place, coordinate with places like museums and then sell tickets to people for attendance. Then you pretty much have Tankfest except much more accessible to the US market which would probably love that sort of thing. I dont think transporting a tank platoon (four tanks) from the nearest place that has them is that expensive, you pretty much load them on some big trucks and drive them over. As for the rest of the armor things like strykers can just drive themselves, and again if it cant you load it on a truck and ship it.
I don't see any issue with this. Military parades aren't exclusive to authoritarian countries. You guys don't have to disagree with everything Trump says just because he's Trump. If military parades are a waste of money then let's get rid of all the airshows from now on too, seeing as how it costs money.
[QUOTE=Jordax;51689968]Hey, they can protest peacefully. As in, without rioting. Should be perfectly possible. Or are you already saying that those groups that were planning to protest aren't that peaceful after all?[/QUOTE] Hey Jordax, read your own posts [QUOTE=Jordax;51689941]On the other hand, this is a very strong persuasion technique to persuade those protesters who were rumored to come out in force to strongly reconsider their earlier babble of willing to start shit during Inauguration Day.[/QUOTE] To "come out in force" means in great strength/large numbers, not necessarily violently. I could very well see "to start shit" as a way to describe a non-violent protest when said description is coming from someone who doesn't like the protest, and when said protest intends to disrupt a presidential inauguration. I don't know if you moved goalposts to squeeze in that jab about Lambeth expecting violence already, or if you legit didn't know your statement didn't necessarily talk about violent demonstrations. But he was completely justified in saying it came off as a bit nefarious
[QUOTE=Blazyd;51690840]If military parades are a waste of money then let's get rid of all the airshows from now on too, seeing as how it costs money.[/QUOTE] Sure, I'd be fine with that happening too. No sense in wasting money and resources on them either.
[QUOTE=Blazyd;51690840]I don't see any issue with this. Military parades aren't exclusive to authoritarian countries. You guys don't have to disagree with everything Trump says just because he's Trump. If military parades are a waste of money then let's get rid of all the airshows from now on too, seeing as how it costs money.[/QUOTE] I'm not opposed to military parades. I just think its unnecessary, and yeah I don't think Trump should be stroking his ego any more than he is already. That being said, if the men and women of the armed forces want to have a parade and it boosts morale, then by all means have the parade. I'd watch it
Let's just only ever spend money on absolutely neccesary shit and never have any cool shit because grr nationalism is bad
[QUOTE=Claxx;51691050]Let's just only ever spend money on absolutely neccesary shit and never have any cool shit because grr nationalism is bad[/QUOTE] This but unironically.
France has been doing military parades for a long ass while, I don't see the problem with it.
[QUOTE]great cheerleader for the country[/QUOTE] someone just finished a high school us gov course
I think the delusion in SH is out of the charts. Parades are a proud military tradition since forever, let the soldiers get some glory. I think some people here will lieterally never stop bitching about Trump, even if the situation doesn't warrant it.
[QUOTE=KillerJaguar;51690053]I'm extremely mixed on this. On one hand, I think it'd be cool to go to one and see our current military hardware in active use, as opposed to seeing them sitting in a museum decades later; but on the other, our president-elect wants to show off America's military as a display of power to others, which comes off as very nationalist thing to do.[/QUOTE] It's a lot simpler than that. Trump is deeply, deeply insecure. The entire Trump brand is proof of it, the gaudy faux-opulence of the thing. Every word out of his mouth reinforces that fact, every whiny tweet on social media. This is yet more overcompensation - He wants to make the military put on a big show in an attempt to make his inauguration more memorable than that of other presidents. His penis must be microscopic.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51691140]It's a lot simpler than that. Trump is deeply, deeply insecure. His entire Trump brand is proof of it. Every word out of his mouth reinforces that fact, every whiny tweet on social media. This is yet more overcompensation - He wants to make the military put on a big show in an attempt to make his inauguration more memorable than that of other presidents. His penis must be microscopic.[/QUOTE] How does a man look at a military parade and automatically think of dicks Can you take one second in your life to think of anything else but your raging penis envy Like I'm sorry but I am actually amazed at the fact you jumped ship from big tanks to small dicks.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51691173]How does a man look at a military parade and automatically think of dicks Can you take one second in your life to think of anything else but your raging penis envy Like I'm sorry but I am actually amazed at the fact you jumped ship from big tanks to small dicks.[/QUOTE] Well, what else would he be overcompensating for? I've never seen a grown man more insecure than Donald Trump. This guy became the next US President and still feels the need to show off.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51691177]Well, what else would he be overcompensating for? I've never seen a grown man more insecure than Donald Trump.[/QUOTE] You do realize that military parades are [I]not[/I] about overcompensating oneself, right ? Like unless you're talking about NK which doesn't even do parades anymore and just straight up praise the leader himself, but this is not one of those. Not by any considerable margin.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51691191]You do realize that military parades are [I]not[/I] about overcompensating oneself, right ? Like unless you're talking about NK which doesn't even do parades anymore and just straight up praise the leader himself, but this is not one of those. Not by any considerable margin.[/QUOTE] For anyone else? I'd buy that. For Donald J. Trump, most insecure man on the planet, to want to have military parades across the entire country at his inauguration? I'm pretty sure that nobody with two brain cells to rub together is in any doubt as to why. Don't worry, you needn't be offended on his behalf.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51691191]You do realize that military parades are [I]not[/I] about overcompensating oneself, right ? Like unless you're talking about NK which doesn't even do parades anymore and just straight up praise the leader himself, but this is not one of those. Not by any considerable margin.[/QUOTE] for a normal person we could agree, for donald it's just one more thing to stroke his ego
[QUOTE=Araknid;51690678][media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSpqvhVbVH4[/media] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmMnTHokLQo[/media] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f2zSmSI1jk[/media] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmytBdVqvk8[/media] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EOy92uTjJg[/media] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG0e2MXaPXE[/media] Look at these evil, putin-type countries holding their evil parades that serve the purpose of reminding the people who to be scared of! Fucking come on guys. Parades can definitely be a tool of totalitarian regimes but it doesn't instantly mean nazi/communist type shit.[/QUOTE] Holy fuck, you just made me have a emotional collapse. Look at how they are telling their citizens, "DON'T FUCK WITH US. STAY IN THE EU." I mean seriously, poor Belgium citizens. They just have to stand there and take it./s
How long till Trump wants to march giant pictures of his face in the parades?
[QUOTE=archangel125;51691209]For anyone else? I'd buy that. For Donald J. Trump, most insecure man on the planet, to want to have military parades across the entire country at his inauguration? I'm pretty sure that nobody with two brain cells to rub together is in any doubt as to why. Don't worry, you needn't be offended on his behalf.[/QUOTE] I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. But I start packing my bags when he shows up wearing 80 medals on his chest.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;51690059]So what's the argument for him to support saving money and stopping actual necessities of the US military outside(such as NATO) but doesn't mind spending money on rather useless parades for personal gratification?[/QUOTE] I guess there is no argument. He wants to show how great of a presidential cheerleader he is by showing off the military, how more egotistical can you get, it's not even about the military, it's about himself.
I'm glad to see the armchair psychologists of Facepunch unite once again
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51691280]I'm glad to see the armchair psychologists of Facepunch unite once again[/QUOTE] Always a pleasure.
we spend 500 billion a year on our military, wheres my money going if I dont get to see a tank every 4th of July?
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51691280]I'm glad to see the armchair psychologists of Facepunch unite once again[/QUOTE] is this "you're just an armchair ________" thing considered a shitpost yet or not because if I can just call everyone I disagree with that and get away with it, might as well
[QUOTE=ThurnisHaley;51691303]we spend 500 billion a year on our military, wheres my money going if I dont get to see a tank every 4th of July?[/QUOTE] Can't tell if you're half joking or not, but towards having an effective military [editline]18th January 2017[/editline] combat effective, not parade effective
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