Donald Trump proposes military parades in Washington DC
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I think that context is bigly important when it comes to the use of military parades. For something like an independence day, I see no issue as it's just showing respect for the military and its heritage. For something like a presidential inauguration it sets some pretty concerning flags off on how our leader views and presents himself.
I love military parades, especially with hell march music lol
I don't know.
It's just that when I think of military parades, I don't think of America
I'm noticing that like 90% of the posts in here are (rightfully) shitting on 10% of the posts that 2 or 3 people made involving how parades are just to incite fear into citizens (they're not lol.
I don't have an issue with military parades unless they're organized with shit intent like Trump is doing.
Quote from Trump:
[quote]“Being a great president has to do with a lot of things, but one of them is being a great cheerleader for the country,” Trump said. “And we’re going to show the people as we build up our military, we’re going to display our military.
“That military may come marching down Pennsylvania Avenue. That military may be flying over New York City and Washington, D.C., for parades. I mean, we’re going to be showing our military,” he added.[/quote]
[editline]18th January 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;51691305]is this "you're just an armchair ________" thing considered a shitpost yet or not
because if I can just call everyone I disagree with that and get away with it, might as well[/QUOTE]
shhh you're an armchair logical human being
[QUOTE=ThurnisHaley;51691303]we spend 500 billion a year on our military, wheres my money going if I dont get to see a tank every 4th of July?[/QUOTE]
Go to DC and watch the 3rd Infantry Regiment. They do lots of hooah shit like that, sometimes they even play dress-up and pretend it's 1776:
[t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/U.S._Soldiers_with_the_U.S._Army_3rd_Infantry_Regiment_(The_Old_Guard)_march_in_formation_during_the_presidential_inauguration_parade_in_Washington,_D.C_130121-A-GH914-023.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;51691305]is this "you're just an armchair ________" thing considered a shitpost yet or not
because if I can just call everyone I disagree with that and get away with it, might as well[/QUOTE]
When you make claims as wild as "Trump has a small penis because he wants a military parade" and you try to justify it with half-assed psychology then you're literally being an armchair psychologist.
It's not even a matter of disagreement or not, I don't doubt that Trump wants to have a parade to show off the military (as is and has been the goal of military parades since their very inception), but claiming it is to compensate for his micro-penis or that it all somehow orbits around his ego is fucking stupid, an insult to everyone's intelligence and an insulting simplification of both military parades and politics in general.
And if we're going to play finger-pointing and smartass "your fallacy" cards, let me introduce you to the [url=https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy]fallacy-fallacy[/url], in which you disregard a point altogether just because it involved a fallacy.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;51691514]Go to DC and watch the 3rd Infantry Regiment. They do lots of hooah shit like that, sometimes they even play dress-up and pretend it's 1776:
[t]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/U.S._Soldiers_with_the_U.S._Army_3rd_Infantry_Regiment_(The_Old_Guard)_march_in_formation_during_the_presidential_inauguration_parade_in_Washington,_D.C_130121-A-GH914-023.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
That's ok, but I want a tank.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51691828]When you make claims as wild as "Trump has a small penis because he wants a military parade" and you try to justify it with half-assed psychology then you're literally being an armchair psychologist.
It's not even a matter of disagreement or not, I don't doubt that Trump wants to have a parade to show off the military, but claiming it is to compensate for his micro-penis is fucking stupid, an insult to everyone's intelligence and an insulting simplification of both military parades and politics in general.[/QUOTE]
You know the bit about his penis was a tongue-in-cheek joke, right?
No, wait, I don't think you were able to tell. You wouldn't have made such a huge deal out of this if you could.
Tell you what. I'll explain it to you so it sinks in.
Country-wide Military parades to celebrate a certain national day of significance, such as a day commemorating the sacrifices of a country's soldiers, or a celebration of a country's independence, those are merited.
The inauguration of a President, ostensibly a servant of the people, does not merit the same. Especially when that president is the greatest affront to intellectualism the world has seen in the 21st century, and has the temperament of a child.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51691854]You know the bit about his penis was a tongue-in-cheek joke, right?
No, wait, I don't think you were able to tell. You wouldn't have made such a huge deal out of this if you could.
Tell you what. I'll explain it to you so it sinks in.
Country-wide Military parades to celebrate a certain national day of significance, such as a day commemorating a military operation that resulted in great loss of life, or a country's independence, those are merited.
The inauguration of a President, ostensibly a servant of the people, does not merit the same. Especially when that president is the greatest affront to intellectualism the world has seen in the 21st century, and has the temperament of a child.[/QUOTE]
Nowhere in the article does it even say he wants a military parade at his inauguration though?
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51691828]When you make claims as wild as "Trump has a small penis because he wants a military parade" and you try to justify it with half-assed psychology then you're literally being an armchair psychologist.
It's not even a matter of disagreement or not, I don't doubt that Trump wants to have a parade to show off the military (as is and has been the goal of military parades since their very inception), but claiming it is to compensate for his micro-penis or that it all somehow orbits around his ego is fucking stupid, an insult to everyone's intelligence and an insulting simplification of both military parades and politics in general.
And if we're going to play finger-pointing and smartass "your fallacy" cards, let me introduce you to the [url=https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy]fallacy-fallacy[/url], in which you disregard a point altogether just because it involved a fallacy.[/QUOTE]
Quote me where I said "Trump" and "Penis" in the same sentence, my dude
[QUOTE=Blazyd;51691870]Nowhere in the article does it even say he wants a military parade at his inauguration though?[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but it does. It even links to the article talking about that specific parade.
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trump-inaugural-parade-to-spotlight-military-and-police-units/2016/12/30/b751a42a-cea3-11e6-a747-d03044780a02_story.html?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.c5bf3f977d90[/url]
Unfortunately, I assumed he was talking about this particular parade in the interview, but I see now I was mistaken. This one's apparently much smaller scale, just a march of Armed Forces members.
In which case, I was wrong and the parade at inauguration is nothing out of the ordinary.
Owe you an apology, Ganerumo. I've had an off day and I'm in too combative a mood for my own good, clearly.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51691854]You know the bit about his penis was a tongue-in-cheek joke, right?
No, wait, I don't think you were able to tell. You wouldn't have made such a huge deal out of this if you could. [/QUOTE]
Sarcasm is rather difficult to detect in the written form. I wouldn't put it behind SH to believe the small hand thing being the reason for military parades.
[QUOTE=archangel125;51691884]Sorry, but it does. It even links to the article talking about that specific parade.
[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trump-inaugural-parade-to-spotlight-military-and-police-units/2016/12/30/b751a42a-cea3-11e6-a747-d03044780a02_story.html?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.c5bf3f977d90[/URL][/QUOTE]
Either way, the inauguration of a president isn't even all about the president. It's about celebrating the democratic system and the peaceful transition of power. Doesn't seem too inappropriate for a military parade to be held during a celebration of our country.
[QUOTE=Kecske;51690355]The Bastille Day parade (the one I pictured earlier) cost 3,5 million euros in 2014.
That is half the cost of a single Abrams tank and you could have 45 annual parades with the cost of a single 185-bed hospital, calculating with a very economical dollar/bed ratio.[/QUOTE]
The way I see it, if they can afford to wave their dick around like that but not aid their veterans (talking about the US here), then I don't even know what the fuck to think anymore.
[editline]18th January 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Jund;51690690]it's because letting the government rub one out isn't worth the thousands upon thousands of dollars it'll take to bring a significant amount of armor into a heavily populated street
we don't need it because we don't have to try to make our military look like it's still relevant, and because we aren't a nation which is under the threat of invasion to save the ethnic whoevers
[editline]18th January 2017[/editline]
we don't have to remind anyone that we have a military because i'm pretty sure everyone living here is quite aware of it
not like we have a shortage of enlistments either[/QUOTE]
Not to mention that heavy armor can be murder on the streets, even if they have those rubber pads installed on the tracks.
I honestly would love this kind of thing, seeing where our tax dollars are going would be kinda nice.
Not to mention, seeing aircraft flyovers with tanks rolling in box formation would be just an amazing sight.
Military parades are cool as shit
I'd love to see the Blue Angels get more funding. Same with ESA stuff. Would also not mind seeing a Military Monster Truck style thing, where they show off their tanks n offroad shit. I would have loved that as a kid.
There was one ANZAC day where I completely forgot it was ANZAC day and slept in, only to be awoken by a pretty low flying fighter jet.
Seeing as how I lived near one of the largest air bases in Australia i fucking shit myself and legit thought we were being attacked.
Then I remembered what the fuck was happening and laughed.
It was a good wake up alarm tbh
Just another thread where leftists get in an unnecessary tiffy an show off that they can truly hate everything Trump related despite how petty it is.
What a waste, but its not a sign of a totalitarian regime coming into power like some people say, that's just a crazy level of paranoia.
[QUOTE=ThurnisHaley;51691303]we spend 500 billion a year on our military, wheres my money going if I dont get to see a tank every 4th of July?[/QUOTE]
To be honest? You're paying so I can have all these extra pays I don't need, blow 2k a month of Government money on house rent that a specifically over priced for military to rent, 400 a year for clothes, a fuck ton of paid vacation time, Government Travel Credit cards for 'Offical Government Business' and travel at the tax payers expense. The amount of fuck you money I get paid is hilarious. 60k a year with benefits, State doesn't tax military, a guaranteed retirement at 39, 4 years of paid college (with a fuck ton benefits) that I'm giving to my son because I'll never ise it, and free Tuition Assistance for as long as I'm in. All doing a pretty easy job on a HS diploma. I'm not admitting this stuff to brag, but to make a point. I could just go 'LOL F-35 PROGRAM' but tis the lowest of hanging fruits.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;51689908]
They are cool as fuck but presumably expensive and that money can probably be put to better use even if it's just somewhere else in defense.[/QUOTE]
We have Military parades ALL THE TIME of varying sizes, they're just always much more conservitive than most countries. Even so literally almost everything about the parades is already paid for, Tanks? Paid for. Men? Paid for. Uniforms? We pay for those. Fuel? Likely from a military fuel depot, already paid for and covered by the military fiscal year budget anyway. I'm not saying the parade will be super cheap, but considering everything involved is owned by the Government and mostly already covered under the existing budget it's not particularly costly either. Granted I agree the funding would better be used somewhere else, but it's not really as bad as everyone thinks it is.
[QUOTE=Tudd;51692562]Just another thread where leftists get in an unnecessary tiffy an show off that they can truly hate everything Trump related despite how petty it is.[/QUOTE]
Stop strawmanning, Tudd. There are more concerns in this thread than just "it's what a dictator would do."
[QUOTE=Tudd;51692562]Just another thread where leftists get in an unnecessary tiffy an show off that they can truly hate everything Trump related despite how petty it is.[/QUOTE]
Well if these threads bother you so much, maybe you should try spending some time in the countless threads about his conflicts in of interest, constant self-contradiction, or cronyism for once? Or would that threaten your meme-based worldview?
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