Median net worth for blacks fell 83% to 2,170$ compared to $97,860 for whites in US - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Gundevil;31053867]The most discriminated person in North America is the white male.[/QUOTE] Cease posting. Unplug your computer.

Well there's a surprise

[QUOTE=GunFox;31053588][URL="http://www.cga.ct.gov/2008/rpt/2008-R-0008.htm"]http://www.cga.ct.gov/2008/rpt/2008-R-0008.htm H[/URL]ave fun. Look at the numbers and remember that African Americans are only 11% of the population. Also remember that Whites still remain the overwhelming numerical majority of poor people in the United States. Statistically a poor white man is roughly as likely to commit a crime as a poor black man. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States#Poverty_and_race"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States#Poverty_and_race T[/URL]he system is racist from the bottom to the top. I mean seriously. I would think these numbers were a joke if it wasn't for the fact that I've seen them time and time again, and they come from multiple government mandated surveys.[/QUOTE] All right, I thought about it. So, look at the rates for murder in Connecticut. Blacks are arrested for murder about as much as whites, although they are 11% of the population. That tells me that blacks just commit crimes more often, for whatever reason. Not that racism in the system explains it. Besides the black economic disadvantage, for you to claim "racism" in the system as mainly explaining the difference extends into the somewhat ridiculous. Maybe a white man got off innocent when he wasn't. Maybe a black man got guilty. But in my eyes, it is much more likely that the majority of the murder convictions were not affected by racism. I will say, however, that 117 murders is a very small number to be working with. If we had a greater sample size I'd be more confident.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;31045081]There are plenty of poor and/or homeless white people too you know.[/QUOTE] Easier for a white person to get out of poverty than a black person. Still not easy, but whites don't need to worry about being refused a job because the name on their resume sounds "ethnic" or other bullshit that's still alive and well today

I hate some of those studies.. Just because someone has a college degree doesn't mean they will have a job, doesn't matter the race, so why do studies insist on the percentage of unemployed people who have a college degree, if you want to make a study at least do with concrete data. There are a lot of factors not mentioned in most of those studies that are quite important to make any sort of conclusion. Also, is it racism you don't see as many white people on hip-hop charts as black people? No it isn't, you don't have to have an equal number of people of different races working on a certain area to make it non-racist. One of the biggest problems behind all this is education, if anything is worth investing time and money it's education. The way media portrait the way they should behave isn't helping the situation either..

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;31056108] But in my eyes, it is much more likely that the majority of the murder convictions were not affected by racism.[/QUOTE] poverty causes crime. people who are poor (in this case because of institutional racism) are more likely to commit crimes like murder than people who aren't poor [editline]11th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=bunguer;31056786]I hate some of those studies.. Just because someone has a college degree doesn't mean they will have a job, doesn't matter the race, so why do studies insist on the percentage of unemployed people who have a college degree, if you want to make a study at least do with concrete data. There are a lot of factors not mentioned in most of those studies that are quite important to make any sort of conclusion. Also, is it racism you don't see as many white people on hip-hop charts as black people? No it isn't, you don't have to have an equal number of people of different races working on a certain area to make it non-racist. One of the biggest problems behind all this is education, if anything is worth investing time and money it's education. The way media portrait the way they should behave isn't helping the situation either..[/QUOTE] congrats bro, this post contains nothing of substance despite having 140 words in it

[QUOTE=Ridge;31050001]The white guilt in this thread is mind boggling. You know what's racist? Companies that are more likely to hire minorities as opposed to white males because they get a tax break if a certain percentage of their workforce is X skin color.[/QUOTE] Affirmative action is racist. It has good intentions, but the bottom line is that it's giving preference to one group over another because of skin color, which is completely wrong.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;31056819]poverty causes crime. people who are poor (in this case because of institutional racism) are more likely to commit crimes like murder than people who aren't poor congrats bro, this post contains nothing of substance despite having 140 words in it[/QUOTE] If it isn't worth anything don't reply to it, also it's quite an assumption to say poverty causes crime.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;31056897]Affirmative action is racist. It has good intentions, but the bottom line is that it's giving preference to one group over another because of skin color, which is completely wrong.[/QUOTE] It's actually countering a preference for people with white skin It's only racist if you can show me with statistics that the amount of white people not hired due to affirmative action is greater than the amount of minorities who wouldn't have been hired had the policies not been in place, and going by the discrepancy of races in the workplace I don't think that's the case [editline]11th July 2011[/editline] I'd like to see affirmative action policies abolished as well (level playing field is great, right?) but that would first require an overhaul of the entire system because without affirmative action the playing field is currently not level

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;31053358]Members of poor families are much more likely to become criminals themselves. [B]Members of rich families, not so much.[/B][/QUOTE] [IMG]http://paidcontent.org/images/editorial/g_medium/news-corp.-ceo-rupert-mudoch-m.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE=Wikipedia][B][U]Early life[/U][/B] Keith Rupert Murdoch was born in Melbourne, the only son of Sir Keith Murdoch and Elisabeth Joy (née Greene). At the time, his father was a regional newspaper magnate based in Melbourne, and as a result, [B]the family was wealthy.[/B][/QUOTE]

The answer is clear, if your parents are dumb enough to name you Tyrone, go to court and change your fucking name. This is america god damn it! Then just list yourself as white when you apply to a job. Even if you aren't. Works for me. Those crazy rappers also seem to instill a mindset of "HUSTLE HUSTLE, SELL THOSE DRUGS"

[QUOTE=bunguer;31057004]also it's quite an assumption to say poverty causes crime.[/QUOTE] [url]http://cjr.sagepub.com/content/18/2/182.short[/url] Being poor doesn't make people grow guns out their asses that tell them to shoot people but statistically it's certainly a big HINT HINT WINK WINK LOOK AT ME I'M A PRETTY BIG FACTOR sign in neon fucking lighting.

[QUOTE=Hap;31044255]Full circle as in blacks used to be slaves in the US, and now they basically still are?[/QUOTE] Quick, someone write a rap song about this.

[QUOTE=McSkinny;31058398]Quick, someone write a rap song about this.[/QUOTE] where's th89 when you need him

[QUOTE=Gundevil;31053867]The most discriminated person in North America is the white male. [/QUOTE] *falls off the chair laughing*

[QUOTE=thisispain;31060220]*falls off the chair laughing*[/QUOTE] you guys just don't know how hard white people have it they have to deal with horrible things like which brand of toilet paper they should buy or what color hummer they need to get

[QUOTE=Diet Kane;31060430]you guys just don't know how hard white people have it they have to deal with horrible things like which brand of toilet paper they should buy or what color hummer they need to get[/QUOTE] plus we have to be really vocal about our opinion on ofwgkta and affirmative action. it gets exhausting sometimes. truly that is the new white man's burden

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[QUOTE=thisispain;31060220]*falls off the chair laughing*[/QUOTE] he does have a point, though nowhere near as big as he claims it to be. some people are so afraid of being perceived as racist that they go out of their way to hire minorities now me personally, I don't care what race my employees are. I'll be hiring whoever I think will make me the most money, and that's really how it should be.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;31043829]And they're not able to stop being poor because of racism[/QUOTE] Fucking really man. Really? They're not able to stop being poor because its not easy to stop being poor. Its more complex than just racism. [QUOTE=Zeke129;31056271]Easier for a white person to get out of poverty than a black person. Still not easy, but whites don't need to worry about being refused a job because the name on their resume sounds "ethnic" or other bullshit that's still alive and well today[/QUOTE] There are so many equal opportunity employers. The software company I work at has so many foreigners I wonder if its even an american company (it is). [QUOTE=joes33431;31057512][IMG]http://paidcontent.org/images/editorial/g_medium/news-corp.-ceo-rupert-mudoch-m.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Ugh. He is talking about probability here. He's not saying rich people can't be criminals, they're less likely to be. Its a proven fact. [QUOTE=GunFox;31050858]Because we spend ungodly sums of money arresting them, putting them on trial, and incarcerating them with overwhelming ratios that favor putting Black men in jail. Whites and blacks commit roughly the same amount of crime. African Americans comprise roughly 11% of population of the US. African Americans also account for HALF of all prisoners. HALF. Depending on the study, anywhere from 1 in 4 to 1 in 3 black men will serve prison time in their lifetime in the United States. The judicial system is overwhelmingly racist. How are they supposed to gain any ground when we spend obscene amounts of money fucking them over? How are kids supposed to integrate into society, when society probably put their dad in jail? IT. IS. RACISM. [/quote] Sorry man, but african american and white american crime rates are not the same. If you accept it as fact that being poor increases the likelihood of comiting crime. If you also accept as fact that there are more poor black families than poor white families. Then surely there should be more crime committed by african americans than white americans. That aside, the actual numbers favor that logic.

[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;31062411]he does have a point[/QUOTE] no not really

[QUOTE=thisispain;31062418]no not really[/QUOTE] did you even read the rest of the post or are you really that blind

[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;31062451]did you even read the rest of the post or are you really that blind[/QUOTE] yeah i did read the rest of the post he still doesn't have a point

[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;31062411]he does have a point, though nowhere near as big as he claims it to be. some people are so afraid of being perceived as racist that they go out of their way to hire minorities[/QUOTE] but that accounts for way fewer people than the qualified minorities who aren't hired because of institutional racism [editline]11th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Slight;31062415] They're not able to stop being poor because its not easy to stop being poor. Its more complex than just racism.[/QUOTE] buttttt institutional racism is one of the biggest factors of that

[QUOTE=Slight;31062415] They're not able to stop being poor because its not easy to stop being poor. Its more complex than just racism. [/QUOTE] Not being hired for jobs is a pretty big contributor to being poor.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;31062473] buttttt institutional racism is one of the biggest factors of that[/QUOTE] That is pure speculation. I have yet to see any legitimate studies or numbers that suggest employers are racist when choosing employees. If a black's resume looks better than a white's he'll get picked. [QUOTE=that1dude24;31062563]Not being hired for jobs is a pretty big contributor to being poor.[/QUOTE] How are you so sure racism is why they're not being hired? Getting a job is hard when you're poor and can't afford education.

[QUOTE=Slight;31062577]That is pure speculation. [/QUOTE] so you don't believe institutional racism even exists?

[QUOTE=Slight;31062577]That is pure speculation. I have yet to see any legitimate studies or numbers that suggest employers are racist when choosing employees. If a black's resume looks better than a white's he'll get picked.[/QUOTE] i already posted one in this thread, perhaps if you look you can find it its like a treasure hunt where the treasure is :smith:

[QUOTE=Slight;31062577] How are you so sure racism is why they're not being hired? Getting a job is hard when you're poor and can't afford education.[/QUOTE] [quote]The unemployment rate for [B]black male college graduates[/B] 25 and older in 2009 has been nearly twice that of white male college graduates — 8.4 percent compared with 4.4 percent.[/quote] [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/01/us/01race.html[/url] coupled with [url]http://www.economics.harvard.edu/faculty/mullainathan/files/emilygreg.pdf[/url] coupled with [url]http://www.epi.org/page/-/BriefingPaper288.pdf?nocdn=1[/url] I swear I've used these three sources ten times already.

[QUOTE=Slight;31062415] Sorry man, but african american and white american crime rates are not the same. If you accept it as fact that being poor increases the likelihood of comiting crime. [b][highlight]If you also accept as fact that there are more poor black families than poor white families.[/b][/highlight] Then surely there should be more crime committed by african americans than white americans. That aside, the actual numbers favor that logic.[/QUOTE] AND WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS sorry about the caps, it was actually an accident, but I like how it turned out so I'll leave it