#AUSPOL STRAYA ELECTIONS 2K16 - MALCOLM TURNBULL REMAINS PRIME MINISTER.
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[QUOTE=Evanstr;50633698]What is Kool-aid ?[/QUOTE]
They are referring to [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_the_Kool-Aid"]this.[/URL]
[QUOTE=FlandersNed;50633721]They are referring to [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_the_Kool-Aid"]this.[/URL][/QUOTE]
Liberal won, Same can be said to Labor supporters.
[QUOTE=Evanstr;50633725]Liberal won, Same can be said to Labor supporters.[/QUOTE]
Neither party has 76 seats. Therefore, none of them have won. I know some people like to say "oh so-and-so has won" before it's over because they have a huge, clear majority, but you're just flat-out lying here because there's only a 4 seat difference between Liberal and Labor.
[QUOTE=Evanstr;50633698]What is Kool-aid ?[/QUOTE]
Think of an arsenic laced Zooper Dooper.
Zooper Duper?
[QUOTE=Evanstr;50633725]Liberal won, Same can be said to Labor supporters.[/QUOTE]
hes not telling you that you drunk the koolaid for being a lib supporter. Its because you literally quoted turnbulls speech wholesale and because the minute the liberal party leader called it you declared it a democratic victory - despite the democratic process not being fully enacted yet.
[QUOTE=killerteacup;50633748]hes not telling you that you drunk the koolaid for being a lib supporter. Its because you literally quoted turnbulls speech wholesale and because the minute the liberal party leader called it you declared it a democratic victory - despite the democratic process not being fully enacted yet.[/QUOTE]
Liberal has won, Look at the stats closely.
I still don't understand why anyone wants the libs. They've done a fucking terrible job as government and their policies consist of JOBS ????? STABILITY.
[QUOTE=CertainDOOM;50633771]I still don't understand why anyone wants the libs. They've done a fucking terrible job as government and their policies consist of JOBS ????? STABILITY.[/QUOTE]
What has labor done that is any better? What Is liberal going to do bad?
[QUOTE=Evanstr;50633761]Liberal has won, Look at the stats closely.[/QUOTE]
I see this
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/OmPc8Kj.png[/IMG]
[editline]3rd July 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Evanstr;50633775]What has labor done that is any better? What Is liberal going to do bad?[/QUOTE]
keep us on shitty copper nbn (businesses need fiber!), lower penalty rates, lower corporate tax (because we need less money ye)
then again there are probably bigger issues i don't know about
[QUOTE=Evanstr;50633775]What has labor done that is any better? What Is liberal going to do bad?[/QUOTE]
Keep our head above the water after 2008 thanks to Swan.
Oh, and Medicare.
[QUOTE=343N;50633778]I see this
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/OmPc8Kj.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Look closely at each seat, Look at the prior owner of the seat, look at the votes. Its easy to call.
[editline]3rd July 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Bradyns;50633783]Keep our head above the water after 2008 thanks to Swan.
Oh, and Medicare.[/QUOTE]
Stuff that obviously liberal could never do(sarcasm obviously)
[QUOTE=Evanstr;50633128]Liberal gets in and cannot do anything because it does not want to negotiate with minorities[B](which it shouldn't have to)
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Or Labor gets in by sucking the dick of minor parties.[/QUOTE]
Lol, what?
[QUOTE=Evanstr;50633775]What has labor done that is any better? What Is liberal going to do bad?[/QUOTE]
insisting on shitty copper infrastructure, dismantling medicare, doing all they can to NOT meet renewable energy targets, taking money out of education, awful immigration policies (granted labor aren't much better here but libs are worse) etc
watch any friendly jordies video
[QUOTE=CertainDOOM;50633797]insisting on shitty copper infrastructure, dismantling medicare, doing all they can to NOT meet renewable energy targets, taking money out of education, awful immigration policies (granted labor aren't much better here but libs are worse) etc
watch any friendly jordies video[/QUOTE]
Dude, Anything in relation to Medicare is complete and utter lies, When getting your sources of information on politics you should actually look for proof other than a guys say so.
Please link me to a credible source which proves that liberal is going to dismantle medicare and Liberal is not taking money out of education it is just not going to spend as much as labor said it will.
friendly jordies is a trained model, not a proper source.
[QUOTE=CertainDOOM;50633797]insisting on shitty copper infrastructure, dismantling medicare, doing all they can to NOT meet renewable energy targets, taking money out of education, awful immigration policies (granted labor aren't much better here but libs are worse) etc
watch any friendly jordies video[/QUOTE]
friendly jordies speaks a bunch of bullshit but you're mostly on the point
bill shorten himself called my grandmother up at 3 in the morning, breathed heavily and whispered "liberals want to destroy medicare" and hung up
he did this 5 nights in a row before my grandfather chased a nude, sweaty bill shorten off his property for throwing rocks at their windows
[QUOTE=Evanstr;50633804]Please link me to a credible source which proves that liberal is going to dismantle medicare[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.budget.gov.au/[/url]
[QUOTE=CertainDOOM;50633771]I still don't understand why anyone wants the libs. They've done a fucking terrible job as government and their policies consist of JOBS ????? STABILITY.[/QUOTE]
I myself preferenced the Coalition in front of Labor because I was absolutely appalled at Labor's vicious and, in some cases (Medicare privatisation claim) absolutely dishonest campaign. I am not going to support scare campaigning. The only ads I saw by the Liberals were of Turnbull in front of a camera telling his plan for if he returned to government, whereas almost every ad I've seen by Labor were all 'don't vote for Malcolm because he'll do this and that' with scary background sounds, and no actual Labor policy.
There were other matters for me such as I believe Labor's negative gearing plans would harm state stamp duty revenues, which would inevitably lead to an increase in GST base or rate, especially as the Premiers are already calling for GST reform right now.
[QUOTE=Bradyns;50633820][url]http://www.budget.gov.au/[/url][/QUOTE]
Yes Please take the time and find the proof for me if you are going to claim lies.
[QUOTE=Evanstr;50633825]Yes Please take the time and find the proof for me if you are going to claim lies.[/QUOTE]
mate he literally has a taskforce to look into the privatisation of certain sectors
i even posted a news article here once about the LNP doing it
this isn't some dodgy labor scare tactic, this is the real fucking deal
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50633838]mate he literally has a taskforce to look into the privatisation of certain sectors
i even posted a news article here once about the LNP doing it
this isn't some dodgy labor scare tactic, this is the real fucking deal[/QUOTE]
Please can you give me proper proof, if you link very vague links to budgets then ill link you to vague reports of how labors budgeting will make us 16 billion more dollars in defciet in the next 4 years.
I want you to really sit down and show us the actual proof of your claims about medicare cuts/privatisation.
[url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1505225&highlight=[/url]
this is the article i posted
[QUOTE=Evanstr;50633825]Yes Please take the time and find the proof for me if you are going to claim lies.[/QUOTE]
[quote]From 1 July 2016, 24 Medicare Benefits Schedule (MBS) items will no longer be available under the following MBS categories:
[B]- diagnostic imaging
- ear, nose and throat surgery
- gastroenterology
- obstetrics, and
- thoracic medicine[/B]
[URL]https://www.humanservices.gov.au/corporate/budget/budget-2016-17/health-matters-and-health-professionals/healthier-medicare-removing-obsolete-services-medicare-benefits-schedule[/URL][/quote]
[quote]From 1 July 2016, external clients will be charged for the data provided by Health using a single process and costing structure.
[URL]https://www.humanservices.gov.au/corporate/budget/budget-2016-17/health-matters-and-health-professionals/medicare-benefits-schedule-and-pharmaceutical-benefits-scheme-data[/URL][/quote]
[quote]From 1 November 2016, new and amended listings to the MBS will include:
- restricting co-claiming of exploration or ligation of great artery or great vein services with varicose vein services
- restricting claiming of dermis, dermo fat or fascia graft services with spinal surgery services
- changes to 3 services will be amended and 28 new services will be introduced with improved item descriptors
- restricting 3 hip arthroscopy services to the management of non-femoroacetabular impingement (FAI)
- streamlining allergy patch testing services, and creating new services to allow testing of a larger number of allergens at one time, and
- replacing existing circumcision services with 2 new services based on the type of anaesthesia used, instead of patient age or health practitioner speciality
[URL]https://www.humanservices.gov.au/corporate/budget/budget-2016-17/health-matters-and-health-professionals/medicare-benefits-schedule-new-and-amended-listings[/URL][/quote]
[quote]From 1 July 2018, indexation of all Medicare Benefits Schedule fees will be suspended for a further 24 months.
[URL="https://www.humanservices.gov.au/corporate/budget/budget-2016-17/health-matters-and-health-professionals/medicare-benefits-schedule-pause-indexation"]
https://www.humanservices.gov.au/corporate/budget/budget-2016-17/health-matters-and-health-professionals/medicare-benefits-schedule-pause-indexation[/URL]
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[quote]To all of the above - Information update: this Budget measure is subject to the passage of legislation.[/quote]
The bolded is the most important... I mean, who needs head, gut, general diagnostic imaging, genitalia, or lung imaging right?
As well as the associated surgery categories.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50633863][url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1505225&highlight=[/url]
this is the article i posted[/QUOTE]
That was about privatising the payment system, not Medicare itself. Even the Australian Medical Association said Labor's scare campaign was full of shit.
lets also add the fact that bulk billing doctors have a freeze which has made many start charging for visits
fantastic for rural communities, why people keep voting the NATs when they keep fucking them over with shit like this ill never comprehend
[QUOTE=CertainDOOM;50633797]
insisting on shitty copper infrastructure, dismantling medicare, doing all they can to NOT meet renewable energy targets, taking money out of education, awful immigration policies (granted labor aren't much better here but libs are worse) etc
watch any friendly jordies video[/QUOTE]
Can we please stop using friendlyjordies? I'm almost 100% certain he's astroturf.
Also, take it from someone who works in the energy industry: renewable energy targets both won't work and will just drive up electricity prices further damaging what every manufacturing sector we have left. Until the nation is willing to hop on board with a dispatchable CO2 free power sources ([sp]nuclear[/sp]) it's a waste of money.
And how are liberal worse with immigrants? They're both terrible and both have advocated for island deportation.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50633863][url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1505225&highlight=[/url]
this is the article i posted[/QUOTE]
Smh is a very very labor bias news group, again the article is Zero credible proof. Literally all that it is saying will happen is transaction systems for medicare may be outsourced..
Do you have sources of none speculation and instead actual proof ?
[QUOTE=Evanstr;50633880]Smh is a very very labor bias news group, again the article is Zero credible proof. Literally all that it is saying will happen is transaction systems for medicare may be outsourced..
Do you have sources of none speculation and instead actual proof ?[/QUOTE]
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People have fucking given you proof, can't you read?
At this point he should give us proof that we're lying/uncredible
[QUOTE=Araknid;50633938]PROOF
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People have fucking given you proof, can't you read?[/QUOTE]
I did read it, Obviously you have not... Its not proof.
[editline]3rd July 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=343N;50633949]At this point he should give us proof that we're lying/uncredible[/QUOTE]
I have confidence in my own party, I do not need to scare other people to get them to vote for me.
You are innocent until proven guilty, so.. Proof?
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