#AUSPOL STRAYA ELECTIONS 2K16 - MALCOLM TURNBULL REMAINS PRIME MINISTER. - Polidicks

what are differences between a minority and majority government?

[QUOTE=343N;50633263]what are differences between a minority and majority government?[/QUOTE] A majority government can pass bills without help from independents, greens or labour. A minority govt needs to make deals and work with other parties in order to get things done in parliament

[QUOTE=343N;50633263]what are differences between a minority and majority government?[/QUOTE] Minority government uses minority parties ones with 1-3 seats to get power, and they require those parties to get pretty much all bills though, Which basically means the minority of australia gets a big say which is not really fair.

[QUOTE=FlandersNed;50633239]Can't wait for my electorate, safest non-labour seat in Australia and has been non-labour since federation :pudge:[/QUOTE] What seat?

[QUOTE=Evanstr;50633276]Minority government uses minority parties ones with 1-3 seats to get power, and they require those parties to get pretty much all bills though, Which basically means the minority of australia gets a big say which is not really fair.[/QUOTE] Yes it is fair, it's how the australian people voted Government should then work with the rest of the house and actually cooperate with other parties to get things done.

[QUOTE=killerteacup;50633281]Yes it is fair, it's how the australian people voted Government should then work with the rest of the house and actually cooperate with other parties to get things done.[/QUOTE] Not getting a majority vote and then doing a deal with a party that may only Represent 0.5% of the Australian public and then gets to weigh heavily in on every single bill that gets passed is not really a fair representation of the Australian public. You really cannot tell me that a tiny tiny minority of australia should have power over the government for the entire term, The party should just suck it up and make another election happen so we can have a majority government.

[QUOTE=Evanstr;50633289]Not getting a majority vote and then doing a deal with a party that may only Represent 0.5% of the Australian public and then gets to weigh heavily in on every single bill that gets passed is not really a fair representation of the Australian public.[/QUOTE] Not getting a majority vote is a failure of the major party to convince the majority of australians it deserves government. I understand what you're saying but you're making an implicit assumption that the government needs to seek help from only fringe independents for literally every deal. This isn't true. The government should have an impetus to review the decisions it is making to make them acceptable for the majority of the house. During the Gillard government, despite a minority government they were able to pass a huge amount of bills because they worked with all sides of the house, and were able to do a lot for Australia - for better or for worse depends on your opinion.

[IMG]http://puu.sh/pNFlZ/27ade647f3.png[/IMG] WA Don't let us down...

[QUOTE=killerteacup;50633291]Not getting a majority vote is a failure of the major party to convince the majority of australians it deserves government. I understand what you're saying but you're making an implicit assumption that the government needs to seek help from only fringe independents for literally every deal. This isn't true. The government should have an impetus to review the decisions it is making to make them acceptable for the majority of the house. During the Gillard government, despite a minority government they were able to pass a huge amount of bills because they worked with all sides of the house, and were able to do a lot for Australia - for better or for worse depends on your opinion.[/QUOTE] Still the minority parties get way to much influence, While about 40% of the rest of the countries views get thrown out the door.

So, if this is the start of a Minority Government, does that mean Medicare is safe?

[QUOTE=Xonax;50633297]So, if this is the start of a Minority Government, does that mean Medicare is safe?[/QUOTE] yes, Xenophon and Greens are for Medicare, no clue about independents [editline]2nd July 2016[/editline] If Shorten makes a deal with the Greens, it might be possible that dental care could be covered by medicare

[QUOTE=Bradyns;50633278]What seat?[/QUOTE] Wentworth, and it turns out that Liberal won by a landslide as usual. Not surprising to see why: [t]http://i.imgur.com/6bGRePj.png[/t]

[QUOTE=Evanstr;50633293]Still the minority parties get way to much influence, While about 40% of the rest of the countries views get thrown out the door.[/QUOTE] Not true. I might point out first that 40% is not a majority, despite it being the liberal's primary vote. If 40% of the country is all that the government has then it should [I]not[/I] have a full mandate to enact every bill it wants to pass without consultation of the rest of the house. You're also basically saying that without a mandate the government will not be able to do anything they want and that's bad. It's not bad. With an election as close as this then you have to accept that the combined vote of the people who didn't vote for the government is probably more than the vote of those did vote for the government. 13% of the population have voted for independents. That's much, much more than 0.5%. And that's not even including the greens. With the greens, we're saying that independents and greens have 20% of the national vote. That's a fifth of the country. Of course they have a right to the 5 seats they do have.

[QUOTE=Xonax;50633297]So, if this is the start of a Minority Government, does that mean Medicare is safe?[/QUOTE] Medicare is not getting its funds cut, it is absolute bullshit that has been made up by labor, Great another fooled. Seriously, Link me to actual proof.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;50633301] If Shorten makes a deal with the Greens, it might be possible that dental care could be covered by medicare[/QUOTE] If that does happen, that means Braces wouldn't cost an arm and a leg right?

[QUOTE=Xonax;50633319]If that does happen, that means Braces wouldn't cost an arm and a leg right?[/QUOTE] hopefully [QUOTE=Evanstr;50633313]Medicare is not getting its funds cut, it is absolute bullshit that has been made up by labor, Great another fooled.[/QUOTE] Medicare had its funding cut during the 2014 budget and was having some aspects privatised, the scare campaign was overblown but the liberals attitude towards medicare is concerning to say the least

It looks like the guardian live web results page is wayyy behind, and the ABC stream is on time.

63 - 63 on Guardian?! :hairpull:

God I hate Barnaby Joyce, I don't understand why people vote for him.

Yeah, this is where liberals start to pull ahead. Was always gonna happen [editline]2nd July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Whomobile;50633329]God I hate Barnaby Joyce, I don't understand why people vote for him.[/QUOTE] I hate his guts but I respect him - very good politician, just doesnt put the interests of the people first

Lemme get this straight, if Malcolm/Liberal wins, there will still be a Minority Government, and if Bill/Labor Wins, there will still be a Minority Government? Is that right? Also how long till we find out who is in.

[QUOTE=Bradyns;50633327]63 - 63 on Guardian?! :hairpull:[/QUOTE] Actual result right now is L/NP 74, ALP 68, GRN 1, OTH 4.

[QUOTE=Whomobile;50633329]God I hate Barnaby Joyce, I don't understand why people vote for him.[/QUOTE] Well, regional folk in regional areas that aren't as developed as say, Bendigo, Geelong that are gradually becoming some what urban still rely on the policies the Nationals promote. Not to forget, in regards to social issues, the social issues that are in the cities aren't much of a problem out there when most of them are conservative.

[QUOTE=Xonax;50633336]Lemme get this straight, if Malcolm/Liberal wins, there will still be a Minority Government, and if Bill/Labor Wins, there will still be a Minority Government? Is that right? Also how long till we find out who is in.[/QUOTE] Yes, thats essentially it. You will have to wait until pre-polling and postal votes. We will not find out concretely tonight but it will be a minority government

[QUOTE=killerteacup;50633339]Yes, thats essentially it. You will have to wait until pre-polling and postal votes. We will not find out concretely tonight but it will be a minority vote[/QUOTE] At least I can sleep easily knowing Medicare will be safe. I just wish they fixed Centrelink, they are making it impossible to get on the Disability Payment.

I think we can all agree though, Thank fuck the palmar party is obliterated

It is possible that neither party will be able to convince the governor general that they have the numbers, in which case there will have to be another election. To which I say: Fuck that.

I think Morrison is very concerned now. It's basically complete denial now, especially now that when you have a political commentator now claiming that we may be heading to another election, I think that, that may be it for the Liberal National coalition. People are gonna hate having to go back to the polls again.

Why would we head to another Election?

[QUOTE=Xonax;50633369]Why would we head to another Election?[/QUOTE] If neither party can form government on their seats, we will go back for another election