Breaking: Boston Marathon Bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev sentenced to death - Polidicks

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;47731592]Brainwashed people like this are a loss at rehabilitating. I haven't seen any cases of that being successfully done.[/QUOTE] And even if he could be (he can't), why should we? Why should someone like this who takes the lives of others and ruins the lives of many others still be allowed to return to an ordinary existence again afterwards and enjoy a normal life-- especially when the circumstances are so grotesque and brutal-- when their victims can't? It isn't justifiably fair to the victims for what was done to them. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it until this kind of mentality dies out: you should not feel anything for people like this except cold indifference (which has a satisfaction to it in its own way). This reminds me of how people complained over us celebrating the death of Osama bin Laden; "he was a human being too and you shouldn't feel happy he's dead!" How childishly naive and sheltered must a person be to have this mindset? It's ridiculous. [QUOTE=kweh;47731648]It's what I mean. He probably doesn't gives a single fuck if he dies or lives now. His mission is completed, and death to him is at best a small price for the pursuit of the fucked up ideas that made him do it.[/QUOTE] Okay? That's nice to know? It still isn't going to stop us from dragging him into a room and euthanizing him like a sick animal. It isn't about what he wants or doesn't want, and it isn't about his feelings. It's about what we want and what we see fit to do wth him in accordance with our laws and our views. He has been found guilty, and he will be executed, and that will be the end of the matter and the end of him. And life will go on much as it did before, but with a slight bit more satisfaction knowing this man was punished for what he did, and that he's dead and gone forever.

[QUOTE=woolio1;47731713]The death penalty isn't about revenge. It's about removing a potentially dangerous person from society in a way that doesn't impose a $400k tax burden per year. Prisoners and life sentences are expensive. With a death penalty, it's just over. You don't have to worry about recidivism, or escape, or rehabilitation. It's a practical solution to a complex problem. Is it the best thing? Probably not. But it's cheap, and easy, and safe.[/QUOTE] From a number-crunching side, I guess that would be the best idea... Just getting it done with and never bothering anyone with it ever again.

I don't get why dying is worse than life in prison. Being locked up forever sounds worse than dying. I mean, I guess just "being alive" is great, experiencing being conscious and feeling, but i don't know.

[QUOTE=Govna;47731721]It isn't about what he wants or doesn't want, and it isn't about his feelings. It's about what we want and what we see fit to do wth him in accordance with our laws and our views. He has been found guilty, and he will be executed, and that will be the end of the matter and the end of him. And life will go on much as it did before, but with a slight bit more satisfaction knowing this man was punished for what he did, and that he's dead and gone forever.[/QUOTE] I'm not too familiar with the US judicial system, but won't his defense team delay his execution for years & possibly decades by appeals or other legal tactics?

Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.

Oh what a shame a terrorist is gonna die abloobloo

[QUOTE=woolio1;47731713]The death penalty isn't about revenge. It's about removing a potentially dangerous person from society in a way that doesn't impose a $400k tax burden per year. Prisoners and life sentences are expensive. With a death penalty, it's just over. You don't have to worry about recidivism, or escape, or rehabilitation. It's a practical solution to a complex problem. Is it the best thing? Probably not. But it's cheap, and easy, and safe.[/QUOTE] It's not cheap

[QUOTE=woolio1;47731713]The death penalty isn't about revenge. It's about removing a potentially dangerous person from society in a way that doesn't impose a $400k tax burden per year. Prisoners and life sentences are expensive. With a death penalty, it's just over. You don't have to worry about recidivism, or escape, or rehabilitation. It's a practical solution to a complex problem. Is it the best thing? Probably not. But it's cheap, and easy, and safe.[/QUOTE] Where are you getting this from? The death penalty is actually really expensive. [url]http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty[/url] [url]http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2014/05/01/considering-the-death-penalty-your-tax-dollars-at-work/[/url] [url]http://deathpenalty.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=001000[/url] [url]http://www.nbcrightnow.com/story/15519792/what-costs-more-the-death-penalty-or-life-in-prison[/url]

Should have been life, he's going to make a much more prominent martyr if he gets executed. Then again his brother was already shot so I guess the martyrdom quotas have already been fulfilled.

[QUOTE=Flapjacks;47731750]I'm not too familiar with the US judicial system, but won't his defense team delay his execution for years & possibly decades by appeals or other legal tactics?[/QUOTE] No. The nice thing about high-profile cases like this is that they're usually expedited. We don't waste time with these kinds of people. McVeigh was executed only six years after the Oklahoma City Bombing. [editline]15th May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Ganerumo;47731785]Should have been life, he's going to make a much more prominent martyr if he gets executed. Then again his brother was already shot so I guess the martyrdom quotas have already been fulfilled.[/QUOTE] He won't be a martyr. Martyrdom involves dying gloriously in battle, not being dragged off as an inglorious fugitive and later executed behind closed doors. Not a very inspiring way to die.

Awesome, I hope they air in on PPV.

Honestly, the American prison system is more of a punishment than death

My say: Even if you put him in prison, I'm sure someone there will kill him. Either way, I feel justice has been served.

No sympathy what so ever tbh The pictures from that bombing were tough to look at.

[QUOTE=matt000024;47731781]Where are you getting this from? The death penalty is actually really expensive. [URL]http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty[/URL] [URL]http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2014/05/01/considering-the-death-penalty-your-tax-dollars-at-work/[/URL] [URL]http://deathpenalty.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=001000[/URL] [URL]http://www.nbcrightnow.com/story/15519792/what-costs-more-the-death-penalty-or-life-in-prison[/URL][/QUOTE] It evens out at about 25 years, which is the standard "life sentence" with parole. Assuming he wouldn't have parole, he's got about 40-50 years in prison. The court costs for the death penalty would be cheaper in this case.

Life in prison would have been better, it would still have basically been a death sentence and he wouldn't become a martyr.

wow so now i can say i personally knew a terrorist AND someone who got sentenced to death. TBH I usually support the death penalty for capital crimes but I think this will make him a martyr more than anything, it will also keep his name in the media for years to come as he goes through appeals. I'm also sure he would have felt remorse at [i]some point[/i] because it seems he didn't really believe in the cause as much as his brother, so he'd spend the rest of his time in prison full of regret.

[QUOTE=Carne;47731455]Even for what he did this makes me feel very uncomfortable. [/QUOTE] Don't worry mate, as far as you don't go blow up any marathons you won't be sentenced to death. This is more just than anything else could possibly be, really.

[QUOTE=woolio1;47731834]It evens out at about 25 years, which is the standard "life sentence" with parole. Assuming he wouldn't have parole, he's got about 40-50 years in prison. The court costs for the death penalty would be cheaper in this case.[/QUOTE] That's not true, read the articles I posted.

[QUOTE=woolio1;47731834]It evens out at about 25 years, which is the standard "life sentence" with parole. Assuming he wouldn't have parole, he's got about 40-50 years in prison. The court costs for the death penalty would be cheaper in this case.[/QUOTE] The death penalty is way more expensive than life in prison, it's not even close. Once the death penalty verdict has been read it opens up the unlimited number of appeals that are granted to the defendant. And you know what that means? More trials and more money going to waste and the execution date keeps getting pushed further and further back because more evidence has to be gathered for each appeal case. Should have just slapped on a few life sentences and been done with it

may or may not deserve it but it's still not an effective or efficient practice

The problem I have with this verdict is where it took place. Massachusetts outlawed the death penalty. The crime was committed in Massachusetts. The crime was tried in Massachusetts. The crime was ultimately against the people of Boston. Regardless of the federal nature of the case, I feel that the verdict ought to respect what has been the law in Massachusetts for the past 31 years — a law based on what the people of Massachusetts feel is moral.

One one hand, good riddance, I'm not really crying or anything. On the other hand, I'm not okay with death sentence. It's something that shouldn't be used IMO.

[QUOTE=Carne;47731455]Even for what he did this makes me feel very uncomfortable. Edit: I guess I see nothing to cheer about. It's another human being killed. It's revenge instead of justice. That's what I think about the death penalty in general.[/QUOTE] I agree. Eye for an eye is good in principle, but in situations like this it's worrying to see so many people want this verdict out of what appears to be purely bloodlust. Nothing about justice, just a knee-jerk reaction.

Hey guys, killing somebody and martyring him doesn't give his organization superpowers.

Can't believe it's been over or close to 2 years since that happened.

[QUOTE=proch;47731918]Hey guys, killing somebody and martyring him doesn't give his organization superpowers.[/QUOTE] Doesn't bring back any lives too, doesn't even make families of victims and survivors feel better. Doesn't do anything really. It's just killing somebody.

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;47731592]Brainwashed people like this are a loss at rehabilitating. I haven't seen any cases of that being successfully done.[/QUOTE] I dunno, like... all of the ex-Nazis ever? Pretty certain there were at least a few kids who were brainwashed by the Nazis who [I]didn't[/I] turn into vicious, racist neo-Nazis eg Pope Benedict XVI, pretty much every German child born between 1920 and 1940? Obviously not quite the same case as Dzhokhar was radicalised as a teenager, but I wouldn't say it's [I]impossible[/I] for him to be rehabilitated. But the American government has made their decision; that the legal nightmare of a Death Row inmate will be cheaper than trying to rehabilitate him.

[QUOTE=Glitchman;47731749]I don't get why dying is worse than life in prison. Being locked up forever sounds worse than dying. I mean, I guess just "being alive" is great, experiencing being conscious and feeling, but i don't know.[/QUOTE] life in prison means he becomes a leech of tax dollars where people are paying money to keep him living even in sorrow. I'd MUCH rather wipe him off the planet and move on. There's a line between someone who made a bad choice and has the potential to change, and then someone who undeniably fully intentionally hurt innocent lives and then continued evading punishment until his final chance. He's filth and he should just be wiped away so we can focus on people worth giving said attention.

[QUOTE=matt000024;47731781]Where are you getting this from? The death penalty is actually really expensive. [url]http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty[/url] [url]http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2014/05/01/considering-the-death-penalty-your-tax-dollars-at-work/[/url] [url]http://deathpenalty.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=001000[/url] [url]http://www.nbcrightnow.com/story/15519792/what-costs-more-the-death-penalty-or-life-in-prison[/url][/QUOTE] Thank you for this, it drives me up a wall when people misunderstand the death penalty. My favorite example: New Jersey has spend 250 million dollars in 30 years without actually killing anyone. You know why? Because it takes years of appeals in court before you actually get to the execution. In this case, we're sure we have the right guy, but I don't think there should be an exception. That just make Tsarnaev "special." Why don't we just lock him up and forget about him? He should be treated like a nobody. And it's not like their going to take him into the back of the court house and execute him. The families of the people he hurt aren't going to get closure for a long time, and are going to have to deal with the appeal process when they should be trying to move on with their lives and pull themselves back together. Sure, right this moment we can sit back and feel like we got the bad guy, and then in a couple years once we forget about all this, we find he was finally executed. Yay for us. I feel like my tax dollars went to a worthy cause. The death penalty will just satisfy the bloodlust of the general population, but we're not helping the families and the people affected move on with their lives.