Breaking: Boston Marathon Bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev sentenced to death - Polidicks

[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;47733602]What is the definition of "mass destruction" if a pressure cooker fits the bill?[/QUOTE] Within civilian law explosive devices count as weapons of mass destruction.

[QUOTE=iAmaNewb;47733148]Even the Nazis that orchestrated a 6 million genocide?[/QUOTE] No. I don't agree with the death penalty in any case. The only time killing is acceptable is to prevent someone else from being killed/seriously harmed. I don't see how the Nazis are even relevant to a fucked up kid who decided to go on a killing spree though.

[QUOTE=jordguitar;47731472]He is being sentenced to death by lethal injection. What if the supreme court this summer says that lethal injection is illegal? What are we going to do to kill him then?[/QUOTE] a bomb

good serves the fucker right

[QUOTE=AK'z;47731528]I was thinking he was sentenced in Saudi Arabia or something... I have no idea why death is somehow his payment when we're all going to die anyway. Ending his life just means to me that he gets off scot-free in my honest opinion. Yet thousands of prisoners with lesser charges have to go through this: [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9d/Ozposter.jpg[/img] which imo is the real deal to punishment.[/QUOTE] This attitude is sicker than being pro death penalty. You're arguing in favor of torture.

[QUOTE=matt000024;47733910]No. I don't agree with the death penalty in any case. The only time killing is acceptable is to prevent someone else from being killed/seriously harmed. I don't see how the Nazis are even relevant to a fucked up kid who decided to go on a killing spree though.[/QUOTE] We are talking about the death penalty here. I don't see how are you saying that the members of a genocidal regime's political party who are responsible for the orchestrated death of 6 million Jews shouldn't be given the death sentence. Let's rehabilitate Hitler then, I'm sure that'll work.

Just leaves a bitter feeling.

[QUOTE=markfu;47732429]I never really understand when people just spout this phrase. I'm not arguing for or against it here, but do you know for a fact that none of the survivors or family members want the death penalty for him or are you just spouting a buzz phrase to suit what you believe? And "doesn't do anything" isn't true since killing the guy is technically "doing something," same as letting him rot in prison is "doing something." Whether or not its a good thing is up for debate.[/QUOTE] No, I don't know for a fact that killing the offender doesn't make [b]any[/b] of the survivors and victims' family members feel better. However, most civilized countries have gotten rid of the capital punishment and people are doing fine over there, and by fine I mean - not any worse, or else there would be reasons to consider bringing it back. And I don't get what you were getting at with the second part. Obviously killing somebody [b]is[/b] doing something, however, it (killing someone) [b]doesn't do[/b] anything, which is to say it's highly debatable whether the execution has any kind of meaningful lasting consequences beyond the fact that the guy is dead.

Good. Simple as that. He deserves it.

Good. If you can't value life enough like this guy, you don't deserve to have it.

I'm not crying about it

[QUOTE=iAmaNewb;47734080]We are talking about the death penalty here. I don't see how are you saying that the members of a genocidal regime's political party who are responsible for the orchestrated death of 6 million Jews shouldn't be given the death sentence. Let's rehabilitate Hitler then, I'm sure that'll work.[/QUOTE] Laws and morals still apply to even the worst members of society.

[QUOTE=Carne;47731455]Even for what he did this makes me feel very uncomfortable. Edit: I guess I see nothing to cheer about. It's another human being killed. It's revenge instead of justice. That's what I think about the death penalty in general.[/QUOTE] You're right. That's too easy. We should torture him till he dies.

I don't think he should be put death. Not that he's dirtbag who deserves it, but rather I don't think the state should have the authority to execute someone. I think the state can be better than that.

[QUOTE=lope;47731452][url]http://www.wbur.org/2015/01/05/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-charges[/url][/QUOTE] A bomb is legally considered a firearm?

[QUOTE=masterbateman;47733541]He's a young guy. He has the rest of his life to reform in jail, do some good for the people around him. How is this the ideal outcome?[/QUOTE] While I don't agree he should die, do you really think any amount of reform would fix what he's done? Hell it doesn't really matter if it actually did work or not, he'd be in prison for the rest of his life either way.

[QUOTE=jonu67;47735022]While I don't agree he should die, do you really think any amount of reform would fix what he's done? Hell it doesn't really matter if it actually did work or not, he'd be in prison for the rest of his life either way.[/QUOTE] According to a few reports of individuals that knew him I wouldn't say that he's beyond any sort of "reform". While what he did was an awful, awful crime, I don't support the death penalty so I don't support this verdict.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;47735031]According to a few reports of individuals that knew him I wouldn't say that he's beyond any sort of "reform". While what he did was an awful, awful crime, I don't support the death penalty so I don't support this verdict.[/QUOTE] That's the problem though, even if this death penalty wasn't a thing, it doesn't matter if he was reformed or not, his life sentence's would still be a thing, he'd still rot away in an American prison for what he did. And while the would be platitudes of him saying he regret what he did would be nice, it doesn't change the fact he actually did it. Him wasting away his life in prison at least for me would make for an adequate punishment for what he perpetrated, reform or not.

[QUOTE=Paraprose;47732929]It kind of scares me how quickly Facepunch can go from "no death penalty at all for any reason" to "GOOD RIDDANCE" revenge boner mode. Not saying either side is 100% correct, just an observation.[/QUOTE] Maybe it isn't the same users. Personally I haven't engaged in the debate because obviously some people have pretty strong feelings about this guy, and my usual "We can't be 100% sure that it is him" doesn't work because it's honestly a fact of science with this guy. Still don't think he (or anyone) should get the death penalty, but honestly I couldn't care less whether this guy lives or dies.

[QUOTE=murple;47733971]good serves the fucker right[/QUOTE] If you support murder then why do you want to kill a fellow murderer?

[QUOTE=gudman;47731936]Doesn't bring back any lives too, doesn't even make families of victims and survivors feel better. Doesn't do anything really. It's just killing somebody.[/QUOTE] Actually, it does bring justice.

[QUOTE=MIPS;47731517]Good job making a martyr out of him.[/QUOTE] As a Muslim, I disagree. He's not a Martyr. He's nothing more or less than a criminal who killed innocent people. And as Allah stated; Killing ONE innocent human is like killing the whole humanity. I /DO/ condone people to do some REAL research based on their OWN instead of listening to others.

[QUOTE=Skeggr;47735275]As a Muslim, I disagree. He's not a Martyr. He's nothing more or less than a criminal who killed innocent people. And as Allah stated; Killing ONE innocent human is like killing the whole humanity. I /DO/ condone people to do some REAL research based on their OWN instead of listening to others.[/QUOTE] The people who would consider this guy and his brother martyrs aren't exactly the kind of people who did their research on Islam either.

Too many uber crazy liberals in this thread. The man deserves to die just put a bullet in his head. If you liberals want him alive you so bad you should have to pay for it with your own money and not subject the rest of the nation who support his death to paying for him to remain alive.

[QUOTE=Arrows;47735309]Too many uber crazy liberals in this thread. The man deserves to die just put a bullet in his head. If you liberals want him alive you so bad you should have to pay for it with your own money and not subject the rest of the nation who support his death to paying for him to remain alive.[/QUOTE] Yeah crazy liberals not wanting to murder people!!!

[QUOTE=Arrows;47735309]Too many uber crazy liberals in this thread. The man deserves to die just put a bullet in his head. If you liberals want him alive you so bad you should have to pay for it with your own money and not subject the rest of the nation who support his death to paying for him to remain alive.[/QUOTE] How is being against the death penalty "uber crazy liberal" ? And you do realize that in the US it costs far more to execute a prisoner than to keep him in a cell, right ?

[QUOTE=Arrows;47735309]Too many uber crazy liberals in this thread. The man deserves to die just put a bullet in his head. If you liberals want him alive you so bad you should have to pay for it with your own money and not subject the rest of the nation who support his death to paying for him to remain alive.[/QUOTE] Conversely, if you conservatives want him dead you should pay even more for him to stay in the death penalty system!

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;47735305]The people who would consider this guy and his brother martyrs aren't exactly the kind of people who did their research on Islam either.[/QUOTE] Never said they did. Whoever considers this guy and his brother a martyr are nothing but brain-washed monkeys.

The only people worse than those saying "he deserves it" are those saying "he deserves worse".

Good idea, make him a martyr.