• Doctor Who plans 'epic and vast' 50th anniversary episode
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[QUOTE=wulfe8857;39980771]From my observation of poor writing and writers, there seems to be a correlation between the two when "writers" is "Steven Moffat."[/QUOTE] Yeah, he has a few brilliant episodes (wasn't Blink one of his?) but he needs to give up full time writing, he's not great at story arcs.
Just get all of the still living doctors and make one big-ass episode where there's a giant space-time rift and they all find out about each other. And then heisenberg shows up and becomes the new doctor for reasons.
[QUOTE=Kingy_ME;39981411]Yeah, he has a few brilliant episodes (wasn't Blink one of his?) but he needs to give up full time writing, he's not great at story arcs.[/QUOTE] His last few series have been all over the place, his attempt to have continuity in each series has just been awful.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;39982267]His last few series have been all over the place, his attempt to have continuity in each series has just been awful.[/QUOTE] The Weeping Angels seem to change a lot each time there is a new episode involving them. E.g they now [sp]Take over statues/actually are statues, instead of just something that disguises itself themselves as a statue[/sp]
[QUOTE=nightlord;39983163]The Weeping Angels seem to change a lot each time there is a new episode involving them. E.g they now [sp]Take over statues/actually are statues, instead of just something that disguises itself themselves as a statue[/sp][/QUOTE] I know it's doctor who and it shouldn't be taken too seriously, but is Moffat really going to tell me that no one in New York bar the doctors gang were looking at that statue of liberty walking through the city?
[QUOTE=nightlord;39983163]The Weeping Angels seem to change a lot each time there is a new episode involving them. E.g they now [sp]Take over statues/actually are statues, instead of just something that disguises itself themselves as a statue[/sp][/QUOTE] They should have kept them in one episode and left it at that. Like the Slenderman, they got milked to hell and back to the point where they turned into a joke.
[QUOTE=Aphtonites;39983343]They should have kept them in one episode and left it at that. Like the Slenderman, they got milked to hell and back to the point where they aren't really that scary anymore.[/QUOTE] He did the same to the silence as well. I loved the first episodes they were in, it was a really cool concept, but then they started appearing all over the place and just got boring and over done.
I think there's too much nostalgia and rose-tinted glasses going on here. It's not like Doctor Who suddenly got childish. When Tennant left and Smith came in we as an audience naturally became more critical and relaxed less when watching it. Lots of us wanted it to be awful. Lots of us wanted to form some sort of opinion. Doctor Who is as childish as it's ever been. Every series has only ever had 1 or 2 dark stories. The rest are either REALLY silly or just adventures with silly moments. Chris had Dalek, but he also had farting aliens disguised as fat people and a catchphrase spouting MP. David had Blink, but he also had Peter Kay in a green fat suit making head jokes and ELO. Matt has The Doctors Wife, but also has James Corden looking after a baby. That's how Doctor Who has always worked. Silly, silly, dark, silly, epic, silly, epic, epic, silly, dark. It jumps between these at will. As for Weeping Angels cropping up alot, they're a recurring villain. Star Trek had Klingons, Borg and Romulans. Who has Angels, Daleks and Cybermen. Their abilities haven't changed since [I]Flesh & Stone[/I]. In Blink it was explained those Angels were weak and didn't have access to their full power so had diminished abilities. Soon as we saw that episode we all [I]knew[/I] they'd be back eventually with more powers. Especially after Moff took over. Moffat I prefer as a writer, than a show runner. But I've enjoyed the show anyway. Especially Series 5 and 7. 6 I thought was trying too fucking hard.
[QUOTE=Dan2593;39983716]I think there's too much nostalgia and rose-tinted glasses going on here. It's not like Doctor Who suddenly got childish. When Tennant left and Smith came in we as an audience naturally became more critical and relaxed less when watching it. Lots of us wanted it to be awful. Lots of us wanted to form some sort of opinion. Doctor Who is as childish as it's ever been. Every series has only ever had 1 or 2 dark stories. The rest are either REALLY silly or just adventures with silly moments. Chris had Dalek, but he also had farting aliens disguised as fat people and a catchphrase spouting MP. David had Blink, but he also had Peter Kay in a green fat suit making head jokes and ELO. Matt has The Doctors Wife, but also has James Corden looking after a baby. That's how Doctor Who has always worked. Silly, silly, dark, silly, epic, silly, epic, epic, silly, dark. It jumps between these at will. As for Weeping Angels cropping up alot, they're a recurring villain. Star Trek had Klingons, Borg and Romulans. Who has Angels, Daleks and Cybermen. Their abilities haven't changed since [I]Flesh & Stone[/I]. In Blink it was explained those Angels were weak and didn't have access to their full power so had diminished abilities. Soon as we saw that episode we all [I]knew[/I] they'd be back eventually with more powers. Especially after Moff took over. Moffat I prefer as a writer, than a show runner. But I've enjoyed the show anyway. Especially Series 5 and 7. 6 I thought was trying too fucking hard.[/QUOTE] I've watched a lot of the older episodes, reboot and originals, and I can safely say that while they had their silly bits, they were never any where near as quirky as the current stuff, Moffat has made the doctor overly weird to the point were he seems like he's high on something, saying and doing overly weird stuff. As for recurring enemies, the angels do not fit being a recurring enemy, at least not how they've gone about it thus far. they had potential but they really ruined it and they have ceased to be actually scary in any way and are just dull at this point. the Daleks and Cybermen can pass as recurring enemies due to their nature, sophisticated aliens who desire universal domination, thus they have a reason to keep coming back. The angels just eat people through time stuff, they don't really do anything else. This isn't to say that previous series haven't had their stupid episodes, I personally hated that Peter Kay episode, despite generally being a fan of that series along with the slitheen being a bit meh, but not too awful. Personally I've always preferred the darker episodes, even when I was a kid, which is why I generally find myself drawn to the Eccleston episodes the most, with early Tennant coming in a very close second. Moffat has had some good episodes, but he just doesn't seem to suit writing a whole series, he was much better at one offs.
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